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    Here's a quick pic I snapped today. Car handles REALLL nice!


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    Quote Originally Posted by M52 POWER! View Post
    Here's a quick pic I snapped today. Car handles REALLL nice!
    Where are the rest of the pics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M52 POWER! View Post
    Here's a quick pic I snapped today. Car handles REALLL nice!

    Damn you must be running like -4 deg of camber

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    Quote Originally Posted by epj3 View Post
    Damn you must be running like -4 deg of camber
    i saw that too lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChosenGSR View Post
    Where are the rest of the pics?
    What else do you want to see> ?

    Believe it or not that's only -2.8 camber. I think the offset LCAB's are causing this but I am happy with it at that setting for now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by M52 POWER! View Post
    What else do you want to see> ?

    Believe it or not that's only -2.8 camber. I think the offset LCAB's are causing this but I am happy with it at that setting for now!
    Damn, I am at -2.5 maxed out minimum. I'm pretty happy with the range of adjustment

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    Quote Originally Posted by epj3 View Post
    Damn, I am at -2.5 maxed out minimum. I'm pretty happy with the range of adjustment
    I think mine max out at -2.2 minimum... And somewhere around 4 max.

    I'm definitely happy with the range as well.
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    Offset LCAB's ftl. Treehouse racing? hmmmm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by M52 POWER! View Post
    Offset LCAB's ftl. Treehouse racing? hmmmm...
    Why not centered? Powerflex or something?

    IIRC the treehouse ones are offset. Any camber/caster gained by the offset bushings should be adjustable with the camber plates.

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    Offset CAB's should not drastically affect camber - Only caster.
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    Guys with the 4100's, what's the maximum highest front ride height? My car still sees a fair bit of street driving and I need about 13"-13.5" to clear some of the speed humps in my area.. THanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by joon View Post
    Guys with the 4100's, what's the maximum highest front ride height? My car still sees a fair bit of street driving and I need about 13"-13.5" to clear some of the speed humps in my area.. THanks!
    Depends on the spring's free length that you ordered. The longer the spring, the higher the available ride height. However, you can also run into wheel / spring / perch clearance issues if you run too long of a spring.

    Look up about 10 posts and there are measurements for you.

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    I have the 4100 kit on a 1998 M3 coupe. I'm using Vorshlag adjustable camber plates and the AST rear ride height adjusters. The kit was shipped with 90nm x 150mm front springs and 110nm x 140mm rear springs.

    With the front spring perches run as high on the strut bodies as possible allowing full thread engagement, I measure 12-1/2" from hub center to fender lip. The rear is at 12-1/4" with 7 threads showing on the adjuster.

    I discussed this with Terry Fair from Vorshlag/AST USA. His position is that the springs were shipped on the basis that no one has wanted more adjustment range, and the priority is keeping the front spring perch as high as possible for tire clearance.

    Having autocrossed the car once, and done 200 miles of mixed street driving, I definitely want different springs which will allow me adjustment room above 12-1/2" in the front.

    Talk to Terry or Brian. They're helpful and they know their stuff, and they seem to follow this thread.

    Assuming that they do, did you guys read my email yesterday?

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    ^^^ Did you get mine from a few days ago?

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    Currently I have 4200s with 150-100 (5.9in-570in/lb) front and 140-110 (5.5in-629 in/lb) rear and vorshlag camber plates.

    With no threads showing in front I'm at 13.0-13.1in (stock is ~13.5in) from wheels center to fender lip. The rear should be around ~12.4 in. This puts the load on each corner within 10-15lbs unloaded side to side since we drive with two people in the car at all non-national events anyways.

    You have to be a little careful how you pull in and out of some driveways, but it's not debilitating by any means. There are stock cars out there were you need to be more cautious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gleb View Post
    ^^^ Did you get mine from a few days ago?
    ditto, sent one to Terry about 3 days back with no response. Guys must be busy racing or something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gleb View Post
    ^^^ Did you get mine from a few days ago?
    Hanchey e-mailed you yesterday - We've got your shocks ready for you. The coilover rear set-up you ordered is very slick.

    We've got some shortened E30 strut housings we're testing next. This is going to be an option we'll be offering very soon for AST4100s. E30 4200 and 4300s are built with new strut tubes, but on 4100s we can shorten and re-tap the OEM strut tubes. Got our glass bead blasting cabinet set-up and they cleaned up real nice... will look trick after they get back from plating. Sunglasses required.

    We're playing catch up after another big shipment from AST arrived today. Oh, and I just installed a new door in the shop. And built several new shock dyno strut mounting fixtures (burned 5 hours doing fab work, yikes!) and just had an avalanche of orders come in. Not complaining - keep 'em coming!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fair View Post
    Hanchey e-mailed you yesterday - We've got your shocks ready for you. The coilover rear set-up you ordered is very slick.

    We've got some shortened E30 strut housings we're testing next. This is going to be an option we'll be offering very soon for AST4100s. E30 4200 and 4300s are built with new strut tubes, but on 4100s we can shorten and re-tap the OEM strut tubes. Got our glass bead blasting cabinet set-up and they cleaned up real nice... will look trick after they get back from plating. Sunglasses required.

    We're playing catch up after another big shipment from AST arrived today. Oh, and I just installed a new door in the shop. And built several new shock dyno strut mounting fixtures (burned 5 hours doing fab work, yikes!) and just had an avalanche of orders come in. Not complaining - keep 'em coming!

    Damn, I wish my coilovers were in that shipment, but Brian said they should be done being built next week? I assume it's about 2-3 weeks more out before I get my stuff then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Nguyen View Post
    Damn, I wish my coilovers were in that shipment, but Brian said they should be done being built next week? I assume it's about 2-3 weeks more out before I get my stuff then.
    Patience... it's totally worth it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fair View Post
    Hanchey e-mailed you yesterday - We've got your shocks ready for you. The coilover rear set-up you ordered is very slick.

    We've got some shortened E30 strut housings we're testing next. This is going to be an option we'll be offering very soon for AST4100s. E30 4200 and 4300s are built with new strut tubes, but on 4100s we can shorten and re-tap the OEM strut tubes. Got our glass bead blasting cabinet set-up and they cleaned up real nice... will look trick after they get back from plating. Sunglasses required.

    We're playing catch up after another big shipment from AST arrived today. Oh, and I just installed a new door in the shop. And built several new shock dyno strut mounting fixtures (burned 5 hours doing fab work, yikes!) and just had an avalanche of orders come in. Not complaining - keep 'em coming!
    That's great. I got his e-mail today. Can't wait. Thank you!
    I was pondering spring rates for a while and getting some advice from local set-up gurus. Maybe this thread is a good place to discuss AST spring rates?...
    Anyway, I decided on 700F and 600R. Race application only. Car with driver should be around 24-2500lb.
    What do you think?

    I should clarify for those reading this thread and interested that, it will be a true coilover in the rear.

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    Just a "for what its worth" post -- springs are not expensive. Not sure what Terry and Brian would charge for individual springs, but there is "another vendor" who runs a website to sell H&R springs for something like $44/ea. So if you guys ever want to change spring rates or height, it's not that expensive.

    I would still contact vorshlag first though

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