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Thread: "2 Door Touring" M52 Turbo e30 Hatch Project

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    "2 Door Touring" M52 Turbo e30 Hatch Project

    If there was such thing as a predecessor to the M Coupe this would be it. I've always admired the "M Shoe" but at their value I can't imagine building a play/track car out of one! With that said, Group A & B rally cars have always impressed me so I said why not combine the style and performance of those 1980's monsters with the availability, light weight chassis, and mechanical ease of an e30?! I wanted something a little bit off the beaten path though, some say it looks like an Escort GT while others think BMW should have built it…either you love it or you hate it!

    I've been designing the build for months and just picked up a '96 328i 5-speed for the organ donor. The goal is under 2,200lbs with 360whp/380lbs-ft. torque at low boost of 10psi with full spool between 2,500 & 2,800 RPM's, who knows what it will produce between 1.0 and 1.5 bar?!





    Exterior:
    Chassis: e30 325i/e - Nogaro silver modified into a hatch
    Body: e30 M3 rear quarters, front fenders, rear bumper, sideskirts, & e30 M3 Evo front bumper.
    Wheels:
    Street:
    OEM Euro BMW Staggered 5's - BBS RC009/010 - 17x8F ET:10 & 17x9R ET:19
    Track:
    Team Dynamics Pro Racing 1.2 - 16x?
    Windows: Speedglass [coated lexan] quarters and rear


    Interior:
    Roll cage: Custom 8+ point
    Tied into shock towers
    Gusseted to body
    Ladder bars or x-brace
    Dash: OEM E30 with console wrapped in black suede
    Guages: VDO Vision in carbon fiber panel
    Seats: Recaro black suede
    Harness: Schroth Clubman III


    Powertrain:
    Block - M52 2.8L
    Crank - OEM
    Camshaft - OEM or M3
    Piston - OEM
    Head - M52 2.8L
    Intake Manifold - OBD1 M50

    E34 oil pan & pick up, etc. etc. The goal is 8.9:1 compression ratio with a 0.140 head gasket and ARP headstuds. AutoFab Motorsports custom turbo kit. Intercooler, piping, wastegate, bov, to be determined...

    666 Fabrication top mount exhaust manifold
    Precision GT30R Ball Bearing Turbo
    550+cc Injectors
    Megasquirt V3 EFI


    Drivetrain:
    Flywheel: TMS 11lb Twin Disc Clutch/Flywheel Assembly or UUC Modifed M5 clutch with 8.5lbs flywheel
    Transmission: 328i
    Shifter: n/a
    Differential: 2.79 or 2.93 LSD


    Suspension:
    5 Lug Conversion - E36 TMS Group N/World Challenge Coil Over Suspension: [/i]
    1998+ E36 M3 front subrame & 318ti rear
    Shocks: Bilstein Group N
    Springs: H&R Race
    Sway bars: Suspension Techniques 27/24mm
    Strut brace: Sparco Front Strut Tower Bar


    Brakes:
    Calipers: Brembo 4 Piston OEM Porsche aluminum monoblock
    w/ custom CNC’d aluminum conversion bracket
    Rotor: AP Racing 11.98” (304mm) blank
    Custom aluminum rotor hat - 4 x 100 / 5 x 120
    Goodridge stainless-steel braided brake lines


    All constructive criticism, opinions, comments, and suggestions welcome :thumbs:
    Last edited by speedminded; 05-27-2009 at 09:44 PM.

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    Thats fucking tits. I have always wanted to see an e30 m3 hatch. I have seen p-chops of them in the past and I thought they looked great. Eventually someday I wanted to make one.

    Definitely need to keep us posted.

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    The concept is awesome. Good luck.


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    Holy hell, you better keep this going man!

    When completed it will be my favorite E30 of all time.
    "1991 332is - 1998 Supercharged OBDI S52 - E36 5-Lug with E36 M3 Brakes - B&G Coilovers - 2.93 LSD - Style 5's"

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    3 words to you sir.
    KEEP US POSTED
    plz?!?

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    Thats HOT. It does remind me of an Escort a little bit. In a kind of a "wolf in sheep's clothing"-ish sorta way.

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    It's gonna be fast as hell, That's for sure. but as far as the whole hatch thing.........

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    e30 hatches are nice.

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    It seems very cool, but what functionally/practically is achieved by making it a hatchback? Honestly for all of the work involved, I feel like you'd be getting into M-Coupe territory, in terms of money.

    Cool idea though, I'd love to see it happen.

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    Like others have said, it looks like a lot of work, but if you complete it, it will be sweet.

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    nice project man

    have you ever heard of the 2 door e30 touring?


    and i cant find it, but they made a 2 door touring e30 hatch back. 11 were made back in the 80's

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    I love it! I was thinking of doing something similar, but with the collectability of the m3, I think I decided to just buy a stock one, and use something else for a crazy weekend car.

    Looks like you know your shit, and that this isn't just a pipe dream. I've only seen one M-touring, and it was apparently a piece of shit that only looked good in pics. Can't wait to see the final project!


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    I can't find the thread on the chap who picked up a beat up two-door coupe Touring in SA. But here's this thread anyways, scroll down.

    http://www.e30clubsa.co.za/forum/vie...h_id=893326950

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    Quote Originally Posted by davey101 View Post
    nice project man

    have you ever heard of the 2 door e30 touring?

    and i cant find it, but they made a 2 door touring e30 hatch back. 11 were made back in the 80's
    Yep! It's called the two door Stoere Touring. In the "hottest e30" thread version 1 there is a great link to several photos.








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    I am hoping for some progress, anything new going on with this project ??

    Thomas



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    here's my version of an e30m3 ti/hatchback....

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    Awesome concept! I've been thinking about attempting an e28 touring but haven't found any suitable rear hatch assemblies yet. Keep posting progress

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    Quote Originally Posted by vr4boy View Post
    here's my version of an e30m3 ti/hatchback....
    why'd you stop at the redlight!! lol

    poor m3....what happened?

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    +1 where the hell is the update?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vr4boy View Post
    here's my version of an e30m3 ti/hatchback....
    Holy bumper tuck Batman!!!
    Keith

    Quote Originally Posted by MrGone View Post
    It is amazing how in these situations something that is typically insignificant shows fundamental differences in principles/value recognition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vr4boy View Post
    here's my version of an e30m3 ti/hatchback....
    Ouch ... sorry to see that . What are your plans for this car ?

    Thomas



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    Quote Originally Posted by RevmasterT View Post
    Ouch ... sorry to see that . What are your plans for this car ?

    Thomas
    hoping to find a shell and transfer everything but then again,what will i do w/ 2 e30m3's....
    may end up parting it out.
    prev. owner spun the car and hit a jersey wall.



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    If you're interested in parting the car or selling it shoot me a PM or e-mail with some more details I might be interested.

    Quote Originally Posted by vr4boy View Post
    hoping to find a shell and transfer everything but then again,what will i do w/ 2 e30m3's....
    may end up parting it out.
    prev. owner spun the car and hit a jersey wall.



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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded View Post
    I've always admired the "M Shoe" but at their value I can't imagine building a play/track car out of one! With that said,
    . . I'm not sure if a M-Coupe wouldn't be cheaper than your build

    I like the Idea . . I've seen attempts to do this in Germany . . but they all failed because it's just so much bodywork . .

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    Bmw should have built that!

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