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Thread: E39 Touring Rear Subframe Bushing replacement

  1. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by stolnikas View Post
    Hello, maybe someone has bushing housing inner and outer diameters in cm? Or bushing diameters? Marker in red arrows.
    Anyone help with this please? Doing mine next week and going to cobble together a tool. Haven't received the parts yet otherwise I'd measure them myself!

    Thank in advance

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    I think some guys in the uk rent the right tool. I think you should look into it, if you have the time.
    99 540iT, Jet Black on Black. Dinan mods ( CAI, MAF, TB, Brace, Stage 4 engine and tranny software ). 00 750iL, Jet Black on Black. MPars, Sport Steering wheel, alpina replica lip. 05 Mini S, Dinan CAI, Strut brace, UUC exhaust.

  3. #128
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    Having the right tool makes all the difference in the world. Find one to rent and you'll be happy you did.
    "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti"

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    Used the Franklin tool from Jase007 yesterday, took me a little under four hours including jacking up the car. What a super easy job with the right tooling! Can't wait for the test drive and I am shooting myself for waiting so long to do this job. I really hope the banging over bumps is resolved like everyone indicates. I will post a follow up after my test drive

  5. #130
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    I'd like to pick up that tool next.

  6. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToastelStruder View Post
    I'd like to pick up that tool next.
    Here ya go!
    http://www.eaceuroparts.com/catalog/product/477
    "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti"

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    Like so many that have added to this thread, it couldn't have been easier with the right tool (thanks Jared). It took me about 3 hours once the car was on stands. If u can change your brakes you can do this job.

    I would suggest disconnecting the abs and pad wear sensors from the subframe as the wires pulled tighter than I liked. Not at the connection points but the mid-way holders. I also removed the rear most muffler hanger (13mm nut) to allow the exhaust to move down. Be mindful of the exhaust at the cross member forward of the differential. I have a 528it manual with base suspension and had no difficulty with space on the driver side.

    Thank you for this thread, it was a big help!
    Last edited by mnot; 01-20-2013 at 10:20 PM.

  8. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by mnot View Post
    Like so many that have added to this thread, it couldn't have been easier with the right tool (thanks Jared). It took me about 3 hours once the car was on stands. If u can change your brakes you can do this job.

    I would suggest disconnecting the abs and pad wear sensors from the subframe as the wires pulled tighter than I liked. Not at the connection points but the mid-way holders. I also removed the rear most muffler hanger (13mm nut) to allow the exhaust to move down. Be mindful of the exhaust at the cross member forward of the differential. I have a 528it manual with base suspension and had no difficulty with space on the driver side.

    Thank you for this thread, it was a big help!
    Glad to help. Good job!
    "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti"

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    Do I need a wheel alignment after replacing the bushings?

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    who has the tool now? need to do mines

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    Quote Originally Posted by russlan44 View Post
    who has the tool now? need to do mines
    http://www.eaceuroparts.com/catalog/product/477
    "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti"

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    Looking for the parts and tool filled out the contact info on the web site two times and have not had a response, is it still available?
    1989 735il, 94 325ic,99 Touring Wagon.

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    The car completely changed after the new SFB's were installed. Rear is less loose, no noise going over speed bumps and overall handling is improved. The front struts are next and some new parts in the front end are still needed. But overall it's worth it at 100k.
    1989 735il, 94 325ic,99 Touring Wagon.

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    I have been sending messages and calling to get a refund on my tool rental it was returned on October 26 is this company still in business? They do not return calls or emails any one else have this problem The next call is to Visa!
    1989 735il, 94 325ic,99 Touring Wagon.

  15. #140
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    You should make sure to check your communication. Not only did we send instructions and return status a while ago, we responded to you yesterday. We also just responded again forwarding yesterday's email.

    My guess is your spam box is full of our communications.

  16. #141
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    Did this to my 530dA Touring about a week ago. Took me about 3,5hours with coffee break.

    Huge difference:

    - Nasty clunk is gone when hitting bumps
    - Heavy vibration when going 62mph+ is gone
    - Rear is a lot stiffer

    I bought my own tool from Germany and it cost 100USD.
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    Old rides: E46 316Ti, E53 X5, E38 728iA, E39 528iA, E46 318i Touring, E38 730dA, E36 316i, E36 328iA Cabrio, E38 728i, E38 750i, E36/3 320i, E36 318i, E39 530dA Touring, E38 740i, E39 528iA, E34 525iA, E32 750iL, E32 730iL, E34/2 525TDS,
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  17. #142
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    who has the tool? Id love to take care of this. just did the front, now I am itching to do the back.

  18. #143
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    Quote Originally Posted by scott99540it View Post
    who has the tool? Id love to take care of this. just did the front, now I am itching to do the back.
    I bought a great tool from Harbor Freight for around $50 with many sizes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott99540it View Post
    who has the tool? Id love to take care of this. just did the front, now I am itching to do the back.
    I also bought my tool from Harbor Freight. The tool is normally around $100 but they always run sales and with one of their super coupons (which aren't that hard to locate) that gave me 20% off on top of the sale price I also picked up the tool for around $50 and it will be used with other projects of mine in the future. I will say this though, before purchasing the tool sit in the store and open the cases up that they come in. You will see that they aren't the best of quality and many of them are not very true. Buying a random one would be fine but if you want it to be close to straight and true as possible, go through them. No one will care and it will make for better projects down the road

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5class View Post
    I bought a great tool from Harbor Freight for around $50 with many sizes.
    you have the part number? I'll probably order one.

  21. #146
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    I just finished this touring subframe project.
    With the correct tool, the job was satisfying!

    Just a few notes, as for the rear angle indicators, make sure
    you unbolt the sensor from the subframe. I thought if I disconnect
    a link thats it.
    NOT TRUE: its a wire length issue. i caught my mistake before i ripped the wires out.
    I am adding to the tool kit. its a combo wrench that has a ratchet
    on the box end. instead of changing from short to deep sockets, just use the wrench.
    I found this to be the easiest.
    Just a BIG TEXAS shout out to Jason!
    Thank you for letting me use this great expensive tool.
    I will always own a BMW.

  22. #147
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    Glad things went smoothly with the repair.

    Subframe bushing replacement was probably the single best improvement I've made to my touring in 7 tears of ownership ... running neck and neck with replacing the dual-vanos seals.

    Cheers!
    Jason

    '90 325iX 5M, '00 528iT 5M Sport (mfg. 5/1999)
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  23. #148
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    so are these stock things really fluid filled? I am getting some weird vibrations that go away at 75-80 mph and some hard bangs when hitting bumps on the poopy mn 94 freeway.

  24. #149
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    Nick:

    You can jack up your touring in the rear, support with jack stands, support rear diff with jack and drop one of the sub frame bolts to inspect the condition of your bushings. Would probably take a total of 15 minutes.

    Cheers.
    Jason

    '90 325iX 5M, '00 528iT 5M Sport (mfg. 5/1999)
    BMW CCA member #130075
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  25. #150
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    Quote Originally Posted by jase007 View Post
    Nick:

    You can jack up your touring in the rear, support with jack stands, support rear diff with jack and drop one of the sub frame bolts to inspect the condition of your bushings. Would probably take a total of 15 minutes.

    Cheers.
    Just did it with Jason's special tool.
    He speaketh the gospel.
    I will always own a BMW.

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