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Thread: E36 M3 Dyno Sheet Library

  1. #801
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    E34 M5, E36 M3, E90 M3
    297RWHP
    272 RWTQ
    on a Mustang dyno

    1998 M3/4/5
    3.3L Stroker
    Custom Schrick cams (the idle is unlike any engine I have ever heard)
    42lb/hr injectors
    M50 Manifold
    Euro MAF
    ATI Crank Damper
    Custom Carillo rods and pistons (forged, and dished to allow for full VANOS travel)
    Del-west titanium valves (+1mm size)
    Ported and polished head
    INA 309J lifters (lighter than stock by a few grams)
    Euro S50 oil pan and pump
    Schmiedmann E46 headers (modified to have v-bands)
    Supersprint X Pipe
    AA Muffler
    Stock throttle body for now, I will get ITB's and some real fuel (E85) in this car soon and get it back on the rollers to see the difference
    Dyno'd the car on Shell 91 octane with some Torco octane booster
    Tuned by HTE (fantastic tuner to work with btw)
    Dyno'd at Bains Tuning in San Jose, CA (also a great guy to work with and very accommodating)

    63971200766__64F250F4-F264-42FE-B997-17D031E0432F
    Last edited by Johal E32; 05-03-2021 at 06:04 PM.

  2. #802
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    ///M3
    Very nice! HTE tuning has been killing it. I will likely go to them for a revision of my current setup vs back to Epic.

  3. #803
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    '99 M3 vert, '07 X3
    LOL Wow... There's a fella' who went way beyond "bolt-ons"!

    Nice job! That's a pretty awesome torque curve.

  4. #804
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    '99 M3 vert, '07 X3
    1999 M3 Convertible
    137k MILES

    DynaPack dyno

    241.28 hp
    235.88 ft pounds

    Note I also did "proper" 5th gear pulls (1:1) and had slightly lower numbers. (229.23 hp 230.49 ft lbs)
    Since I had never been to redline since the last flash, the ecu seemed to be "learning" as the session went on. I had a higher number each pull right up until the very last (unfortunately 4th gear) pull of my 6 pull session... It was adding a bit more timing each run until you can see in the final one it pulled a little timing just after peak.

    Performance/Mechanical
    Removed CDV
    Stainless braided clutch line
    Aluminum thermostat housing
    Redline LSD diff fluid
    Redline MTF transmission fluid
    26 pound injectors
    AFE cold air intake
    3.5" Porsche MAF
    Smooth silicone 3.5" throttle boot
    Stromung cat-back
    BAV High power ignition coils
    Schrick cams
    Cut ring head gasket
    Dinan BBTB
    Upgraded valve springs and retainers
    UUC Evo 3 short shifter
    AA tune
    M50 manifold
    Dr. Vanos stage 2
    Air pump delete
    Stuart high flow water pump
    Thermostat controlled electric fan with shroud
    Mishimoto Aluminum radiator
    Mishimoto aluminum overflow tank
    Turner underdrive pulleys (water pump and steering only)
    Shorty headers (wrapped)
    Magnaflow high flow cat section (with H pipe)
    South Bend “Stage 3 street clutch”
    Steel single mass flywheel (16 pound)

    Traction/Handling
    All new/upgraded suspension bushings
    New Transmission bushings
    Bilstein shocks
    Turner sway bars
    Strut Bar
    Rear sway bar reinforcements
    H&R sport springs
    Thicker 25mm upper rear spring hats
    Stainless braided brake lines
    Cross drilled/slotted brake rotors
    Cool Carbon Street/Strip pads
    Rolled fenders
    AC Schnitzer Type III summer rims spaced flush
    Michelin Pilot Sport 4S summer tires (235/40/18 square)

    Comfort/Aesthetics
    ZHP weighted lighted shift knob
    Aluminium ///M pedal set
    New Condor Speed Shop clutch pedal bushing
    UUC clutch stop
    Depot glass HID projector headlights with 55W ballast
    LED bright Angel eyes (as DRLs)
    Clear corners, side markers and tail lights with “stealth” amber bulbs
    Euro M-Technic steering wheel with ///M stitching, chrome insert, and red top center line
    18 button OBC upgrade including stalk switch
    Colour match ///M leather armrest, shift boot, handbrake boot
    Colour match leather dash insert
    Reinhold Engineering one touch roof opening module
    Reinhold Engineering operate roof up to 50 kph module
    New Tension strap assisters
    AGM battery
    New soft top headliner
    Dynamat insulated hard top
    New alcantera hard top headliner with ///M stitching
    Upgraded alarm with comfort opening roof, motion sensor, and flip keys (UAS)
    Indyglow instrument cluster face
    Chrome guage surrounds
    Chrome vent surrounds
    Chrome oil cap
    Chrome shifter boot surround
    CD43 HU
    Grom USB/BT/Aux unit
    Extra guage package (oil temp, oil pressure, voltage)
    Bavarian Autosound "Stage 1" (rear only now)
    Morel Elate 503 Component front speakers (each driver separately amplified)
    Replace HK ib sub with sealed enclosure and Pioneer flat piston sub
    Rockford Fosgate P300.X1 sub amp
    Audiocontrol LC-1200.6 6x125W front stage amplifier
    Sound dampened trunk, back seats, and front footwells
    Clear third brake light
    Trunk lip

    4th gear dynoJPG.jpg

  5. #805
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    My Cars
    '97 Estoril E36 M3
    97' Estoril Blue M3, S52 with 187,000 kms

    DynoJet


    M50 manifold
    3.5" MAF (540i MAF)
    Custom cold air intake
    Silicone intake book
    ASC delete

    Stock headers
    AA section A/B
    US spec Eisenmann Race muffler

    Stock injectors
    Stock internals

    Tune from the sauce man at HTE Performance

    250.96 whp @ 6,650 rpm
    238.37 wtq @ 4,400 rpm

    Coming soon,

    Full SS euro headers, mid pipe, exhaust
    24 lb injectors and new spark plugs (see misfire blip in graph)

    Sent from my SM-G960W using Tapatalk
    Last edited by dragoshaba; 06-12-2021 at 03:31 PM.

  6. #806
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    skateboard

    E36 M3 Dyno Sheet Library

    Quote Originally Posted by dragoshaba View Post
    97' Estoril Blue M3, S52 with 187,000 kms

    DynoJet


    M50 manifold
    3.5" MAF (540i MAF)
    Custom cold air intake
    Silicone intake book
    ASC delete

    Stock headers
    AA section A/B
    US spec Eisenmann Race muffler

    Stock injectors
    Stock internals

    Tune from the sauce man at HTE Performance

    250.96 whp @ 6,650 rpm
    238.37 wtq @ 4,400 rpm

    Coming soon,

    Full SS euro headers, mid pipe, exhaust
    24 lb injectors and new spark plugs (see misfire blip in graph)

    Sent from my SM-G960W using Tapatalk
    If you’re looking for a tune for the next set of mods I have one from my car from when it was n/a
    Last edited by GG///M3; 06-18-2021 at 07:14 AM.
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  7. #807
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    '97 Estoril E36 M3
    Quote Originally Posted by GG///M3 View Post
    If you’re looking for a tune for the next set of mods I have one from my car from when it was n/a

    I appreciate it, however I am gonna tune on the dyno with my Tuner.

  8. #808
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    98 M3/4/5, RIP 528e
    I don't have a dyno chart to contribute yet, but I do have a few questions and was hoping to get some clarification.

    -My S52 has Riot Racing cams and an M50 manifold, among other smaller mods. I have heard conflicting info about when the stock MAF gets maxed out. There was a post somewhere in this thread showing what (apparently) happened to the stock MAF around 5700 rpm when it got maxed out. I understand going to a 3.5" MAF by itself won't gain power, but rather can meter correctly at higher volumes (and RPMs), so if the stock one is maxed out and not metering correctly, you can pick up lost power by retuning with a 3.5" unit. I guess I won't know without getting on a dyno, but can anyone shed light on when the stock MAF gets maxed out? I see lots of the higher HP cars in here are running them, but very little, if any, info on why they installed it and what the results were.

    -Someone posted up about comparing the Turner shorty headers to some Euro replica long tubes (IIRC) and the Turners had much better mid range torque (+30) and only slightly less peak HP (-6). I'm interested in area under the curve and not peak HP numbers, so the Turners sound appealing. But what I didn't see was an A to B comparison of the Turners to stock OBD2 manifolds. Do they actually gain TQ and HP over stock? Some people have said they do, while others say they lost torque.

    -What's up with the BimmerWorld Track Pipe Kit (Link)? Is there a reason it goes from 2-1-2 pipes like that? Does anyone know the size of the piping before the merge? Is it 50mm or 60mm? Does anyone know if this kills mid range torque to gain top end HP? How restrictive are the factory cats really?

    -I was poking around the TRM Tuning site and came across an article about adjusting cam timing while on the dyno (Link). I have never seen this mentioned anywhere else. It certainly sounds like it could be very useful, but I'm having trouble wrapping my head around what is being discussed and how it could be done without removing other timing equipment. Can anyone shed some light on this topic?

    Thanks!

  9. #809
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    1987 325is/s52 swap
    Quote Originally Posted by 95maxrider View Post
    I don't have a dyno chart to contribute yet, but I do have a few questions and was hoping to get some clarification.

    -My S52 has Riot Racing cams and an M50 manifold, among other smaller mods. I have heard conflicting info about when the stock MAF gets maxed out. There was a post somewhere in this thread showing what (apparently) happened to the stock MAF around 5700 rpm when it got maxed out. I understand going to a 3.5" MAF by itself won't gain power, but rather can meter correctly at higher volumes (and RPMs), so if the stock one is maxed out and not metering correctly, you can pick up lost power by retuning with a 3.5" unit. I guess I won't know without getting on a dyno, but can anyone shed light on when the stock MAF gets maxed out? I see lots of the higher HP cars in here are running them, but very little, if any, info on why they installed it and what the results were.

    -Someone posted up about comparing the Turner shorty headers to some Euro replica long tubes (IIRC) and the Turners had much better mid range torque (+30) and only slightly less peak HP (-6). I'm interested in area under the curve and not peak HP numbers, so the Turners sound appealing. But what I didn't see was an A to B comparison of the Turners to stock OBD2 manifolds. Do they actually gain TQ and HP over stock? Some people have said they do, while others say they lost torque.

    -What's up with the BimmerWorld Track Pipe Kit (Link)? Is there a reason it goes from 2-1-2 pipes like that? Does anyone know the size of the piping before the merge? Is it 50mm or 60mm? Does anyone know if this kills mid range torque to gain top end HP? How restrictive are the factory cats really?

    -I was poking around the TRM Tuning site and came across an article about adjusting cam timing while on the dyno (Link). I have never seen this mentioned anywhere else. It certainly sounds like it could be very useful, but I'm having trouble wrapping my head around what is being discussed and how it could be done without removing other timing equipment. Can anyone shed some light on this topic?

    Thanks!
    Curious to see your dyno results. When are you planning on going?

  10. #810
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    98 M3/4/5, RIP 528e
    Quote Originally Posted by Rugbyfan View Post
    Curious to see your dyno results. When are you planning on going?
    I don't have a date yet, but maybe by the end of the year.

  11. #811
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    My Cars
    '99 M3 vert, '07 X3
    Only one real change AA Stage 3 Supercharger kit installed (which includes even bigger injectors and a bigger fuel pump)
    Results matched the marketing claim. ��
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  12. #812
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    ///M3
    Quote Originally Posted by jamrobin View Post
    Only one real change AA Stage 3 Supercharger kit installed (which includes even bigger injectors and a bigger fuel pump)
    Results matched the marketing claim. ��
    image.png
    That's pretty impressive. Is that on an S52? How's it drive?

  13. #813
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    '99 M3 vert, '07 X3
    After 6 iterations of the tune, and some blown out and some collapsed vacuum lines being replaced with stronger silicone ones and routed away from heat... (drive for a couple days, report results or bitch about problems, bring it in for my tuner and AA to check it over and make changes, lather, rinse, repeat)...

    It's now solid as a rock... It's my summer daily, so I was very particular that it drive smoothly, start first crank, and idle well... aside from the obvious supercharger suction sound I don't think it would be noticeable to most people... If there's one little tweak still to come it would be a slight stutter at idle when fully warmed up... It has the Dinan BBTB, and large injectors and pump, so I think I may have to overlook that little quirk until I maybe think about a standalone ECU with faster/more processing power and more inputs... It's the stock DME (flashed by AA a bunch of times LOL).

    Never stalls, no backfires, consistent pedal response... A reliable (so far) daily... But it's going to be real winter here in the next few days so I will be driving my E83 X3 mostly for the next several months.

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