E36 Dyno Sheet Library

[byron]

To the 2 previous posters, your both getting stock numbers, and for the 2nd poster, that's a good thing considering yours is basically stock.

The the 325 guy, 166.8 (might as well say 167) @ the wheels hp is probably 2-3hp more than a 325 makes stock in perfect condition. It's not a reason to be mad or think anything is wrong w/your car, to be honest the chip and CAI would've only netted you 10rwhp at the most on the dyno anyway, so if an M50 dynos around 164-165hp stock, yes you should have like 5 or 6 more rwhp than shown on your dyno.

But we all know about the circumstances and factors contributing to things, whether the machine is calibrated perfect, whether theyre using a fan to blow into your intake, the type of dyno, how how it was that day, how hot your engine was that day, if you needed an oil change, had a bad or loose sparkplug, or if you had any number of other little weird things going on, it would explain that result. It's still higher than stock, 167 vs 164.

Maybe if you get a supersprint exhaust put on there and a performance crank pulley, you'd be seeing 177-180rwhp from your 325?

Personally, 225-250hp crank (190rwhp-215rwhp) is the most I'd ever want, its not that much but with the right gearing (# of gears, final drive ratio), that amount of HP will fly.. especially in a relatively light vehicle. I think I can get that much horsepower, somewhere inbetween those 2 numbers, with my M50 if I put M3 cams, the proper software, and a full breathing exhaust incl. headers & a fake catalytic converter that's actually a straight pipe of sorts, lol.

e36's are not relatively light....

[digger]

where are all the dynojet plots M50b25's with m3 cams and bolt ons making 200whp SAE corrected with run conditions (temp, RH and pressure) listed?

[Furious]

e36's are not relatively light....

agreed.

[ledzep244]

e36's are not relatively light....

Ummm......YES they are. Relatively means in comparison to the other cars out there. Go ahead and make a list of cars today, much less sedans, that have a curb weight of 3,000 lbs. Not even a corvette weighs that little. There are extremely few cars made in the last 10 years that weigh as little as an E36.

Its not relatively light compared to an Elise, but compared to the majority of cars on the road, yes it is.

[uuc328]

I love that torque curve!!! Are you using any software to go along with the physical mods?

and that was before the s50 cams and Shark SW.
i have been dying to get her back on the dyno now that those two have been added.

[byron]

Ummm......YES they are. Relatively means in comparison to the other cars out there. Go ahead and make a list of cars today, much less sedans, that have a curb weight of 3,000 lbs. Not even a corvette weighs that little. There are extremely few cars made in the last 10 years that weigh as little as an E36.

Its not relatively light compared to an Elise, but compared to the majority of cars on the road, yes it is.

add a few hundred pounds to that and it will be a little more accurate. the e36 is not a pig by anymeans but it is by no means a light car. fully loaded with fuel and fluids it is much more than 3000lbs....

[mattr328i]

add a few hundred pounds to that and it will be a little more accurate. the e36 is not a pig by anymeans but it is by no means a light car. fully loaded with fuel and fluids it is much more than 3000lbs....

1998 318i Curb Weight: 2954 lbs.

http://www.edmunds.com/used/1998/bmw...321/specs.html

[LutherBmw31]

1998 318i Curb Weight: 2954 lbs.

http://www.edmunds.com/used/1998/bmw...321/specs.html

I second that motion. 1992 318i Curb Weight: 2866 lbs

http://www.edmunds.com/used/1992/bmw...160/specs.html

[Dominguez]

for all the guys who are putting down ~200whp, how do you guys do against cars such as stock/lightly modded M3s, S2000, 350z, wrx and such?

[L3000C]

for all the guys who are putting down ~200whp, how do you guys do against cars such as stock/lightly modded M3s, S2000, 350z, wrx and such?

+1 how are you guys doing against these cars? im pretty sure sti`s would stomp on u though...

[Gary328i]

Faster than M3's on the track unless they have engine mods and suspension mods.

[uuc328]

i have freeway raced 350Zs, stock M3s and even a DINAN supercharged 325. in each case i pulled them but by no means destroyed any of them. i also ran a s2000 from about 20 up to 65 and didnt have any problems pulling ahead either.

[L3000C]

what are the 1/4 times..no one posted them.

anyone have full bolt ons, cams, intake, m50, exhaust, cam specific S/W and went to the strip?

[DeltaSix]

Year: 1995 325is
Build Date: 02/95
Mods: Afe Intake, Turner Chip, Remus Exhaust, No cats, Bav Auto Headers
Dyno Type: Dynodynamics
Dyno Conditions: Blue run: 65.8F Humidity: ?
Red run: 76.8F Humidity: probably less than ?
Gear Dynoed: 3rd (Auto )
Peak HP: 161 (SAE corrected)
Peak Torque:150 (SAE corrected)



Blue is bone stock, Red is with mods above. 5spd is coming next month.

[irollt5r]

for all the guys who are putting down ~200whp, how do you guys do against cars such as stock/lightly modded M3s, S2000, 350z, wrx and such?

Stock E36 M3 - can keep up for a little while, but the M3 just has too much torque in the low and mid-range to keep up. I've done fairly well keeping up with most stock M3s on the track (where the revs are up over 4500 rpm for 90% of the time).

Modified E36 M3s will pull on me right away.

Stock 350Z - again, will pull on me right away.

Stock WRX - depends on the year...obviously off the line it's all WRX, but at speed it's fairly close. I ran just about dead even from 60 to 110 with a stock '03 WRX.



This is based on my '95 325i with M3 cams, intake, exhaust, and software which makes 200 hp at the wheels.

[mattr328i]

This is based on my '95 325i with M3 cams, intake, exhaust, and software which makes 200 hp at the wheels.

have you dynod or is this just a guestimate? 200 seems a little high for those mods.

[irollt5r]

This is from a Dynojet. 72 degF. CF=1.00

202 hp/183 ft-lb

I'm also running a custom chip. My first dyno run with the M3 cams installed (before we tuned the software) resulted in 192 hp/175 ft-lb.

[ishkabobble55]

who made the custom chip for you?

[irollt5r]

My chip was done about 4 years ago using the dyno at ERT in Delaware.

[bene36e39]

Alright, here's what I got... the results are acceptable, but I'm not overly impressed. Dunno if my bad O2 sensors and old fuel injectors would make any difference.

BTW, my torque is getting killed, everyone else with the same/similar mods pulls at least 190ft-lbs of torque, what is wrong with mine???? Dinan s.w not putting up with s52 cams?

Year: 1996
Model: E36 328is
Mods that matter: s52 cams, obdI manifold, 3.23 lsd, dinan CAI, dinan stage II s/w, uuc exhaust, fan-delete
Dyno Type: DynoJet
Dyno Conditions: 80.52*F, 35% Humidity
Gear Dynoed: 4th
Peak HP: 203.13 (SAE corrected 1.02)
Peak Torque: 176.9 (SAE corrected 1.02)

Can someone tell me what's up with my disappointing torque?

[mattr328i]

^^thats really weird, isn't that about what your car had stock for torque?

[digger]

This is from a Dynojet. 72 degF. CF=1.00

202 hp/183 ft-lb

I'm also running a custom chip. My first dyno run with the M3 cams installed (before we tuned the software) resulted in 192 hp/175 ft-lb.

any dyno graphs/plots?

[Bryce M.]

What do you guys think of that trough in the upper rpm's, from about 5500 - 6500???? Is that normal? Has anyone seeh this before? All the dyno charts that I have been looking at have the power dying off at 6000 rpm's, and continuing downwards. I had the guys make another pull all the way to 7000 rpm, and it had the exact same trough, but the hp showed 178 @ 7000 rpm. Why is my hp starting to climb like it is? Could it be Vanos, it seems way to high in the rpm band to be Vanos though, but it has come up in conversation, so I thought I would ask?

The car is a '97 328is:
-shark injector
-underdrive pullies
-Conforti CAIS
-b&b tri-flow exhaust

[Gary328i]

Alright, here's what I got... the results are acceptable, but I'm not overly impressed. Dunno if my bad O2 sensors and old fuel injectors would make any difference.

BTW, my torque is getting killed, everyone else with the same/similar mods pulls at least 190ft-lbs of torque, what is wrong with mine???? Dinan s.w not putting up with s52 cams?

Year: 1996
Model: E36 328is
Mods that matter: s52 cams, obdI manifold, 3.23 lsd, dinan CAI, dinan stage II s/w, uuc exhaust, fan-delete
Dyno Type: DynoJet
Dyno Conditions: 80.52*F, 35% Humidity
Gear Dynoed: 4th
Peak HP: 203.13 (SAE corrected 1.02)
Peak Torque: 176.9 (SAE corrected 1.02)

Can someone tell me what's up with my disappointing torque?

I can sure tell you don't have the cam specific software. That dip at a little past 4000 rpm is a tell-tail sign of it. Check out my graphs - which show stock, modded without software and modded with software. It should be pretty obvious which is which. There's a good chunk of power still out there for you, again in the higher rpms, but very significant. Looks to be ~15ft-lbs and ~15HP @4400 RPM.

Gary

[sirpur328i]

There are some pretty impressive numbers by some of you guys!