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    Quote Originally Posted by epj3 View Post
    Any update on this? I'm tired of the shoddyness of the plug and play kit.
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    i'm honestly shocked that umnitza/habbie/apexcone have yet to sell a proper pnp based on the OE euro parts. They could make a killing charging $50 a pop, even if they didn't sell a ton of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikea128 View Post
    i'm honestly shocked that umnitza/habbie/apexcone have yet to sell a proper pnp based on the OE euro parts. They could make a killing charging $50 a pop, even if they didn't sell a ton of them.
    I'm happy with the stuff I ordered from them, but honestly it does not surprise me. I just can't believe they want $35 for $12 of parts. I'm replacing mine because I have to - the city light wire got frayed from normal use!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikea128 View Post
    i ordered the parts mentioned on the topquark site...waiting on the parts to arrive. i agree that the PNP from Umnitza is pathetic and can't wait to be rid of it. Not that it's ever given me any trouble, but it's just really ghetto looking and i can't even stand to think about it.

    i don't anticipate any problems making this work.
    I'm probably going to order the parts described in that link I had posted. Anxious to see what you say about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by epj3 View Post
    Any update on this? I'm tired of the shoddyness of the plug and play kit.

    I found a bit of instructions here, http://www.topquark.net/

    Looks like about $36 total for all parts to make the connector. Not too bad since all you need in addition are female 9005/9006 connectors, which are like $2.50 each (need two of the 9005 and two of the 9006) and a few cents of wire. Lets say $45 for a WAY less "ghetto" version of the plug and play kits that use female molex pins...
    Lifted for posterity from the link provided above-

    Some info I assembled while I was buying new lights for my car: E36 European Ellipsoid Headlights

    Ellipsoid headlights were manufactured by both ZKW and Bosch for European E36 BMWs sold from '91-'94.
    The ZKW's are BMW Parts 63121393271 (Drivers) and 63121393272 (Passengers) and ZKW Parts 519.01.000.01 (D) and 519.02.000.01 (P).
    The Bosch's are BMW Parts 63121387041 (D) and 63121387042 (P) and Bosch Parts 0 301 087 025 (D) and 0 301 087 026 (P).
    These parts each come with two 55W H1 bulbs.

    In the parts catalog, the Euro M3 Convertible lists both the ZKW and Bosch lights, but the Euro M3 Coupe lists only the Bosch.
    The ZKW and Bosch lights are not identical (the internals are slightly different), but they are interchangeable (the ZKW lights will fit an M3 Coupe), so I'm not sure why they are listed that way.

    The European headlights will physically fit in any E36 BMW, but will require a wiring converter to connect to an American BMW.
    Many places sell wiring conversion kits, but if you care to make your own:

    The plug to connect to the European headlights is the same as the plug for the MAF - BMW Part 61131392222 (you will need to order one for each headlight).
    The plug doesn't come with pin contacts in it, so you will need to order those as well - they are BMW Part 61130007571 (you will need to order 8 - 4 for each plug).

    (61130007571 is a standard 1.0x2.5mm pin contact (available alone as BMW Part 61130007450) with a grommet (available alone as BMW Part 61131382195) around it (picture - the top one is 61130007571, the bottom one is 61130007450) - to save some money, you could instead buy the 1.0x2.5mm pin contacts from an electronics shop, and buy only the grommets from BMW, or skip the grommets altogether)

    The rubber cover ("Protection Cap") for the plug is BMW Part 12521713508 (you will need to order one for each headlight). This part doesn't appear anywhere on realoem.com (only a similar but much larger cover is listed - BMW Part 12521719733), but it is available from bmwautopartsdealer.com.
    The (male) plugs to connect to the existing (female) plugs on the car's wiring harness are standard 9006 (low beam) and 9005 (high beam) connectors.

    suvlights.com and rallylights.com both appear to carry them.

    If you want to use the small running lights in the headlights (or use the wire for the running lights to power Angel Eyes), 3M 951 T-Taps/Vampire-Taps and standard .250" Male Disconnect Terminals can be used to easily connect the wire from the headlights to the wire for the running lights in the turn signals.

    Most large hardware stores and electronics distributors are likely to carry these.

    If you have a Dinan cold air intake, you will not be able to use the Dinan air filter with European headlights. The European headlights are significantly deeper than the American headlights, and there is not enough room behind them for the Dinan air filter, which normally sits partially behind the headlight.
    You can, however, replace the Dinan air filter with a K&N RU-2790, which is shorter than the Dinan filter and will fit entirely within the bumper compartment underneath the headlight. This leaves just enough room behind the headlight for the Dinan intake pipe to connect to the air filter.
    Even with the smaller filter, you may find that the large knob on the back of the European headlights rubs on the Dinan intake pipe. If this is the case, you may want to put a small piece of foam between the headlight and the intake pipe, or file down the knob on the headlight to keep the headlight from scratching the intake.

    Later revisions of both the ZKW and Bosch European E36 headlights do not use ellipsoidal reflectors.
    I've never seen European non-Ellipsoid headlights myself, so I can't compare them to the Ellipsoids, but everyone seems to consider the Ellipsoids to be better. Given the availability of Ellipsoid headlights, I doubt there is much reason to buy non-Ellipsoid headlights.

    For E36 BMWs from 5/94 to 9/94, both ZKW and Bosch manufactured European non-Ellipsoid headlights with H1 bulbs.

    The ZKW's are BMW Parts 63128363079 (D) and 63128363080 (P) - I'm not positive on the ZKW Part Numbers, but they may be 519.01.000.02 (D) and 519.02.000.02 (P).
    The Bosch's are BMW Parts 63128363081 (D) and 63128363082 (P) and Bosch Parts 0 301 087 035 (D) and 0 301 087 036 (P).

    For E36 BMWs from 95-99, both ZKW and Bosch manufactured European non-Ellipsoid headlights with H7 bulbs.

    The ZKW's are BMW Parts 63128363495 (D) and 63128363496 (P) - I'm not positive on the ZKW Part Numbers, but they may be 519.11.000.01 (D) and 519.12.000.01 (P).
    The Bosch's are BMW Parts 63128363493 (D) and 63128363494 (P) and Bosch Parts 0 301 095 003 (D) and 0 301 095 004 (P).
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluptgm3 View Post
    Lifted for posterity from the link provided above-

    Some info I assembled while I was buying new lights for my car: E36 European Ellipsoid Headlights

    Ellipsoid headlights were manufactured by both ZKW and Bosch for European E36 BMWs sold from '91-'94.
    The ZKW's are BMW Parts 63121393271 (Drivers) and 63121393272 (Passengers) and ZKW Parts 519.01.000.01 (D) and 519.02.000.01 (P).
    The Bosch's are BMW Parts 63121387041 (D) and 63121387042 (P) and Bosch Parts 0 301 087 025 (D) and 0 301 087 026 (P).
    These parts each come with two 55W H1 bulbs.

    In the parts catalog, the Euro M3 Convertible lists both the ZKW and Bosch lights, but the Euro M3 Coupe lists only the Bosch.
    The ZKW and Bosch lights are not identical (the internals are slightly different), but they are interchangeable (the ZKW lights will fit an M3 Coupe), so I'm not sure why they are listed that way.

    The European headlights will physically fit in any E36 BMW, but will require a wiring converter to connect to an American BMW.
    Many places sell wiring conversion kits, but if you care to make your own:

    The plug to connect to the European headlights is the same as the plug for the MAF - BMW Part 61131392222 (you will need to order one for each headlight).
    The plug doesn't come with pin contacts in it, so you will need to order those as well - they are BMW Part 61130007571 (you will need to order 8 - 4 for each plug).

    (61130007571 is a standard 1.0x2.5mm pin contact (available alone as BMW Part 61130007450) with a grommet (available alone as BMW Part 61131382195) around it (picture - the top one is 61130007571, the bottom one is 61130007450) - to save some money, you could instead buy the 1.0x2.5mm pin contacts from an electronics shop, and buy only the grommets from BMW, or skip the grommets altogether)

    The rubber cover ("Protection Cap") for the plug is BMW Part 12521713508 (you will need to order one for each headlight). This part doesn't appear anywhere on realoem.com (only a similar but much larger cover is listed - BMW Part 12521719733), but it is available from bmwautopartsdealer.com.
    The (male) plugs to connect to the existing (female) plugs on the car's wiring harness are standard 9006 (low beam) and 9005 (high beam) connectors.

    suvlights.com and rallylights.com both appear to carry them.

    If you want to use the small running lights in the headlights (or use the wire for the running lights to power Angel Eyes), 3M 951 T-Taps/Vampire-Taps and standard .250" Male Disconnect Terminals can be used to easily connect the wire from the headlights to the wire for the running lights in the turn signals.

    Most large hardware stores and electronics distributors are likely to carry these.

    If you have a Dinan cold air intake, you will not be able to use the Dinan air filter with European headlights. The European headlights are significantly deeper than the American headlights, and there is not enough room behind them for the Dinan air filter, which normally sits partially behind the headlight.
    You can, however, replace the Dinan air filter with a K&N RU-2790, which is shorter than the Dinan filter and will fit entirely within the bumper compartment underneath the headlight. This leaves just enough room behind the headlight for the Dinan intake pipe to connect to the air filter.
    Even with the smaller filter, you may find that the large knob on the back of the European headlights rubs on the Dinan intake pipe. If this is the case, you may want to put a small piece of foam between the headlight and the intake pipe, or file down the knob on the headlight to keep the headlight from scratching the intake.

    Later revisions of both the ZKW and Bosch European E36 headlights do not use ellipsoidal reflectors.
    I've never seen European non-Ellipsoid headlights myself, so I can't compare them to the Ellipsoids, but everyone seems to consider the Ellipsoids to be better. Given the availability of Ellipsoid headlights, I doubt there is much reason to buy non-Ellipsoid headlights.

    For E36 BMWs from 5/94 to 9/94, both ZKW and Bosch manufactured European non-Ellipsoid headlights with H1 bulbs.

    The ZKW's are BMW Parts 63128363079 (D) and 63128363080 (P) - I'm not positive on the ZKW Part Numbers, but they may be 519.01.000.02 (D) and 519.02.000.02 (P).
    The Bosch's are BMW Parts 63128363081 (D) and 63128363082 (P) and Bosch Parts 0 301 087 035 (D) and 0 301 087 036 (P).

    For E36 BMWs from 95-99, both ZKW and Bosch manufactured European non-Ellipsoid headlights with H7 bulbs.

    The ZKW's are BMW Parts 63128363495 (D) and 63128363496 (P) - I'm not positive on the ZKW Part Numbers, but they may be 519.11.000.01 (D) and 519.12.000.01 (P).
    The Bosch's are BMW Parts 63128363493 (D) and 63128363494 (P) and Bosch Parts 0 301 095 003 (D) and 0 301 095 004 (P).

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