my new project 1997 m3 sedan with s54 swap

[golgo13]

I've tried to paste imaged in before and it like converts it into unicode or something lol

It always ends poorly

Okay second attempt. Some bumper inlet printing progress.
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Very cool, dude!

[triplessafebest]

Is this the correct puller for the pilot bearing on an s54? Do I need the optional small jaws?
https://www.bimmerworld.com/Tools/Pi...CTA-8070L.html
https://www.bimmerworld.com/Tools/Small-Range-CTA-8070x07.html


Finally getting back to this and getting it back on the road with the ZF.

[triplessafebest]

Also DSSRs for the ZF into this car. There aren't off the shelf options. I bought a rogue e46 M3 DSSR with my other shifter parts hoping it would be close enough in size for a simple cut and reweld but probably not a good option. A friend is going to machine a similar design: Adjustable tension, same hardware, etc, but that fits this. Does anyone else have an interest in a DSSR for a ZF6 speed swap?

Pic comparing the reboot engineering selector to the e46 m3:

[blckstrm]

I'd buy one.

Also, I don't remember how I got the pilot bearing out. I half think I just left it in there, because the pilot bearing for the GS6 is in the flywheel.

But if I DID get it out, I just rented a puller from O'Reilly's.

[NeilM]

Also DSSRs for the ZF into this car. There aren't off the shelf options. I bought a rogue e46 M3 DSSR with my other shifter parts hoping it would be close enough in size for a simple cut and reweld but probably not a good option. A friend is going to machine a similar design: Adjustable tension, same hardware, etc, but that fits this. Does anyone else have an interest in a DSSR for a ZF6 speed swap?

Pic comparing the reboot engineering selector to the e46 m3:

See: https://cae-racing.de/?k=88&lang=eng

So what's the required DSSR pin-to-pin length for the ZF 6-speed for this application?
(And what did that ZF come out of?)

Neil
96 M3 - Getrag 6-spd

[golgo13]

Is this the correct puller for the pilot bearing on an s54? Do I need the optional small jaws?
https://www.bimmerworld.com/Tools/Pi...CTA-8070L.html

I have one of these but I used it with my S52, not sure about S54

I have a DSSR I need to sell, it's a CAE adjustable actually. For my car, I just used an AKG one which was just a machined piece of aluminum.

"Rod S" but don't tell my wife

https://cae-racing.de/Shift-Rod-S

[blckstrm]

See: https://cae-racing.de/?k=88&lang=eng

So what's the required DSSR pin-to-pin length for the ZF 6-speed for this application?
(And what did that ZF come out of?)

Neil
96 M3 - Getrag 6-spd

He's talking about the GS6-37BZ if I'm not mistaken, out of an E46 330 or maybe a Z4.

Center to center the pins need to be 96.5mm apart in an E36.

[Edit] Weird, that image didn't come up on my phone. So yes, the shortest one would be perfect. But also, man, that's a lot of money. That's going to be $300 after shipping from Europe.

I have talked to Garagistic about shortening their E46 330 DSSR (https://www.garagistic.com/products/...od-25117523847), but they told me they're too busy at the moment to take on custom projects. I pointed out that there are more and more people doing this swap, but they weren't interested in it when I talked to them last year.

[triplessafebest]

Doesn't the selector rod need a bend in it?

And yeah I'm using the 6 speed out of an 03+ 330i

[golgo13]

In the OEM set-up it's straight but not sure about your specific needs.

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[blckstrm]

I'm not sure it needs to bend. My factory selector rod did have a bend in it, and I see them both ways to clear the giubo, but at least in the case of the GS6 in an e36, the bottom of your lever in neutral is directly above the giubo, so the rod is never any closer than the bottom of the shift lever, so it shouldn't need a bend. But most everything seems to have a bend in it.

I poked around on Garagistic's site a little more this afternoon, and the E90 DSSR is actually really short. It's 85 mm, which is actually 10 mm too short. However, the E30 selector joint is 10 mm longer than the newer joint used on the e36, E46, and everything newer, and so if you pair the 85mm E9X DSSR with that 26 mm E30 joint, the length should be perfect. This solution also is a quite a bit cheaper than the CAE route. I'm actually going to order this stuff tomorrow and we'll see how it works. I'll report back once I get it installed.

https://www.garagistic.com/products/...od-25117524722

https://www.garagistic.com/products/...selector-joint

[sfcarguy]

Ron over at auto solutions makes custom BMW shifter parts all the time.

https://www.autosolutions.net/

[triplessafebest]

However, the E30 selector joint is 10 mm longer than the newer joint used on the e36, E46, and everything newer, and so if you pair the 85mm E9X DSSR with that 26 mm E30 joint, the length should be perfect.

https://www.garagistic.com/products/...od-25117524722

https://www.garagistic.com/products/...selector-joint

Who makes a good/robust e30 selector joint? OEM or something better out there?


Actually seeing the lengths listed out is really helpful. There are a lot of e90 dssr options.

[blckstrm]

Who makes a good/robust e30 selector joint? OEM or something better out there?


Actually seeing the lengths listed out is really helpful. There are a lot of e90 dssr options.

Theirs (Garagistic) looks pretty good to me. Instead of delrin it's got a pair of bearings so you can cinch the DSSR down really tight.

They also have an offset one, which could help if you're making contact with the giubo, but that one A) looka like it is just a modified stock one, so it has a delrin lined hole, and B) is also out of stock. Which makes me think they may not sell enough to keep them around.

But I gotta say, the autosolutions stuff looks and sounds pretty nice.

Rifle bolt they say? I've spent a lot of time making the rest of my car feel like that.

Yes please!

[NeilM]

He's talking about the GS6-37BZ if I'm not mistaken, out of an E46 330 or maybe a Z4.

Center to center the pins need to be 96.5mm apart in an E36.

[Edit] Weird, that image didn't come up on my phone. So yes, the shortest one would be perfect. But also, man, that's a lot of money. That's going to be $300 after shipping from Europe.

I have talked to Garagistic about shortening their E46 330 DSSR (https://www.garagistic.com/products/...od-25117523847), but they told me they're too busy at the moment to take on custom projects. I pointed out that there are more and more people doing this swap, but they weren't interested in it when I talked to them last year.

Hey, I never said they were cheap! But at least they exist.

You'd be paying the price of some thorough German engineering, and for the adjustable length feature that effectively allows for tailoring the fore/aft position of the gearshift knob as installed. As it happens that last is a feature I could use, but I confess to not having been able to make myself cough up that much to get it. Yet...

Note that the online prices include ~20% VAT, which you wouldn't have to pay for export. That'd more than cover DHL shipment, so maybe $270 delivered to the USA? That might not be more expensive than a custom solution — if you can even get someone to do that. (Edit to add: I see that when Garagistic offered a custom DSSR, which they no longer do, its cost was $247.50. So maybe that CAE part isn't as expensive as all that.)

Neil

[triplessafebest]

Anyone else had trouble posting images lately? I tried to update the thread but every upload is over the quota by the file size of the image I upload.

[MauiM3Mania]

Anyone else had trouble posting images lately? I tried to update the thread but every upload is over the quota by the file size of the image I upload.

Looking into it!

[MauiM3Mania]

Anyone else had trouble posting images lately? I tried to update the thread but every upload is over the quota by the file size of the image I upload.

Try again, if needed.

[triplessafebest]

Some updates. Been doing a few things on this in the background while busy with work. First off some 3d scans of the underside for planning a future 3.5" single exit exhaust:

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I pulled the ZF from my E46 and got it cleaned up:
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Made a DSSR from the garagistic kit. This is my first time doing anything with tig. I need a bigger cup, the #6 that came with the torch isn't giving good coverage.
DSSR1.jpgDSSR_welded.jpg



And here is the pile of parts I have gone with. New rogue shifter, reboot engineering conversion bracket and shift carrier. Clutchmasters kit with steel flywheel, and then some fresh rubber, gaskets, and bolts.

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[blckstrm]

I don't know if we talked about this, but I love Clutchmaster's Stage 2 Kevlar clutch. I hated their stage 1 clutch, but the kevlar clutch is seriously great for both street and track.

[triplessafebest]

I got the organic/kevlar disc (fx250).

[blckstrm]

I got the organic/kevlar disc (fx250).

Great - that's the one! Lol - hopefully you like it as much as I like mine!

[aeronaut]

Subscribed, some good stuff happening in here.

[triplessafebest]

UPDATE:
I was going to start dressing the ZF 6 speed to install and discovered I actually have an e46 diesel 6 speed Part number "1053 401 151"

This was what was in the late 03 330i I had been driving and the previous owner must have swapped it out. Now im looking around for a good gs6-37

[blckstrm]

UPDATE:
I was going to start dressing the ZF 6 speed to install and discovered I actually have an e46 diesel 6 speed Part number "1053 401 151"

This was what was in the late 03 330i I had been driving and the previous owner must have swapped it out. Now im looking around for a good gs6-37

There are people who like those better because of the gearing, though to me the first couple gears look REALLY short. But hopefully that means you're able to sell that relatively easily.

[triplessafebest]

Update to my transmission saga. I swapped a ZF5 speed for what I was told was a GS6-37bz out of a ZHP. The guy I got it from had it from someone else and never owned the car it came out of. I got it really nicely cleaned up. New clutch installed, happy days. I went to install it yesterday and discovered I have what I believe is the GS6-37BZ — TJEP out of a n52 car. The bellhousing bolts don't all align, im missing the starter dowel, and the bellhousing part stamping 1069 401 065

I'm having a hard time finding a good gs6 that will work. Car-part.com has a few in the southeast no pictures or condition details and several of the transmissions on there that do have pictures are the same wrong gearbox labeled for the wrong year car.

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I redid my tunnel insulation with DEI trans tunnel 2 in black:


tunnel.jpgclutch2.jpg

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Also I 3d scanned this transmission:
gs6-37bz.jpg

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I had an emergency bench press rep trying to install the gearbox using the HF floor jack so I modified it to bolt into the transmission. I also swapped out the casters and got it low enough I can roll it right under the engine without it touch while keeping it all bolted down and level. A huge quality of life improvement doing the trans install by myself:
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Also in preparation for installing the upper bolts I printed a little magnetic e14 socket insert

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