Is there really that big of a difference between a 5 spd. 318i and a 325i? Not top speed wise, just in general.
Thanks for any advice.
4cyl vs. 6.. Drive them and you can tell the difference pretty easily.
-Qaz
02 330i
Probably as big a difference between a M3 and a 325 as between a 318 and a 325.
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i dont feel so, my friend has a 94 325is 5 speed stock and i have a 94 318is and i drove his car and my car is just as fun if not more because of the weight difference and when you take the turn i notice a difference, plus you dont have to deal with the vanos going on you. His car doesnt feel like its faster than my car is just feels that he gets his power before mine. Its up to you but everyone and their mother has a 325 i say go for the 4 banger is you dont care about speed and if you think you do get a DASC or some sort of turbo i much rather have a fun 4 banger FI than a 325 just my opinion, im sure i would be saying go for the 325 if i had a 325 but its your call just dont rule the 318 out.
oh yea i also have a intake exhaust and jimc chip and i took out my spare tire lol every last hp or weight reduction counts.
Thanks for the responses!
I know comparing a 4 to a 6 is kind of like apples to oranges. But I found a '98 318i and a '94 325i for about the same price.
Anyway, as far as reliability is concerned, instinct tells me to go with the '98, I just don't want to regret it down the road and wish I went with the 6. However, I feel like I would have to spend some loot on repairs on the 325i ( a '94 must need some work) at the same time with the 318i, I could spend the money on mods.
Just thinking out loud
Any other advice would be appreciated.
It's 50HP stock difference between the M50 and M44 engines..
M50 189hp @5,900
M44 138hp @6,000
It's a big difference.. If you don't notice it, you aren't driving the car to it's full potential.
The fact that the 94 and th 98 are the same price should also be a hint that the 6-cyl is wort a bit more.. Still it is a tough call w/ the difference in years.
How many miles do each of them have? Test drive them both if you haven't already! It's you that has to live with the car, so you may as well just see what one you like more.
-Qaz
02 330i
So if a 325 only has 50 more hourse power then a normal 318, then a 318 Ti would be almost or as fast as a 325 because of the 400-500lb weight difference.
95 Ti
dude go with the 325. i have a 95 and ive never had a problem with it.
I have a 93 318i and it's a fun car to drive, but i'm ready for some more power and I wish i would have sprung the $ for the 6-cyl a few years ago.
93' - 318i, 76' - 2002,
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Where do you get this "400-500lb weight difference"? 325's weigh in at 3087lb, last I checked the ti (lightests of the 18's) was a bit more than 2600lb. 2822lb in 94, slimmed to 2745 by the 96 year. Even at it's best weight it's still only 342lbs lighter than my is.
Basically, no it doesn't mean that it'd be as fast. You also have to remember the 6 has a hellovalot more torque than the ti's and a broader power band.
-Qaz
02 330i
Wouldn't the hatch be awsome for the autoX?
Test drive them both.
When I was first shopping for a BMW, the salesperson told me just that. If you feel you can be happy with the 318, you can buy a much newer, lower mileage car (not usually the 4 yr spread you've mentioned, but still). If not, you have to decide how much you can spend to get as new of a 325 / 328 as you can afford.
The 318i handles great (the ti really great, but I didn't like the interior as well), but it didn't have the power I wanted for stop and go traffic.
I also have not had any problems with my car. How can the performance in a 318 be even close to a 325?!?! Doesn't make any sense.
DiscoTeknix - yes, the Ti is great in an autoX. Kos-motate gets one of the best times each time he's out racing.
98 and 94 almost being the same price? i dont know where you are looking at buying a car, but when i was buying my 95 318 it was almost the same price as another 325 i was looking at... here were the specs:
95 318i:
-53k miles
-5 spd
-no leather
-no cd
-$10k
95 325i:
-150k miles
-auto
-leather
-cd
-$8k
the 6 cyl really isnt that far off from the 4 cyl price-wise if you check autotrader or any other magazines/online sources. my dad who is the "real" owner of the car naturally took the 4 cyl over the 6 simply because of the lower milage and the 5 spd transmission. as far as features go, i now have leather and cd player and my car is just about the same as any other 325 cept for some with the extra onboard computer. i am 16, i dont need the extra power to run myself into a wall yet =D
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btw, i did notice that the miles on the 325 were drastically higher, but i took into consideration that the 2k price diff plus extra luxury options made up for it
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The 4-cylinder is a lot of fun because the max power is achieved at 6KRPM while the redline is only slightly higher, consequently you get a much free-er (sp?) revving engine. But the sound and the refinement of the M52/M54 is enough to make me want a 6-pot next time. As long as it's got the M44 engine (not the 8 valve M43) go with the 98 4-pot, it might not be as fast, but you won't be disappointed.
1998 Steel Blue BMW 318iS
my friend has a 96 (96 is a 1.9 liter 4)318, i used to have my 92 325 (non vanos, less low end torque) from lets say a 5 mpg roll...we would be even (my car was stock preformance wise except exhuast(lose low end)) till 3,000 and i was gone. with every gear i just kept pulling and pulling
the 318 is still a bimmer....its got mad handles
questionning handling shouldnt be a big question...as far as sport packages and stuff....u can always go aftermarketer to make each handle better
we both had 5 speed's, his 318 is fun to drive, we used to switch cars and drive around, its like a euro rice basically, think your going fast...but u aint, the 318 sounds like a wheezy donkey...the 6 banger bimmers sound.....awesome
screw the stock bmw cd player and speakers, they blow IMO....well my friends m5 stock system aint bad, lolz
i'd use those extra 2K's and find a lower mileage MANUEL E36 6 cycl., my friends 318 maintanence bills were about even with mine...he spent just as much keeping his bimmer as i did...mine also had almost double his mileage too
i cant say his 318 isnt peppy though....its fun to drive no doubt...but when my parents 99 auto toyota camry 4 banger pulled on his 318....2 times racing......my friend sure was embarressed
undercover camry race car
go with atleast a 325....
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if you get the 318, in 6 months to a year you'll be wanting more power.
get the 325, 50 more horses
Get the 325, definitly much more power than teh 318. Even with the 325 you will want more power. E30 318s are great cars, but the E36 has to much weight for such a small engine.
-Chris
haha, cant argue with that, its been 7 months now and i just now started wanting more horsepowerOriginally posted by nydog
if you get the 318, in 6 months to a year you'll be wanting more power.
get the 325, 50 more horses
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Originally posted by KtecR
haha, cant argue with that, its been 7 months now and i just now started wanting more horsepower
hehe
same here
and i have a 92' 320 =P (yea its 6Cyl) 150hp
the diff is huge imo its the way u feel the care beside the power
the sound of the engine is diff and the way the car act is diff
cant really explain but my dad had 98' 318 (115hp) AS and he offered to give it to me if i sell my 320
hehe
still have my 320
for the power
the diff is 75 HP pretty much
go for the 325 cuz the more hp the better
you even might wanna go for the m3 after a year or so
im gonna replace mine with 328 as as i find one
That's the truth...
I love my 325, but I would REALLY love to trade up to like a ~95 M3/2.
-Qaz
02 330i
The US got the M42....we never had the M43 like you guys on the other side of the pond. But what you say holds for the M42.Originally posted by DaveB
The 4-cylinder is a lot of fun because the max power is achieved at 6KRPM while the redline is only slightly higher, consequently you get a much free-er (sp?) revving engine. But the sound and the refinement of the M52/M54 is enough to make me want a 6-pot next time. As long as it's got the M44 engine (not the 8 valve M43) go with the 98 4-pot, it might not be as fast, but you won't be disappointed.
EX-NASA SpecE30 Racer---NASA Florida Certified Instructor
i have a 318is. ive had it for almost 3 years... take my word. GET AT LEAST A 325.. i wanted more power the first time i got destroyed at the street races.
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