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  1. #176
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanks95 View Post
    wow, and i just thought it was as easy as paying $85 and getting a report. Next time i will have to choose another shop. So, basically all the above is just a big lie?

    thanks
    basically in a way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanks95 View Post
    Year: 1995
    Build Date: 03/94
    Mods: See Sig
    Dyno Type: Dyno Jet
    Dyno Conditions: 67.16 F; 19.36 in-hg; Humidity 11 - 12%
    Gear Dynoed: ?
    Peak HP: 233
    Peak Torque: 231
    The baro is the issue. That barometric pressure would be normal for about 13,000 - 14,000 ft. ASL. More likely it should be in the 29.5 - 30.5 range.

    The dyno isn't worthless, contrary to what's been said. It's probably within 2% of accurate.

    As for the guy who said uncorrected numbers are always higher, that is absolutly incorrect. Any time you have a correction factor greater than 1 your actual power is lower than your corrected power. Up here at altitude we frequently see 1.2 - 1.25 correction factors. Uncorrected = 200 whp, Corrected = 240 whp.
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    Car: 95 M3
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    Mods: Bav auto chip, Cosmo CAI, Custom Borla XR1 2.75" single pipe exhaust and track track pipe, UUC LTW/M5 clutch.
    Dyno Type: Dynojet SAE
    Dyno Condition: 55F
    Gear Dyno: 3rd
    Max Power: 227
    Max Torque: 215

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    Year: 1997
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    Mods: ECIS 3.0 CAI, M50 manifold (Eric's kit), Stromung exhaust, AA software, 91 octane gas
    Dyno Type: Dyno Jet
    Dyno Conditions: 65 F; 29.06 in-Hg; Humidity 27%
    Gear Dynoed: 4th
    Peak HP: 232
    Peak Torque: 220

    A/FR is from tailpipe sniffer, 82,000 miles.

    There is an odd misfire at 6500, the original redline. It runs fine right up to that point, then misfires badly, as seen in all three runs. I have not figured it out yet, but if anyone has any ideas, please PM me. The AA software, which I have had for about four years now, is supposed to rev limit at 7000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M3 Pete View Post
    Year: 1997
    Build Date: 07/97
    Mods: ECIS 3.0 CAI, M50 manifold (Eric's kit), Stromung exhaust, AA software, 91 octane gas
    Dyno Type: Dyno Jet
    Dyno Conditions: 65 F; 29.06 in-Hg; Humidity 27%
    Gear Dynoed: 4th
    Peak HP: 232
    Peak Torque: 220

    A/FR is from tailpipe sniffer, 82,000 miles.

    There is an odd misfire at 6500, the original redline. It runs fine right up to that point, then misfires badly, as seen in all three runs. I have not figured it out yet, but if anyone has any ideas, please PM me. The AA software, which I have had for about four years now, is supposed to rev limit at 7000.

    i really need to go dyno mine now that i have the AA software, it should be just about the same as yours + a few extra ponies. hopefully tomorrow i will have a chance


    that misfiring is very WEIRD. you say you've had the software for four years now, have you ever noticed the misfiring before (ie. on the street) your was it just while you were dynoing? i would call AA and email them the dyno files...

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    LOST POWER AFTER NEW SOFTWARE UPGRADE???

    http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?p=8530214

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    here's an update to my previous reply in this thread on how my car is coming along:

    taken from another thread i made in the e36 M3 section: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=687627
    please post all comments/replies in there.

    This is from the recent dyno day we had at Church Automotive. the dyno my car ran on was a dynapack 4000. i had run there before with my current mods minus the track pipe and was decently content with the results, but my A/F was all messed (too rich) and my car was misfiring. after lots of troubleshooting i came up with the idea to unplug my MAF...yes, you heard right. so i've been driving the car around without the MAF plugged in for quite some time and wanted to get it dyno'd...here's what i got (note: this dynapack typically reads between 10-15 higher than dynojets):


    as you can see i actually gained power...quite a bit actually. you'll also notice that there is absolutely no drop in torque anywhere with the addition of the track pipe.

    wanna see why unplugging my MAF actually helped me? here:

    look at my A/F differences between having the MAF plugged in and not having it plugged in (plugged in is the lighter lines).

    something else to notice is that after around 5500rpm my rwhp line kinda flattens out. i was talking to Church and he mentioned that it seems like the car is having breathing issues (either on the exhaust side or the intake) at higher RPMs. sounds logical to me, so i'm thinking i need to clean my air filter and possibly get some headers.

    ignore where it says flywheel hp, it's not flywheel numbers they are measured at the wheel hubs which is why it's 10-15 higher than dynojets. this is discussed briefly in the other thread i made (listed above).

    My current mod list:
    M50 Intake Manifold
    Conforti 3.5" CAI
    AA Custom Software
    3.5" HFM
    Fan Delete
    Strömung Exhaust
    UUC Stg2 Ltw Flywheel w/ Stg1 Clutch
    AA Track Pipe

    UPDATE: new dyno numbers found on page 9, reply #206... or click here here: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...48#post9468248
    Last edited by jworms; 05-07-2007 at 09:06 PM.
    UUC EVO III SSK | M50 Intake Manifold | Conforti 3.5" CAI | AA Software | 3.5" HFM (unplugged)
    Fan Delete | Strömung Exhaust | UUC Stg2 Ltw Flywheel | X-Brace | AA Track Pipe | 3.46 Differential


    1/4 mile: 13.3@104.2mph; 8.6 in 1/8; 2.04 60' | Best 1/8 mile: 8.3@83mph; 1.81 60'
    Dyno: 242rwhp/232rwtq
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    Stock S50



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    1995 M3 BMWCCA IP car w/ original S50
    125k miles on the bottom end
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    Eurosport Schrick Cam package w/ 540 MAF, 24# injectors, and Conforti chip
    BW silicone intake boot
    93 octane gas
    NGK BKR6EK plugs (stock)
    245 HP 213 TQ on a DynoJet
    Just did a compression test on the motor day after dyno and all cylinders are ~210psi (+/-5)
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    I am new to this forum, just getting started. I just installed an AA Stage 1 s/c kit using the Rotrex C-38. (1998 M3/4). On a dynojet I posted just about 300 whp and 251 wtq at about 38 degrees ambient temperature. Exhaust is still stock. Check engine light goes on and off every couple of hundred miles, so I still may have an issue with the engine tuning. My car was also tested in 4th gear. Was not able to get A/F check which is important. Some of these A/F posts are all over the place which doesn't sound right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedinfusion View Post
    Stock S50


    [IG]http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6328/afrhj7.jpg[/IMG]
    Flywheel hp?
    M50 * Bilstein PSS9 * UUC Sway's * PFlex LCABs/RTABs * TMS Delrin/Alum Diff Bushings * X-Brace * Stoptech SS Brake lines * CDV delete * DEPO with 55W 5000K HID's * 35W 5000K HID fogs
    Stock dyno: 201.7rwhp SAE corrected

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    would it be possible for somebody to get all these entries into some type of lists (turbo - NA) and this way we can see the year then Hp. for comparsion reasons.

    Reason why, is i would love to see where i stand when it comes to dyno power in this forum. (yet i understand people are on diffrent dyno's and weather conditions play a factor) The margin of error will be taken into concideration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erobinson View Post
    Flywheel hp?
    no, its wheel power, minus about 15-20....

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    Year: 1999 E36 M3 S52, 72K miles
    Build Date: 03/1999
    Dyno Type: Dynapack
    Dyno Conditions: 69.3F/20.7C, 29.53 in/999.9hPa, 32% humidity
    Gear Dynoed: 4th
    Peak HP: 215.2
    Peak Torque: 227.0

    (Sorry, system won't let me post images or links)
    Last edited by WilyB; 03-16-2007 at 11:23 AM.

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    useful conversion from dyno dynamics to dynojet, or dynojet to dyno dynamics

    http://www.to4r.com/calcs/pwtq.php
    cheers, Alan



    1/4 mile-12.92 @ 108.64mph-NA 3.0L m3 daily driver

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    Year: 1995
    Build Date: 04/95
    Mods: Eurosport/Conforti/Schrick package, shorty SuperSprint headers, stock cats, Stromung exhaust, underdrive pulleys, fan delete, 91 octane
    Dyno Type: Dyno Jet
    Dyno Conditions: ?
    Gear Dynoed: 4th
    Peak HP: 244.8
    Peak Torque: 221.3

    Compare - pre-cam to post-cam.

    Last edited by usm34me; 03-22-2007 at 12:33 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedinfusion View Post
    no, its wheel power, minus about 15-20....
    221whp on a stock S50? That's the strongest stock motor I've ever seen. You don't think that is a bit high with no modifications? I feel like I'm missing something here haha.
    M50 * Bilstein PSS9 * UUC Sway's * PFlex LCABs/RTABs * TMS Delrin/Alum Diff Bushings * X-Brace * Stoptech SS Brake lines * CDV delete * DEPO with 55W 5000K HID's * 35W 5000K HID fogs
    Stock dyno: 201.7rwhp SAE corrected

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    [QUOTE=speedinfusion;8684104]Stock S50

    clearly states on the graphs "flywheel torque" and "flywheel horsepower"
    cheers, Alan



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    Here's my old engine:

    Year: 1997
    Build Date: unknown (transplant from totalled car)
    Mods: OBD1 conversion, Sunbelt alt. pulley, underdrive pulleys, stock 3.0" HFM, K&N FIPK intake, AA chip, stock manifolds and cats, Borla cat-back exhaust, fan delete, 93 octane. No internal work.
    Dyno Type: Dyno Jet
    Dyno Conditions: cold outside - warmer in shop, probably 45 degrees
    Gear Dynoed: 4th
    Peak HP: 242
    Peak Torque: 223



    Will post new engine when it gets done and dyno'd.
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    Does anyone have a link to a dyno of an s50 with:

    Euro HFM, intake, Software, Stock injecters (otherwise stock)

    VS./OR

    Stage 3 cam kit (Euro HFM, intake, software, 24lb injectors, cams, otherwise stock)


    I know that many companies have their own dynos, but Id like to see 3rd party dynos for realistic comparitive purposes, especially seeing numerous examples of HFM kits (even with 24lb injectors) only putting down around 15 WHP.

    Thanks for any help

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    Car: 95 M3 Euro
    Production Date: July-95
    Mods: GT35R ball bearing turbo,Herrera chip,3,5" exhaust,Monster intercooler,HKS blow-off valve,Greedy gauges,Schrick cams.
    Dyno Type: Dynojet SAE
    Dyno Condition:n/a
    Max Power: 540
    Max Torque: 515
    Gear: 4th





    1995 Avus Blue Euro ///M3 - Garret GT35 - Giant intercooler - Schrick cams - 10.000k xenon eyes - 619whp dyno tested - R.I.P M6! 1996 740i 20" wheels and E30 318is with M3 upgraded engine.SICK!!http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=743415

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    nice numbers.
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    Heres mine.

    Dynoed in 3rd gear.



    I actually made 208.2wtq on the first run. They printed out the third run but as shown I made 228.39 whp/207.42wtq. Mods in sig.
    Last edited by savage217; 04-28-2007 at 10:14 PM.

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    Year: 1999
    Build Date: 11/99
    Mods: Custom CAI, M50 manifold
    Gas:93 shell
    Dyno Type: Dyno Jet Research
    Dyno Conditions: 50.78 F; 29.37 in-Hg; Humidity 20%
    Gear Dynoed: 4th
    Peak HP: 229.08
    Peak Torque: 221.66
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    update 4/07

    Year: 1995
    Build Date: 04/95
    Mods: Eurosport/Conforti/Schrick package, shorty SuperSprint headers, stock cats, Stromung exhaust, underdrive pulleys, fan delete, 93 octane update 4/07: Samco intake elbow, AA track pipe replaces cats
    Dyno Type: Dyno Jet
    Dyno Conditions: update 4/07: 65.9 F, 29.87 in-HG, Humidity 34%
    Gear Dynoed: 4th
    Peak HP: 244.8 update 4/07: 246.0
    Peak Torque: 221.3 update 4/07: 227.58
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