E90 330i Vs. E36 M3

[jrhaile]

You bet... I'll even let you take pictures with your car next to my car, I hear E90's look better when next to E36 ///M's

Mitchell.. I'll be there with my Dinan E30 Turbo... I don't know his name, but the guy with the E90 and I are going to go out and run then I believe too after the picnic. But now I'm hearing there is a drive afterwards, so I dunno if I'll go with him. If I'm around, I'll record

My boss has a 330ZHP E46 and I beat him by 1-2cls from a slow roll to ~130mph in my E36. I beat E36 M3s by the same lenght. So if a new 330 is faster then a E46 ZHP, then this might be very interesting

[Blue330i2006]

Mitchell.. I'll be there with my Dinan E30 Turbo... I don't know his name, but the guy with the E90 and I are going to go out and run then I believe too after the picnic. But now I'm hearing there is a drive afterwards, so I dunno if I'll go with him. If I'm around, I'll record

My boss has a 330ZHP E46 and I beat him by 1-2cls from a slow roll to ~130mph in my E36. I beat E36 M3s by the same lenght. So if a new 330 is faster then a E46 ZHP, then this might be very interesting

Name's AJ
Will see you too. It is faster than the ZHP E46 but not even close to the M E46.

This is going to be a fun day. 2 guys get to see somebody beat on the new E90 330i. Glad it is still under warrenty!

[jrhaile]

Name's AJ
Will see you too. It is faster than the ZHP E46 but not even close to the M E46.

This is going to be a fun day. 2 guys get to see somebody beat on the new E90 330i. Glad it is still under warrenty!

Don't see that often, that's for sure. Everyone who buys them are usually "older" and don't even know where the powerband is I'm very interested in the E90 though and it's power. I'm going to need a new DD in the coming year so this was one of the cars that was on my list. If it's able to stick with, or even beat an E36 M3, then that's pretty impressive I must say.

Imo, unless the race reaches HIGH speeds, as you and I have talked about before, I don't think your car will win against the M3. Gearing will be your worst nightmare in a race to or around 120mph or so. Plus, when there is food involved this usually brings out the best in people like Mitchell and I

Edit: I figured out a way to disable my speed govenor in my car btw. I was able to rev 4th gear all the way out which should have put me at about 140mph or so. Only problem with how I did it, I can't tell how fast I'm going

[jworms]

M3 E36
Engine Code:
M50 B30

Cylinders:
24 valve in-line 6 (single VANOS)

Capacity:
3.0L


Power:
240hp @ 6000

Torque:
225lb @ 4250

Weight:
3175lb

Maximum Speed:
128 (Electronically Limited/Manual)

Acceleration:
0-60mph in 5.7 sec
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E90 330i

Standard Engine3.0L I6Standard
Transmission6 Speed ManualCylinders6
Horsepower @ RPM255@6600
Torque @ RPM220@2750
Curb Weight MT3417



300lbs heaver and 15hp more.

It will be a race.

the common theory is that it's 10rwhp for every 100lbs of weight difference. not only that, but now that you've got me thinking, i did race an e90 330 when my car was putting down stock numbers...and beat it by a car length and the gap was only getting worse as we gained speed.

but i guess we'll see what happens when you guys race.

[Blue330i2006]

Don't see that often, that's for sure. Everyone who buys them are usually "older" and don't even know where the powerband is I'm very interested in the E90 though and it's power. I'm going to need a new DD in the coming year so this was one of the cars that was on my list. If it's able to stick with, or even beat an E36 M3, then that's pretty impressive I must say.

Imo, unless the race reaches HIGH speeds, as you and I have talked about before, I don't think your car will win against the M3. Gearing will be your worst nightmare in a race to or around 120mph or so. Plus, when there is food involved this usually brings out the best in people like Mitchell and I

Edit: I figured out a way to disable my speed govenor in my car btw. I was able to rev 4th gear all the way out which should have put me at about 140mph or so. Only problem with how I did it, I can't tell how fast I'm going

I know I am out geared ( me 0-60 6.0 E36M 0-60 5.6) but I have met a couple down to earth guys and will be fun to play for a little bit and meet in person.

I will let you guys drive it if you want.

[jrhaile]

I know I am out geared ( me 0-60 6.0 E36M 0-60 5.6) but I have met a couple down to earth guys and will be fun to play for a little bit and meet in person.

I will let you guys drive it if you want.

I don't want to drive it. It'll make me want it I drove my bosses around for a couple of days and going back to my rough riding E36 and E30 made me wish for his car

[thbmwm3]

M3 E36
Engine Code:
M50 B30

Cylinders:
24 valve in-line 6 (single VANOS)

Capacity:
3.0L


Power:
240hp @ 6000

Torque:
225lb @ 4250

Weight:
3175lb

Maximum Speed:
128 (Electronically Limited/Manual)

Acceleration:
0-60mph in 5.7 sec
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E90 330i

Standard Engine3.0L I6Standard
Transmission6 Speed ManualCylinders6
Horsepower @ RPM255@6600
Torque @ RPM220@2750
Curb Weight MT3417



300lbs heaver and 15hp more.

It will be a race.

Yup, this should be a good race. On paper, the e36M3 has the slight advantage. 3175/240=13.229 lbs/hp. e90 330i 3417/255 = 13.4 lbs/hp. The e90 330i is carrying a little (barely) more weight per hp. Couple that with the slightly more aggressive/shorter gearing on the e36 M3, and the e36 M3 does have a slight advantage. Again, all ON PAPER. They seem so close that many other factors like driver/passenger weight, amount of gas, and obviously driver skill will make a difference.

My guess is that the e36 M3 will have an advantage in the lower speeds (<100 mph), and the e90 330i may have an advantage in the higher speeds. Can't wait to see the outcome.

[thbmwm3]

the common theory is that it's 10rwhp for every 100lbs of weight difference. not only that, but now that you've got me thinking, i did race an e90 330 when my car was putting down stock numbers...and beat it by a car length and the gap was only getting worse as we gained speed.

but i guess we'll see what happens when you guys race.

I have no doubt your car would put a hurting on an e90 330i. I still remember your videos against an e46 M3.

[thegman1234]

WOW your lighter car can beat a heavier car w/ longer gear ratios?!

Man, props to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a 6 speed have shorter ratios than a 5 speed?
Also question, could you smell him shifting gears? If not it's likely that he was in a higher gear, I know the way the e90's auto tranny works, my dad has one, I drive it more than him, I'm very experienced with the functions of it's transmission.
If he was in 5th, and you were in third, hell yeah you're gonna catch up to him. And it also sounds like he wasn't even racing you. Just 'cause he flew by you doesn't mean he wanted to play.

Just as a side note, in the long run, I believe the e90 330 has a higher top speed no? It is a six speed, but that doesn't neccessarily mean anything.

[Blue330i2006]

I have no doubt your car would put a hurting on an e90 330i. I still remember your videos against an e46 M3.

???? he is supposed to be stock ???

[jworms]

I have no doubt your car would put a hurting on an e90 330i. I still remember your videos against an e46 M3.

???? he is supposed to be stock ???

yeah, that was with my current mods ( http://bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=525521 ). i raced the 330 when i was stock except for a short shifter with which i ran a 5.49sec 0-60 time. we went from a roll too with similar results. the guy was cool afterwards too, we talked and he was pretty surprised at how fast my car was.

[viago99]

I'm bone stock.

[viago99]

this is Mitchel, on my buddies PC btw.

[thbmwm3]

please update with results.

[jrhaile]

please update with results.

Will do

[Juicy Double]

I'll spank any N/A E90 330 or 335.

what's done to your car that you will beat a 335? That thing should smoke a moderately modded e36 m3.

[Blue330i2006]

please update with results.

Well, We ran 'em.

Mitch has the video.

[mitchelrl]

The bikes beat us. But I'll keep you all in suspense until James uploads the vid =)

[Blue330i2006]

The bikes beat us. But I'll keep you all in suspense until James uploads the vid =)

Those bikes were MOVIN'

[BMWALDO]

Video!

[DakarE36]

Those bikes were MOVIN'

I think we shutdown around 178-180. Nice day...nice runs!

[Blue330i2006]

I think we shutdown around 178-180. Nice day...nice runs!

That was cool!!!

[jrhaile]

I just got home... 3 hours from Issaquah to Spokane... not bad. I'll upload the vids in a bit. I have to download them first...

[DakarE36]

I just got home... 3 hours from Issaquah to Spokane... not bad. I'll upload the vids in a bit. I have to download them first...

I can host if need be

[jrhaile]

^ I got plenty of bandwidth.. thanks though

I have it all downloaded onto my computer right now, but it's over 5gb total, so I gotta find the good clips...