E46 FD build

[Michaelessa]

didn't get much done in the last couple weeks on the car. Been busy with customer cars at the shop. I did get the dash fit, pedal box made and steering column mocked up tho...

Mike I'm a big fan, I'm super excited to see this car next year in ATL!

And not to threadjack, I just figured I'd pick your brain on this matter.

I have an issue with my e36 being extremely twitchy while drifting, like it will only transfer smoothly if I stay flatfoot pretty much at all times. Do you have any ideas on how I can set my car up to slow down my transfers? (in otherwords, I actually want to be able to pedal off)

Hmmm, what is your set up, tires/size, suspension, sways etc...?

[SLR]

Mike I'm a big fan, I'm super excited to see this car next year in ATL!

And not to threadjack, I just figured I'd pick your brain on this matter.

I have an issue with my e36 being extremely twitchy while drifting, like it will only transfer smoothly if I stay flatfoot pretty much at all times. Do you have any ideas on how I can set my car up to slow down my transfers? (in otherwords, I actually want to be able to pedal off)

See new thread I started.

[bennyfizzle]

tl;dr

go drive more

[Nisanda]

Soo SLR for rear spring what's your recommendation?

[bennyfizzle]

with low power and just learning the ropes, start out stiff. When you add power, tire, and angle, go softer.

mike has a bajillion horsepower and he runs 890lb/in out back which is 16kg/mm.

[Nisanda]

i ask because i used to run like 16k rear and was ok but to stiff, you can slide the car more easily and if you let go the gas it will keep side ways but not much traction and less smoke.

recently i have changed to 9k and the grip is great and the smoke two, BUT the car squats and tries to get straight soo no bueno (for me) maybe with more power but im still m5x with mods (for now) what maybe! 200hp, going for some 12k (672lbs) or something in between to balance things up.

[DjTyfighter]

you know you wanna come out to the 626 event on the 12th and give me a ride

[Jaze]

The problem is made even worse by cheap coilover companies not knowing ANYTHING about the platform and offering spring rate combos like 8kg/6kg or 8kg/8kg. The rear spring location on E30/E36/E46 means you need a much HIGHER rear rate than front in order to have a balanced feeling car, and it scares me to think these cheap suspension companies are likely valving their shocks inappropriately also considering the shock location.


-Sean

Who uses those rates? The only time i've seen anyone use an even spring rate is this e30. A few people have ordered 12/10k from me for e36 recently but i've never seen a company offer it that way.

In any case, i agree about the rear needing higher rates unless you go for a full coilover conversion

[attrack]

that car is bonkers and your driving is pretty top shelf as well. Sub'd

[tairyhesticles]

i ask because i used to run like 16k rear and was ok but to stiff, you can slide the car more easily and if you let go the gas it will keep side ways but not much traction and less smoke.

recently i have changed to 9k and the grip is great and the smoke two, BUT the car squats and tries to get straight soo no bueno (for me) maybe with more power but im still m5x with mods (for now) what maybe! 200hp, going for some 12k (672lbs) or something in between to balance things up.

I just ordered my BC's with 10k fronts and 12k rears. What company did you find 16k rears with? I bought the stiffest set I could find.

[Jaze]

https://www.google.com/search?q=e36+...ient=firefox-a

Some company I saw a couple years ago was selling 8kg/6kg also. Apparently some "engineers" don't understand "motion ratio" lol.

12/10 is really whack on an E36, or did you mean 10/12? Explain to people that the rear motion ratio is barely HALF of the front, so generally they need at least 30% stiffer in the rear. Look at PSS9's (very balanced setup) 460lb front, 680lb rear

I explained that exactly how you've typed it, it's a simple concept really but they said that they liked the rear grip. I suspect one random guy said it was awesome and it made it's way through the grapevine. All were from california too.

I've never tried such a high difference in rates in the rear, i like to go with a good 100 some odd pound difference or 2k.

I just ordered my BC's with 10k fronts and 12k rears. What company did you find 16k rears with? I bought the stiffest set I could find.

My most popular set up is 15/16-17k or 16/18k. You just weren't looking hard enough google the name in my sig. I don't use those specs for drift though, those are for a stance set up.

[sdipompo]

My BC's are 10k/14k and revalved.

[Nisanda]

I just ordered my BC's with 10k fronts and 12k rears. What company did you find 16k rears with? I bought the stiffest set I could find.

I run a shock spring setup not a full coilover, bought them of Ebay Hiper coilover spring (900lbs) so maybe 16k?, they are 2.25" inside diameter, so they fit the center hump on the spring base, i trimmed for height cut just like half turn almost nothing just to make it flush.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hyperco-Coil-Over-Spring-2-5-ID-6in-900lbs-HYP186B0900-/380535806522?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories &hash=item5899b39a3a&vxp=mtr

NOte: i bought them of graigslist for 70dlls used for the pair but are the same as the link, worked great! going for 12k now.

[SLR]

Soo SLR for rear spring what's your recommendation?

Missed this earlier, and I feel like I totally hijacked Mikes thread here, so I'm gonna start a new topic and answer there, deleting my posts here.

[integrale8v]

subscribed

[RoyalBlau]

Beautiful cage/fab work. Q: Any reason you opted for your pedal assembly instead of a floor mounted pedal box?

[bmerl0ve]

awesome car, awesome drift skills, awesome thread.. subscribed!

[Michaelessa]

Beautiful cage/fab work. Q: Any reason you opted for your pedal assembly instead of a floor mounted pedal box?

I like the feel of hung pedals, even tho i drive early Porsche's quite often with floor mount set ups, i just feel more comfortable with that style. Floor mount is easier to mount in most cars, but with the cage the way it is, its not a big deal to hang the pedals.

[Michaelessa]

Update!
chopped off the front of the frame rails to make room for our bash bar. Finished up the steering shaft mods


made a floor board and cut the steering shaft to length



chopped out the trunk area



its starting to come together!

[kidE30]

WOOHOO!! thanks for posting, its so sick to see it all come together.

[bmerl0ve]

looking better and better

[jpichu]

Jeezus.. O_0

[Blackateer]

subbed.
Dont know if you mentioned it already but what are your plans for the roof? fiberglass, carbon fiber, etc?
I know its unpractical in a street setting but in a racing setting could you leave it completely open? It would be just like a convertible right.

[sdipompo]

Looking good! I have some new ideas

[fishtail]

didn't get much done in the last couple weeks on the car. Been busy with customer cars at the shop. I did get the dash fit, pedal box made and steering column mocked up tho...

Hmmm, what is your set up, tires/size, suspension, sways etc...?

235/40/17 front, 225/40/17 rear, megan euro street coils 7k/F 9k/R, -2 degrees camber front(max on coilover) 6 degrees of caster front, oem sway bars, welded diff, all stock control arms in rear....

Btw car is coming together awesomely, I'm starting a similar build except with a 2jz.