Why does the US support Israel?

[motoyen]

Can someone explain to me why the US supports Israel so much? Isn't that support one of the reasons why Arab nations hate the US so much? Please explain to this confused canuck. Didn't Israel take the land from the Arabs?

[HK_M3]

This belongs in the war forum!

That and the Israelins rock!!!

-Nate

[Rave TT]

They don't smell as much.

[Malcolm]

I don't think a few lines on a message board can adequately express the complex relationship between the USA and Israel. The USA's support of Israel is indeed a central point of friction between the USA and the Arab states. The Israelis don't always act in what would be the best interest of the USA. However, it is worth remembering that Israel is the only functioning democracy in the entire Middle East.

[Doglass]

Well when Palestine attacks Israel, it is in the form of random terrorist like attacks. Israel actually has a starchy army and whatnot.

[onebadm5]

actually, it can be boiled down to the fact that imperialistic attitudes which the U.S. has always held close to heart compelled them to take an active role in the formation of an israeli state (READ: Spread of "democracy") 50 some odd years ago. That's pretty much it...

[dave is cool]

This should be in the "War On Terrorism" forum

[Pepe240sx]

However, it is worth remembering that Israel is the only functioning democracy in the entire Middle East.

Then what about Iran or Bahrain? Or even Turkey? Aren't those functioning democracies as well.

Besides, what's supporting Israel gonna get us in return anyways? They behave arrogant as well, especially when they hold more stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction than other countries in that region, yet they are free to do what they want. There's that double standard being applied there, and I would like to keep in mind that the Arab world has their double standards as well. Pretty much, both sides have their own double standards and they should take a close look at themselves and see what they have accomplished in the path for peace.

[NickBooras]

Originally posted by dave is cool
This should be in the "War On Terrorism" forum

I disagree. This is a political discussion about why the US supports Israel, not about terrorism directly.

[count_schemula]

Hitler gave Zionism power. After the holocaust, Jews were ready to leave Russia and Europe.

The UK kinda governed Palestine, and Jews were heading to Palestine. This created problems. The Jews attacked UK interests in Palestine, and the UK had oil interests in the Middle East in general, so they could take no real action one way or the other.

Enter the UN where under US and Russian leadership, Israel was carved out of Palestine.

Israel got its first weapons from Russia and Czechoslovakia. Arabs immediately attacked Israel, and Israel was beaten, and then fought back.

After that it's the cold war, oil and the balance of power. As the US was dealing with Korea, Vietnam and all that, Israel became a toehold in one area the US was determined not to leave/abandon. ie the Middle East. Nixon sold Israel some serious weapons in 1973 after the Yom Kippur war and after that, the "special relationship" was born.

Arms sales are arms sales.

[T-Rex]

yea, pretty much wats already been said. it boils down to the US was implementing the marshall plan to halt the spread of communism in europe/the middle east. when the UK relinquished control of the palestinian state in 48, the day after the 2 of the 4 zones it was devided into (2 jewish 2 muslim) attacked the 2 iraeli zones in a coallition with jordan, iraq, iran, egypt, and syria who at the time had just gained independence as well. The iraelis won, and the US decided that to halt the spread of communism, they should use israel as part of their system of US supported states so communism couldnt spread out further. So, we basically bribed them, and gave them weapons. from then on, the wars of 1956 and 1967 were proxy wars, where the superpowers get other countries to fight each other so the actual superpowers dont have to. so ya, its basically a result of the US government under truman and later eisenhower wanting to stop the spread of communism.

[shragon]

Originally posted by AudiS4
Because the jewish population has one of the strongest and most influential lobbies in the US.

you're right on the dot.

[T-Rex]

Originally posted by shragon
you're right on the dot.

why do you really believe that? While its not entirely innaccurate, thats not the vast majority of the reason. *edited to not seem like a flame*

[shragon]

please don't insult me. i am educated and this is my opinion. if you don't beleive it, or only partially beleive it, fine, so be it.

[T-Rex]

Originally posted by shragon
please don't insult me. i am educated and this is my opinion. if you don't beleive it, or only partially beleive it, fine, so be it.

sorry
i didnt mean to flame. i am simply wondering the basis of your opinion. again, didnt mean to insult/criticise

[shragon]

it's alright man, i know the internet can sometimes not be the greatest place for these types of discussions since we can not see how things are being said and so fourth.

actually after reading your comment above mine, i do agree with what you have said. however, for the reason why the US keeps supporting, in my opinion i mostly agree it is due to the jewish community's strong lobbies in US gov't.

[T-Rex]

Originally posted by shragon
it's alright man, i know the internet can sometimes not be the greatest place for these types of discussions since we can not see how things are being said and so fourth.

actually after reading your comment above mine, i do agree with what you have said. however, for the reason why the US keeps supporting, in my opinion i mostly agree it is due to the jewish community's strong lobbies in US gov't.

for sure. thats what i meant, after the collapse of the USSR there was no reason other than the massive jewish population/influence. good to know we agree

[shragon]

funny how things turn out huh?

[iamane30m20nut]

go bubb rubb!

[T-Rex]

Originally posted by shragon
funny how things turn out huh?

for sure
ill take face to face communication any day man, this is the perfect example why

[marwan]

Originally posted by motoyen
Can someone explain to me why the US supports Israel so much? Isn't that support one of the reasons why Arab nations hate the US so much? Please explain to this confused canuck. Didn't Israel take the land from the Arabs?

cuz the whole lobby in the U.S is jewish! let alone Bush's advisors! ...the whole country is controled by jews. As a matter of fact the U.S is like a shield to Israelis, protecting them while Israel as usuall practices their evil actions and slaughters innocent palestinians! :

[Balthazarr]

It doesn't help matters that the Jews are referred to as the "Chosen People".
I think this phrase has gone to their heads so is in part responsible for the hubris they embrace.

[///M3-Mike]

Originally posted by marwan
cuz the whole lobby in the U.S is jewish! let alone Bush's advisors! ...the whole country is controled by jews. As a matter of fact the U.S is like a shield to Israelis, protecting them while Israel as usuall practices their evil actions and slaughters innocent palestinians! :

Can you say BIAS?

[Malcolm]

Originally posted by RalliArtRacer
Then what about Iran or Bahrain? Or even Turkey? Aren't those functioning democracies as well.

You mean the Kingdom of Bahrain where political parties are outlawed, or the Islamic Republic of Iran where the "Leader of the Islamic Revolution" (a/k/a the chief of state) is appointed for life?

Turkey is indeed a functioning democracy, but it isn't in the traditional definition of the Middle East.

[William Regal]

Originally posted by marwan
cuz the whole lobby in the U.S is jewish! let alone Bush's advisors! ...the whole country is controled by jews. As a matter of fact the U.S is like a shield to Israelis, protecting them while Israel as usuall practices their evil actions and slaughters innocent palestinians! :

With an attitude like that, hopefully you are next. That is of course unless you decide to strap some C4 to your chest and kill civilians.