Yes, of course!!!
Kind of, but I'm still confused.....
What is this about again???
great job!
+1 to sticky!!!
No, it is from a 6 cylinder. I don't know if there is a similar type of upgrade for the 4 cyl. cars. I am unaware of a difference in M42 and M44 manifolds.Originally Posted by InfernoRWD
~Phil
Madeiraviolett Bf.C club member #001
1996 BMW 328is Madeiraviolett/Dove Grey: 5 Spd, Sport, Cold Weather & Premium Sound pkgs.
3.5" ECIS/ITG intake -> Samco ASC Delete Boot -> DINAN TB -> M50 Manifold -> S52 Cams | Bav Auto Red-top ignition coils tuned w/ AA software, Dynomax Cats & Stromung exhaust UUC Pulleys & Clutch stop, FDM=Zionsville radiator, Mishimoto Tank, SAMCO hoses, Fidanza LTW flywheel & M3 clutch, UUC Evo3 SSK, 3.23 LSD, Koni/Eibach Adjustable Damper suspension, PUR RSM's & RTABs, CF Strut brace, UUC Swaybarbarians, Motorsport X-Brace, 17x8 Beyern Mesh wheels Hella CELIS projectors + 5k TRS HID's, Fog delete=Brake cooling duct, LTW wing, ///M Bumper & R. Diffuser
CCA Member #382557
#9 from the schematicOriginally Posted by 96alpine328i
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...24&hg=11&fg=40
you also should use a fuel or oil rated hose or the residual oil from the crank vent will eventually eat it and you'll be doing it all over again.
Eric Paul Eviston - 1 Piece Silicone Hose M50 Manifold Conversion Kit
******M50 Manifold Install Trouble Shooting Guide Here: www.m50manifold.com
'98 M3/4 - ECIS CAI, S50 Manifold, Conforti Software, 16" Spal Puller, UUC Pulleys, Fan Delete, UUC Stage 2 Fly w/M5 Clutch, UUC Blacks w/TMEs, X-Brace, GC RTAB shims, GC RSMs,
M Roadster lever, 245x40x17 all 4 corners, Drilled Zimmermans, Motul RBF600 and Redline Synth fluids. My Dyno HERE
My Website: www.m50manifold.com
My Email: info@m50manifold.com
but it would theoretically work on the 323 though...M52 engine, right? although I've never heard of it.Originally Posted by LuvMy328is
Thanks haha. I knew I had it rigged weird and thats probably why I'm getting a sorta rough idle and the CEL... and I used fuel and emission line that works well correct?Originally Posted by E36M3E
Cars:
<CENTER>1996 BMW 328i
Conforti Shark Injector
Eurosport Evo II Carbon Fiber Conforti Intake
M50 Manifold Conversion
More to Come...
1998 VW Jetta k2 (Rolled by myself)
Euro Sport Intake
Auto Tech Cam
Auto Tech 3" Stanless Steel Exhaust
Auto Tech Chip
Debadge Bonrath Golf Grille
Golf Euro Spec Headlights
1990 VW Corrado G60 ( Killed By A Tahoe)
</CENTER>
so whats the best conversion kit to buy right now... in terms of PNP and easiest install..??
As far as ease of install and solid support, the kit from Eurosport. There is also the GB for a kit that is a bit diff., but is less $$$Originally Posted by Zippylock
~Phil
Madeiraviolett Bf.C club member #001
1996 BMW 328is Madeiraviolett/Dove Grey: 5 Spd, Sport, Cold Weather & Premium Sound pkgs.
3.5" ECIS/ITG intake -> Samco ASC Delete Boot -> DINAN TB -> M50 Manifold -> S52 Cams | Bav Auto Red-top ignition coils tuned w/ AA software, Dynomax Cats & Stromung exhaust UUC Pulleys & Clutch stop, FDM=Zionsville radiator, Mishimoto Tank, SAMCO hoses, Fidanza LTW flywheel & M3 clutch, UUC Evo3 SSK, 3.23 LSD, Koni/Eibach Adjustable Damper suspension, PUR RSM's & RTABs, CF Strut brace, UUC Swaybarbarians, Motorsport X-Brace, 17x8 Beyern Mesh wheels Hella CELIS projectors + 5k TRS HID's, Fog delete=Brake cooling duct, LTW wing, ///M Bumper & R. Diffuser
CCA Member #382557
yes fuel/emisions line is what you need.Originally Posted by 96alpine328i
Eric Paul Eviston - 1 Piece Silicone Hose M50 Manifold Conversion Kit
******M50 Manifold Install Trouble Shooting Guide Here: www.m50manifold.com
'98 M3/4 - ECIS CAI, S50 Manifold, Conforti Software, 16" Spal Puller, UUC Pulleys, Fan Delete, UUC Stage 2 Fly w/M5 Clutch, UUC Blacks w/TMEs, X-Brace, GC RTAB shims, GC RSMs,
M Roadster lever, 245x40x17 all 4 corners, Drilled Zimmermans, Motul RBF600 and Redline Synth fluids. My Dyno HERE
My Website: www.m50manifold.com
My Email: info@m50manifold.com
Check post #4 or 5. Its the same post. I don't know why it duplicated.Originally Posted by Zippylock
Not sure which is easier to install but this one is cheap and seems to have everything ready for you to install.
'96 328i - K&N Short ram | Clutch stop | M50 manifold | Clears all around | HIDs | M-Tech bumper
Here's a video taken of a M50 manifold I installed into the silver E36 M3.
Camera car is also a E36 M3, and before the manifold the two cars were dead even, now after the manifold it's a whole nother story...
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Guy also posts on here under JuCo.
didn't watch the vid yet, but thats a great comparison right there on with/ with out M50 manifold if what you said is true...which i have no reason not to believe...good call!Originally Posted by M52 POWER!
Thanks so much for that video. I now have motivation to put it in after it's been sitting for 6 months, and I imagine gains will be even more substantial on an FI'd car.Originally Posted by M52 POWER!
That vid is awesome. The difference is huge. Its nice to have the comparision with ONLY that modification.
Thx to you M52 POWER.
'96 328i - K&N Short ram | Clutch stop | M50 manifold | Clears all around | HIDs | M-Tech bumper
I wish i could do the swap but... i already have the m50 manifold
Great Thread and thanks to eveyone for sharing their knowledge!
Just thought I'd share my thoughts on this mod for cars with an automatic transmission. This is what I have learned when I considered doing this to my car. A stock motor will have an power advantage until 5100rpm vs. the m50 modded motor. You can expect to lose 10-15 lb/ft of mid range torque. After the mod you will still be down about 10 lb/ft of torque to stock motor that has been sharked. If you add performance cams and appropriate cam software the stock motor loses its advantage at 4100rpm. So unless you are willing to do cams, software and the m50 it does not make sense to do this mod. Remember that the transmission software will force the car to shift at 6250rpm even if its been sharked (I have not found anyone who provides transmission software for my car). With the loss of torque at lower rpms and the 6250 rev limit, auto tranny cars will lose performance with m50 manifold.
I would also get rid of the Eurospeed Dyno graph. It looks to have been altered to favor the mod. We know that HP and torque are equal at 5252rpm. It appears the m50 HP graph should be shifted to right by 250rpm. This would then more accurately show the power losses at lower RPMs. At 4170 rpms the stock motor should have a 10hp advantage. Has anyone else has noticed the inconsistency of this graph? This thread should have a DYNO graph that accurately shows the gains and losses.
Just to be clear, I think this is a great mod for most cars.
Great thread and I hope this helps.
BUMP for sticky
Madeiraviolett Bf.C club member #001
1996 BMW 328is Madeiraviolett/Dove Grey: 5 Spd, Sport, Cold Weather & Premium Sound pkgs.
3.5" ECIS/ITG intake -> Samco ASC Delete Boot -> DINAN TB -> M50 Manifold -> S52 Cams | Bav Auto Red-top ignition coils tuned w/ AA software, Dynomax Cats & Stromung exhaust UUC Pulleys & Clutch stop, FDM=Zionsville radiator, Mishimoto Tank, SAMCO hoses, Fidanza LTW flywheel & M3 clutch, UUC Evo3 SSK, 3.23 LSD, Koni/Eibach Adjustable Damper suspension, PUR RSM's & RTABs, CF Strut brace, UUC Swaybarbarians, Motorsport X-Brace, 17x8 Beyern Mesh wheels Hella CELIS projectors + 5k TRS HID's, Fog delete=Brake cooling duct, LTW wing, ///M Bumper & R. Diffuser
CCA Member #382557
so I got my m50 manifold from a bimmer scrapper for about $50.
I have a euro model 328, but the diff between my m52 and m50, and you USA guys is the same.
now I want to get it installed. called my mac who did my tuning/dyno, and he told me to call a shop a few doors down from him to do it, and then he will do the tuning.
so I called this guy, and he rekons I need a m50 fuel rail too(not talking about fuel rail cover). Bull$hit or not?
Last edited by kabal; 06-12-2006 at 09:48 AM.
1998 E36 Euro M3/4/6 Aegean Blue/Ox Blood
2003 E46 M3 AW/Bl - sold
1997 E36 328i AW/DG - RIP
absolutely not needed.Originally Posted by kabal
Eric Paul Eviston - 1 Piece Silicone Hose M50 Manifold Conversion Kit
******M50 Manifold Install Trouble Shooting Guide Here: www.m50manifold.com
'98 M3/4 - ECIS CAI, S50 Manifold, Conforti Software, 16" Spal Puller, UUC Pulleys, Fan Delete, UUC Stage 2 Fly w/M5 Clutch, UUC Blacks w/TMEs, X-Brace, GC RTAB shims, GC RSMs,
M Roadster lever, 245x40x17 all 4 corners, Drilled Zimmermans, Motul RBF600 and Redline Synth fluids. My Dyno HERE
My Website: www.m50manifold.com
My Email: info@m50manifold.com
thats what I think too.
I know the euro and USA 3.2 M3 is a different motor, but as far as I am aware the m50 and m52 are the same for both regions.
another thing, is it safe to clean my m50 manifold that I just picked up with soapy water? or should I rather get some engine degreaser?
Last edited by kabal; 06-12-2006 at 10:24 AM.
1998 E36 Euro M3/4/6 Aegean Blue/Ox Blood
2003 E46 M3 AW/Bl - sold
1997 E36 328i AW/DG - RIP
Soapy water is what I cleaned mine with. It may not be as effective, but it certainly isn't dangerous.
~Phil
Madeiraviolett Bf.C club member #001
1996 BMW 328is Madeiraviolett/Dove Grey: 5 Spd, Sport, Cold Weather & Premium Sound pkgs.
3.5" ECIS/ITG intake -> Samco ASC Delete Boot -> DINAN TB -> M50 Manifold -> S52 Cams | Bav Auto Red-top ignition coils tuned w/ AA software, Dynomax Cats & Stromung exhaust UUC Pulleys & Clutch stop, FDM=Zionsville radiator, Mishimoto Tank, SAMCO hoses, Fidanza LTW flywheel & M3 clutch, UUC Evo3 SSK, 3.23 LSD, Koni/Eibach Adjustable Damper suspension, PUR RSM's & RTABs, CF Strut brace, UUC Swaybarbarians, Motorsport X-Brace, 17x8 Beyern Mesh wheels Hella CELIS projectors + 5k TRS HID's, Fog delete=Brake cooling duct, LTW wing, ///M Bumper & R. Diffuser
CCA Member #382557
Get one of those long wheel cleaning scrubby bendable baton things and a bunch of degreaser and go to town on that mofo!
inside and out?
then I can rinse it with soapy water followed by regular water.
sounds like a plan.
damn, cant wait to get it installed. and at the +- $50 I payed for the manifold, and the +- $125 for the install, its gonna be the best bang for buck mod ever
might have to wait until payday(25th)
Last edited by kabal; 06-12-2006 at 12:24 PM.
1998 E36 Euro M3/4/6 Aegean Blue/Ox Blood
2003 E46 M3 AW/Bl - sold
1997 E36 328i AW/DG - RIP
Yes, what is the best way to refirbish a M50 manifold taken from the scrap yard? Eric, you who sells refirshed manifold that looks like new, what do you do with it before selling them?
Thx
'96 328i - K&N Short ram | Clutch stop | M50 manifold | Clears all around | HIDs | M-Tech bumper
pressure wash inside and out...and then I coat them with oil and let them soak for a few days. the plastic soaks up the motor oil and returns to like new condition. after a couple days, wipe off the residual oil and you're done.Originally Posted by Sephiroth13
I have had the worst looking manifolds come out like new this way.
Eric Paul Eviston - 1 Piece Silicone Hose M50 Manifold Conversion Kit
******M50 Manifold Install Trouble Shooting Guide Here: www.m50manifold.com
'98 M3/4 - ECIS CAI, S50 Manifold, Conforti Software, 16" Spal Puller, UUC Pulleys, Fan Delete, UUC Stage 2 Fly w/M5 Clutch, UUC Blacks w/TMEs, X-Brace, GC RTAB shims, GC RSMs,
M Roadster lever, 245x40x17 all 4 corners, Drilled Zimmermans, Motul RBF600 and Redline Synth fluids. My Dyno HERE
My Website: www.m50manifold.com
My Email: info@m50manifold.com
so you just "paint" some motor oil on the outside after it is washed.
is it best to use a non-synthetic oil, ie the cheapest stuff you can find
1998 E36 Euro M3/4/6 Aegean Blue/Ox Blood
2003 E46 M3 AW/Bl - sold
1997 E36 328i AW/DG - RIP
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