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Heyyy guys,
Just thought this would intrested all the e30 lovers that want to do an inexpensive mod for about 3oo something sold on ebay!
Check this article out with DYNO sheet proven!!
http://www.autoaccessorystore.com/blowerinfo.asp
Tell me what you think!
Here is the ebay item for sale:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cold-...spagenameZWDVW
Last edited by bmwpower007; 02-16-2006 at 03:48 PM.
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it would overheat and stress my hair, and leave me with split ends... no thanks.
btw, that 'dyno sheet' looks like another excel doc posted on e30 tech... here's a tip: at around 5250 rpm, something 'magical' always happens on a dyno. I'm not seeing the magic.
Last edited by Febi Guibo; 02-16-2006 at 02:49 PM.
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Originally Posted by Febi Guibo
yeah at 5250 the lines always cross, that's how you can tell that this is a fake dyno sheet.
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That looks awesome. I'm going to order one for my E30 and the M Coupe.
Last edited by Ben Carufel; 02-16-2006 at 08:38 PM.
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I'm amazed someone hasn't come up with like, an electric vacuum mounted in front of the muffler...
or, in my case, an vacuum at the bottom of my ashtray... I'd be smokin' then!
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WOW!. Over and over you continue your immaturity! Why dont you go find like 5 year old kids and play with them. You and them have alot in common both immature which is exactly you. If you have nothing smart to say rather then put down people dont comment at all. You dont like my post dont read them IGNORE! People who put down other people means that have nothing better to do and are immature. Grow up! Get a life!
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yo, install it on your cabby and prove these hATerZ wrong!
...then stop by my place and bring some conditioner (b+b or paul mitchell plz.), I wanna feather-n-tease my bangs.
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I just placed my order...it should be here in just a few days.
Last edited by Ben Carufel; 02-16-2006 at 08:38 PM.
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Not always depends on scaling.But 90 % of dyno sheets are corrected to scaling that shows that magic interception at 5250. Aside from that .........look at the rpms on that sheet! LOL! thats no bmw especially not an e30.
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Complete B/S.
First off, that dyno sheet is not from an e30. Look at the rpms.
Second, as has been mentioned by Febi Guibo and meseetree the torque and HP lines almost ALWAYS cross at 5250 rpm or at least very close.
As for the supercharger itself...
They drain the battery, so fast in fact that you can only use it for a very short time before it kills your battery.
Not to mention I have heard you really get hardly more than 5hp gain, which makes sense. A tiny electric motor simply does not have the power to make much more from your engine. Think of it this way... How can a 1hp electric motor add 50hp? It can't. Diminishing losses, etc... You can get a little more because you are using it to acclerate another engine, but ultimately the power of the motor and the battery will not supply enough air.
Then there is simply the functional aspect...
Besides, based on what I saw on the page, if that is the complete kit, how do you stop the forced air from going OUT through the air cleaner? This will happen if the engine requires less air than the motor is providing.
Basically you are pumping air into a pipe with holes at each end, how much power do you think that will gain?
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HP is the result of torque and rpm, they should always cross near there. Corrected or not. Unless something is really screwy.
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...my haircare issues aside...
the reason this thing could never work is that breezing 'more' air into the intake (which this doesn't really do, either) is totally different than increasing the air pressure inside the combustion chamber...
a hairdryer isn't strong enough to boost the air pressure above atmospheric pressure
there is no free lunch; it's why ram air, cone kits (which I have, tres ghey), electric blowers, and all these other bolt-ons either don't work, have minimal or no gains, or retard performance.
This isn't hating, it's just like this:
learn the fundamentals of how your car works and start CONTRIBUTING to these forums...
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Firstly,
You are an idiot and I can prove that for sure:
1) Where does it say its a "REAL PERFORMANCE MOD" on anything I wrote on this forum
2) If you didnt notice I was posting information of a product of some kind and the word at the end of my title says WTF??? meaning is this true or fake. I just wanted people opions I never said this information to be accurate I was just pointing out to people what it said on his site.
Gets your facts straight! And go over bimmerfourms rules again.
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Well Just hook a solar panel up to it!!
lol
When will people learn that this kind of crap only belongs on a honda, because when you have a honda, the objective is to lose horepower and handling.
///M POWER
I wouldn't say hp is the result or torque and rpm: it doesn't really result from them, more like they are used to calculate each other.
Nitro, there's nothing magical about the 5250.
There is a very simple reason why they cross at that number.
Horsepower is a function of torque. Nothing more to it.
HP=(tq*rpm)/5250
So as you can see from the equation, hp and tq are equal at 5250.
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ha that dyno sheet looks like a 12 year old made it in 5 minutes.
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Looks like someone scanned in a drawing from a kid who has down syndrome
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LMAO! Not only does the "dyno proof" not have the horsepower and torque curves crossing at the mathematically required 5250 rpm, they cross a second time!
bmwmpower88: You posted a link to yet another electric supercharger that claims to give you huge gains and you expected to not get ridiculed? The most cursory search on any automotive forum would bring up page after page of people getting flamed for suggesting that they might actually work together with reasons why they don't. You also might want to ease up on the hypocrisy. You copy/paste the forum rules that state that there should be no personal attacks into the very same post where you wrote "You are an idiot and I can prove that for sure:"
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Dude, Im just posting information that is e30 related. Im not here to make enemies, I dont like people saying shit to me without reason just because they dont like me. And I couldnt care less. Actually you are right, being the same level as him makes me look bad too. Thats why im going to ignore his comments from now on.
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whoa, quoting myself... bad sign... did I switch meds?
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They just sent me the tracking number...says delivery is expected on Wednesday. I can't wait.
Last edited by Ben Carufel; 02-16-2006 at 08:39 PM.
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some simple math... a 2.5L motor is approximately 165 cubic inches.
the blower makes 250cfm at some pressure head. that is 36000 cubic inches.
the motor needs 41250 cubic inches at 1000rpm...go ahead, choke your motor!!!
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Please do the world a favor and die of SARS.
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Hey! We should get that Budget Beater from R3V guy to install this. LMAO!
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it's like $300, he'd never do it.
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