SAMCO Intake Boot Review

**LuvMy328is** · 02-09-2007, 06:25 PM

Once my tax return comes back from the Fed, I plan on ordering this

~Phil

**camiloteram** · 02-09-2007, 07:00 PM

Do you really need that?

**3literheater** · 02-09-2007, 08:41 PM

I cannot read the writing on the TB. Can you provide a link to it?

Thanks

**LuvMy328is** · 02-09-2007, 10:42 PM

It's the Riot Racing BBTB. It is 4mm larger than OEM and has a lighter butterfly for quicker response.

The Dinan is only 2mm larger than stock and costs more.

On M3 cars this makes 8whp. Since I am in M territory, I expect similar results.

An independent shop saw 4whp on a S50 car.

~Phil

**BMWFanatic** · 02-09-2007, 11:42 PM

^^^ nice! how much is it?

**CRYPTiC** · 02-09-2007, 11:48 PM

That can't be cheap ...

**deanbruhn** · 02-10-2007, 12:11 AM

OK I know alot of you guys know way more about these cars than I do since most of my performance motorwork knowledge is in vtwin cycles. But has anyone found a good balance between super high flow high rev motor work and producing low end power?

At some point you dont provide enough velocity for low end power and sacrifice low end power for high end power, imo these engines produce awesome high end power and why not try to smooth out the power band and get even gains instead of just opening up the intake and exhaust.

Not that getting rid of the TB for the ACS is a bad idea at all. Two mechanical stages is definitaly one too many. I think from 92 to 95 acs was an option BTW, as my 94 had it.

**3literheater** · 02-10-2007, 12:29 AM

Yeah turbo it.

**LuvMy328is** · 02-10-2007, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by BMWFanatic

^^^ nice! how much is it?

$200
~Phil

**japspecvr6** · 02-10-2007, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by LuvMy328is

There is no advantage to the 3.5" boot if you don't have a 3.5" HFM.
~Phil

nah i have a 3.5 hfm meter.......i just wanted to know if i will need an adaptor at the starting part of the TB

**LuvMy328is** · 02-10-2007, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by japspecvr6

nah i have a 3.5 hfm meter.......i just wanted to know if i will need an adaptor at the starting part of the TB

Nope, you should be fine

Sounds like a SICK setup.

~Phil

**japspecvr6** · 02-11-2007, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by LuvMy328is

Nope, you should be fine

Sounds like a SICK setup.

~Phil

Shit hopefully.......i just want my car to be punchy.......with little mods....,tell me something did you clog any of your holes on yur boot or did you use them...........

**LuvMy328is** · 02-11-2007, 03:13 AM

The advantage to buying this boot through Bimmerworold, is that they include two(2) bungs to plug the holes. I used one(1) since the ICV needs to connect to the boot. Trust me, it is a bit pricey, but well worth the investment. You get everything you need, plus top notch quality and durability since it's SAMCO.
~Phil

**MeisterKolby** · 02-11-2007, 03:29 AM

I guess if people have good success with it, then it must be good.

Just seems like $150 for a boot with 2 bungs is a bit pricey when you could easily fab up something similar for far less.

**LuvMy328is** · 02-11-2007, 03:41 AM

Originally Posted by MeisterKolby

I guess if people have good success with it, then it must be good.

Just seems like $150 for a boot with 2 bungs is a bit pricey when you could easily fab up something similar for far less.

You do make a good point, but again, please reference post 64

~Phil

**MeisterKolby** · 02-11-2007, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by LuvMy328is

You do make a good point, but again, please reference post 64

~Phil

Yeah ... I deserve that for not reading the whole thread!

**jamesclay** · 02-11-2007, 06:24 PM

We are working on a big TB - only really needed with cams in an M3 engine. More info in a month or two...

**japspecvr6** · 02-11-2007, 07:04 PM

hey james.......is there a discount for BFC members cuz i wanted to buy a samco boot from you guys......and will it need any adapter coming from the TB

**camiloteram** · 02-11-2007, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by jamesclay

We are working on a big TB - only really needed with cams in an M3 engine. More info in a month or two...

If it's for a m3 engine, why the hell would we need to know about it.

Oh I get it, he's teasing us m50/m52 guys.

**LuvMy328is** · 02-11-2007, 11:16 PM

Well hopefully us "heavily modded" M52 guys can take advantage of it. Honestly, I would but it just to say "I have a BBTB" lol If it was in that $200 the WCR TB, I'd stay with Bimmerworld. I have already made purchases from them and like the level of service I get with them. James, more info please!

~Phil

**M3rocker** · 02-11-2007, 11:39 PM

I guess this is my first post, but have been lurking here for a long time. This forum rules! I have been looking at this mod for a while, I see you can get a plain old OEM type boot for ~20 from the same site. Also, I seem to remember finding somewhere on the net, that you could use a boot from a z3 (don't quote me). I went looking for the link but could not find it. I really like the blue Samco one, but I could put the extra $ toward the BBTB. Great discussion tho!

**LuvMy328is** · 02-12-2007, 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by M3rocker

I guess this is my first post, but have been lurking here for a long time. This forum rules! I have been looking at this mod for a while, I see you can get a plain old OEM type boot for ~20 from the same site. Also, I seem to remember finding somewhere on the net, that you could use a boot from a z3 (don't quote me). I went looking for the link but could not find it. I really like the blue Samco one, but I could put the extra $ toward the BBTB. Great discussion tho!

Thanks for the post. I'm really happy people are getting soo much from this thread. Be sure to vote

~Phil

**BMWFanatic** · 02-12-2007, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by LuvMy328is

The advantage to buying this boot through Bimmerworold, is that they include two(2) bungs to plug the holes. I used one(1) since the ICV needs to connect to the boot. Trust me, it is a bit pricey, but well worth the investment. You get everything you need, plus top notch quality and durability since it's SAMCO.
~Phil

so if i have an obd1 do i just use both bungs to plug the holes up? i dont have an ICV right?

**jamesclay** · 02-12-2007, 12:51 AM

Sorry - that wasn't meant as a dangling teaser. I post in a few forums and saw that you were talking about the 3.5" HFM, so I was thinking M3. I am sure there are some 2.8 guys that could use it, but it would need to have something big like the Sunbelt cams. Most of these engines don't really benefit from the 3.5" HFM either until you are to the 250+ crank mark. The only time it is really needed is when you flow enough air to run out of metering capability in the stock 3" piece.

I would be happy to do the math on our TB when we get it wrapped, but it isn't a couple of mm bigger - it is a lot bigger. And to make power, you do need to maintain velocity (smaller opening).

**3literheater** · 02-12-2007, 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by jamesclay

Sorry - that wasn't meant as a dangling teaser. I post in a few forums and saw that you were talking about the 3.5" HFM, so I was thinking M3. I am sure there are some 2.8 guys that could use it, but it would need to have something big like the Sunbelt cams. Most of these engines don't really benefit from the 3.5" HFM either until you are to the 250+ crank mark. The only time it is really needed is when you flow enough air to run out of metering capability in the stock 3" piece.

I would be happy to do the math on our TB when we get it wrapped, but it isn't a couple of mm bigger - it is a lot bigger. And to make power, you do need to maintain velocity (smaller opening).

Sounds good. I am very interested in this mod, please update us when it comes out.

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