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    IE subframe bushing time estimate

    Santa Claus (me) was good to me this year. I now have sitting in my garage: Single Adjustable Koni's, H&R sports, Ireland Engineering subframe bushings, a Bently service manual, and a stainless steel clutch line in estroil blue... to match my interior of course. Ya know!

    So anyways, I was hoping to get a feel from you guys as to how long each thing took you to install the first time on your Roady or Coupe? I am very limited with spare time due to my helo job so I need to spread load the installation of the parts. I'd hate to get deep into the subframe removal and get stuck without a car to get to work. So how long did it take you guys?

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    My time estimates, based on actual installations will probably be of no use to you...

    The first set of Ireland Subframe Bushings I installed took me about twelve (12) minutes. My subframe assembly was laying on my dealer's floor when I walked in with the bushings and proper tools in hand



    A typical installation, for me, takes about one (1) hour; but I already have the exhaust, swaybar and differential removed. The subframe comes off the studs much easier (sometimes it just drops off them) when the __offset__ weight of the differential is removed. Removing the differential is done as part of the other work I do, not a task I would recommend if only doing the Ireland bushings

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    Thanks Senor Randy. I went hog wild with my other new toy... my pro grade Crafstman grinder. I had to destroy the rust that formed due to my subframe tear. After blasting away all the stuff that was intended to "cover up" the weld, I'm thinking that this is a job best left for a guy like you. Hopefully I'll be headed your way soon.

    1 hour... I don't think so. My air compressor isn't big enough to keep the impact wrench running full tilt. That, and I'm still a little grasshopper. I need to gain wisdom.
    Last edited by ///Mmelmann; 01-02-2006 at 09:56 PM.

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    When I did mine, I was in Randy's garage following instructions, but I turned the wrenches. I would say it was about 2-3 hours with a pizza break in the middle.... is that about right Randy?
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    I did my subframe bushings in about 4 hours without the tool. I used the torch method!!!

    The stainless clutch line took me longer, I recommend spaying the connectors with PB Blaster at least a day before. I still stripped one of the connectors while using a the crow foot wrench. What a difference though!
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    I don't have a "pizza break". Is that a special BMW tool? How does it go in the middle? Middle of what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBgotM
    When I did mine, I was in Randy's garage following instructions, but I turned the wrenches. I would say it was about 2-3 hours with a pizza break in the middle.... is that about right Randy?
    Yep, two people = two hours; three people = three hours...

    Best advice is to not get too much help.

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    If you have not done one before, you will go slower. Assuming no issues with removing the bushing from the carrier, it will take 4 or 5 hours. It is a simple job, but there are a few tricks to be sure you watch for. When dropping the carrier off the studs, be sure it stays square or it will wedge itself and make it difficult to pull off or push on. There is a home made tool that works pretty well for pulling the OEM bushing out of the carrier. A number of persons who post on this board have one and may be willing to share or sell since they are not much use after the swap is complete. I produced 8 tools and sent them all over the US. Maybe someone will see and offer.
    Dan "PbFut" Rose

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    I think that I am going to light them on fire and do a little gij around them.

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    I have done a couple of pairs and I would say that it would take a person with decent mechanical skills and the proper tools about 3 hours assuming the proper tools are on hand. Have fun!

    BTW, It is always a good time to do the exhaust, diff and rear suspension at the same time as it saves a ton of time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ///Mmelmann
    I think that I am going to light them on fire and do a little gij around them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Purv944


    dude, that is nuts!
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    So you're looking at somewhere between 12 minutes and 25 hours. have fun!

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    ^^Hahaha yes!!!

    I halfway wanted to use the torch more than anything. Fire=fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoothsix
    So you're looking at somewhere between 12 minutes and 25 hours. have fun!
    I'm looking at a month ago is what I'm looking at. He he.

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