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  1. #776
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    Year:
    -1995 M3

    Mods:
    -OBD1 S52
    -RHD ITB kit
    -Sunbelt Stage 2 cams
    -Supertech dual valve springs and forged valves.
    -Supersprint Euro headers to custom 2.5" exhaust w/resonator and Flowmaster Hushpower muffler
    -Miller WAR tuned by Brody Miller
    -eBay flywheel and clutch
    -Turner pullies
    -24lb injectors
    Dyno Type:
    -DynoJet
    Dyno Conditions:
    -90 F
    -80% Humidity
    Gear Dynoed:
    -5th
    Peak HP:
    -271..34whp
    Peak TQ:
    -255.80wtq


    Here is the dyno chart showing the first pull (on previous map tuned in March of 2016) and the last pull (after fuel and timing adjustments).



    Last edited by darbyfam; 07-02-2017 at 12:30 AM.


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    Impressive. That's pretty close to stock E46 M3 numbers, with less weight and shorter gearing.
    1999 M3/2/5 - Titanium Silver - Track/Weekend Toy


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    '02 Corolla/'89 Volvo 740/'89 325is
    1997 M3/4/5
    92k Miles
    Bone Stock
    Dynojet Dyno

    207whp/217wtq

    I'm happy with it.

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    Year:
    -1995 M3

    Mods:
    -OBD1 S52
    -RHD ITB kit
    -Sunbelt Stage 2 cams
    -Supertech dual valve springs and forged valves.
    -Supersprint Euro headers to custom 3" exhaust w/resonator and Flowmaster Hushpower muffler
    -DIYAUTOTUNE MS3PRO PNP for E36 tuned by DIYAUTOTUNE
    -eBay flywheel and clutch
    -Turner pullies
    -24lb injectors
    Dyno Type:
    -Mustang
    Dyno Conditions:
    -90 F
    -80% Humidity
    Gear Dynoed:
    -5th
    Peak HP:
    -304 whp
    Peak TQ:
    -257 wtq
    Last edited by darbyfam; 08-04-2017 at 10:36 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 328iJunkie View Post
    The Dyno we use is DynoProven LLC
    http://www.yelp.com/biz/dyno-proven-llc-lawrenceville

    And keep in mind please dont take the 'Peak' numbers to heart solely as there will without a doubt be dynos elsewhere that will read higher or lower than this one. It is simply to show power band differences as well as the capability of these setups with proper tuning.

    "The Beater" My shop car: M52 w/ S52 cams and M50 manifold. Stock OBD2 headers and a nice exhaust setup.
    Before on Stock US 328 tune (but with mods) and then tuned after 4 runs. Low end still needs some work (playing with vanos)



    SpecE36 328: Customers track car build. Stock from airbox to headers, bimmerworld race exhaust after that. Stock then tuned.



    Another SpecE36 328, This one with stock midpipe and M3 muffler



    E36 328 Track Car: S52 Cams, M50 Manfold, Stock airbox and E36 Obd2 exhaust (including muffler) Stock tune vs tuned




    S52 E36 with M50 manifold, intake, stock cams, and a variant of bimmerworld race exhaust, before and after tune.



    The beater vs the 328 track car w/ M50/cams. Beater has 'intake/exhaust' vs stock e36 stuff on the other car. Note the significant low end differences but keep in mind these are two completely different cars...



    Beater full tune vs SpecE36 328 full tune.



    This is what an S52 looks like with WRONG cam timing, tuned it slightly off our off the shelf tune but the timing is freaking everything out (obviously)



    E36 328, Intake, catback and M50 manifold. Needs cams badly or the stock Intake manifold, off the shelf vs dyno tuned...



    Update 10/1
    M52 with M50 manifold before and after tune.


    (Eli)M52 with M50 manifold vs (Beater)M52 with M50 manifold and S50/52 cams


    (Eli) M52 with M50 manifold vs Stock M52 with tune


    2 Different M50's vs a M52 Stock (with our Tune), M50s are unknown whether they are chipped or what (we dont play with 413's. Despise them)


    Update 10/7
    Went to the dyno again yesterday to do another E36 M52, with M50 manifold and S52 cams. Had stock E36 OBD2 headers and midpipe, aftermarket intake and catback. Pre and post tune. (had an off the shelf shark injector before)



    Update 10/8/14
    Tuned a E46 M today:


    Update 11/5/14
    Alum M52 Z3 with S52 cams/M50 manifold. First run on off the shelf shark injector with cams timed wrong, 2nd run after fixing that and full tune, 3rd run was deleting the cat and making a better merge over the factory Z3 midpipe...



    Update 12/18/14
    M52, S52 Cams, M50 manifold. Dont have a 'no tune' run sadly. The fist run was on my off the shelf tune...
    This Pic is before and after fixing the vanos and changing the exhaust merge from a magnaflow crap one to a nice mandrel bent one and adding a muffler in place of a resonator.


    Off the shelf vs dyno tune (prevanos/exhaust work)


    Progression of before and after on each prevanos/exhaust and post. You can see the exhaust mod affected it slightly up top but it sounds tons better!


    S52 Dyno tune vs my off the shelf tune. Schricks, intake, 3.5" MAF, M50 manifold, 24lb injectors, stock E36 OBD2 headers, midpipe, and a UUC catback. Needs exhaust work badly to open it up. And again 3.5" MAF and injectors does nothing to add power, was already on car when customer purchased it.. Didnt get a base non tuned run




    Update 2/17/15
    Tuned a M54 swapped E30 today!
    Stock M54B30 with E36 OBD2 headers


    M54 Vs M52 with M50 manifold


    M54 vs M52 with M50 manifold and S52 Cams


    Update 2/25/15
    Tuned a powerdyne 5-5.5psi supercharged M50 mani S52. I had previously did a quick and dirty tune on it 4-5 months ago and thats the first run shown. The car then went from stock OBD2 headers/midpipe to a nice ~2.75" single w/mufflers and ebay headers which is run 2 on the same tune. I then retuned it from there.... MAF setup is now maxing out at ~6k where it was perfectly fine before the exhaust work. Thats the dip you see at 6k.


    Update 3/2/15
    Tuned another SC S52 and an S54 swapped E46 Touring we built.
    S54 325iT, pre and post tune

    Getting the AFRs where i want them


    Another S52 SC car. This one is a VF running 7psi through the stock E36 exhaust setup.
    This car we built with no tune that came with the blower and i tuned it from scratch. The first run is my base tune and then revising it to the final revision...



    S52SC's Versus S54



    Update 3/2/15
    Customer Car came in as OBD1 S52 with M50 manifold and a off the shelf Name brand chip for said setup i wont name. OBD2 headers and a cone on the MAF. Brought car to shop, threw OBD2 harness/ecu/sensors on it, changed nothing else and results are below

    Did 3 runs, based my other comparisons off the middle of the 3.



    Stock US Tune vs OBD1. Dip is from vanos shutting off early because of missing VSS...


    OBD2 Base vs OBD2 tuned


    OBD1 vs OBD2


    Here is the revisions on the OBD2. Playing with vanos after flashing my Off the shelf tune and tweaking slightly (bringing timing down as far as possible without affecting power). Back to back to back runs other than the ~1.2 min flash time.


    So basically ~10w/tq from going to OBD2 with no other changes. My off the shelf tune vs fine tuning it on dyno changed nearly nothing (other than fixing vanos bomb) as ive gotten the off the shelf tune pretty down after a while.


    Again there is the obvious possibility that the OBD1 tune could have been revised further to make the same numbers but my point still stands. This will be more reliable, smoother overall, and when it does mess up, give you meaningful feedback as to whats going on.

    3/20/15 Update
    Tuned another E46M3 With exhaust work (stock headers) and stock airbox

    Progression:


    And another M54B30 (this time in an E46) with no muffler, cone on MAF and stock everything else:


    3/27/15 Update
    Tuned an entry level IP car today. Had an AA tune on it from a few years ago. Tweaked a few things and we get magic!
    M50 Manifold, Intake, Stock headers, track pipe and catback, stock cams.


    Update 4/4/15
    Bone Stock 99 M coupe. Shark Injector vs MMW tune


    SpecE30 AFM tweak


    Update 4/7/15
    No tuning here, just a dyno to dyno comparison... Car is an M52 318ti, M50 manifold, S52 Cams, Headers, Exhaust, 3.5" MAF, BBTB
    A shops dyno in atlanta with their tune on it:


    Same car same tune on the dyno we use (Switched run to SAE because the other shops dyno is run on SAE):


    STD Run:


    4/23/15 Dyno Rental!
    Rented dyno for full day, dyno tuned a bunch of cars, baselined a few others. More to come later

    S54 Racecar Pre/Post


    10PSI SC M3 Tuned from Scratch so no real baseline if you will. Stock OBD2 Headers/Midpipe. Air to air intercooler VF V3

    The Earlier 5.5psi SC car compared to this new 10psi SC S52 M3


    SpecE36 M50. Bone stock from airbox to headers.


    4/29/15
    Tuned another ZM3 coupe with a Stock S52. This one has an M50 manifold though....

    ZM3 with M50 manifold vs the earlier ZM3 with stock manifold i tuned a few weeks ago. Obviously not the same car but dont see any low end losses from M50 manifold. Both cars (other than the one with M50 manifold) were bone stock from airbox to exhaust tips including ASC TB and all

    Good to see S52 w/ M50 manifold on factory tune doesn’t have any torque loss. ( last graph) Getting excites to install mine!
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    Think you could take a minute to edit your post (quote) so you dont take up 1/2 a page to say something?

  7. #782
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    E36 325is
    1994 325is
    Mods
    - M50 bored to 86.5mm with 89.6mm crank. (3.2)
    - Carillo 12:1 compression forged pistons
    - S52 cams, stock timing
    - M50 manifold
    - TMS under drive pulleys
    - Riot Racing BBTB
    - Ebay headers, but stock restrictive obd1exhaust
    - RK OBD1 tune 413 red label.
    - 98 octane (93 with a can of Turco)
    Dyno: mustang dyno
    Conditions: 88 Fahrenheit, 77% humidity
    Gear: 4th
    Results 234 whp/ 224 wtq.

    If you read the runs, run 004 had 10ftlbs less torque but the same has run 003. I swapped in a TRM chip for that run.
    Really happy with these results considering I built this engine on my dining room table. Engine now has over 10,000 miles on it.

    Time for some cams and a exhaust.



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    TT Stg2 M3, 17 S1000R
    Year: 1997 M3
    Build Date:N/a
    Mods:9:1 Built motor - forged internals
    Technique Tuning stage 2 turbo kit
    3 in exhaust w/ e-cut out
    stock intake manifold
    Southbend Stg 5 clutch
    Dyno Typeyno Jet
    Dyno Conditions:86 degrees/58% humidity
    Gear Dynoed:4th
    Peak HP:352
    Peak Torque:392

    1st pull - 8 psi
    2nd pull - 8 psi w/ electric cut out open
    3rd pull - 12.1 psi

    Tuned for 13 psi/91 Octane but moved to Hawaii (92 Octane here) so need to dial in my eBoost 2 controller.
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    M52 Crank, Cams, Pistons, Rods:

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    1995 M3
    S50 powered
    172k Miles
    Mods: Euro SS reps, Euro m3 spec race x pipe SS, scorpion race Euro m3 spec muffler, afe intake, RK tunes tuned in person.

    244.9whp
    241wtq

    Graph show before exhaust mods. Then exhaust mods without tune, and then with a tune.




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    1987 325is/s52 swap
    Year:
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    Mods:
    -Obd-1 s52, 60k miles
    -21.5 injectors
    -Uuc clutch/fly
    -Kamotors 4in intake-540 maf-silicone elbow-RR throttle body-m50 manifold
    -Riot racing cams
    -Trm tune
    -Tms shorty headers-twin down pipe-x-pipe-stromung
    -Rebuilt Vanos
    -Every electrical sensor/plugs is/are brand new
    -220psi across all 6 cylinders
    -3.46 diff
    Dyno:
    Mustang
    Temp/humidity: 84deg/~90%
    Gear 5th
    232whp/221wtq

    Will post graph when able. The scale on the left side (for power/torque was not proper (I.e.not for 100-250) and I need to call them for a reprint. However peak numbers are accurate and afr’s looked decent (slightly rich at 5,200rpm).

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    s52b32
    m50 intake
    68mm throttle body
    s50 exhaust manifold
    kn panel filter
    one run showed
    247 HP
    310Nm
    vmax off, 7100 rpm
    +18hp and 32Nm
    WHP it said like 211 as start, and 226 at the end. not sure if its showing good.

    here a video of acceleration
    13.5 approx 0-160

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysx7cYDOr3Y

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    Quote Originally Posted by GG///M3 View Post
    1995 M3
    S50 powered
    172k Miles
    Mods: Euro SS reps, Euro m3 spec race x pipe SS, scorpion race Euro m3 spec muffler, afe intake, RK tunes tuned in person.

    244.9whp
    241wtq

    Graph show before exhaust mods. Then exhaust mods without tune, and then with a tune.




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    That's just exhaust work and a tune? Pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LockDots View Post
    That's just exhaust work and a tune? Pretty good.
    Yes sir, and that tune/injectors are for sale. Maf as well
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    So at the end i did this with pretty precise GPS
    0-62 /100kmh 5.48s
    1/4 mile 13.7

    Cold weather outside , some slip in 1st, normal road.
    Probably could do more on track
    Trap speed 103mph




    Quote Originally Posted by shmajser View Post


    s52b32
    m50 intake
    68mm throttle body
    s50 exhaust manifold
    kn panel filter
    one run showed
    247 HP
    310Nm
    vmax off, 7100 rpm
    +18hp and 32Nm
    WHP it said like 211 as start, and 226 at the end. not sure if its showing good.

    here a video of acceleration
    13.5 approx 0-160

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysx7cYDOr3Y

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    Year: 1998
    Build Date: 1997
    Mods:
    BMW E36 M3 S52 Engine
    Ported Head
    Dinan BBTB
    M50 Manifold
    WSTATUS Tune
    Bimmerworld Race Exhaust Y-Pipe and Midpipe
    Strömung Muffler
    Dinan Carbon Fiber Cold Air Intake
    Turner Power Pulleys for Water pump, Alternator and Power Steering Pump
    Dyno Type: Mustang
    Dyno Conditions: 70*F 20% Humidity
    Gear Dynoed: 4th
    Peak HP: 251whp
    Peak Torque: 232






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    Last edited by golgo13; 09-30-2022 at 06:05 PM. Reason: This motor had a ported head from a previous owner, which explains the numbers

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    98' stock everything
    Peak HP: 223
    Peak Tq: 246


    But for some reason the cut off was always at 6200 rpms, any reason why? Done on a dynojet.
    Last edited by Lolthisguy; 05-08-2019 at 12:58 AM.

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    Latest dyno test
    253.7 did a decat single 3" exhaust /19kg lighter/
    Wheel setup
    BBS RC303 8.5x18 et38
    front 225 40 18
    rear 245 35 18
    70-150kmh 3rd gear pull 8.64s - best was 8.46

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fttGfyVUGi4

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    E36 M3 Dyno Sheet Library

    1997 M3

    S52

    M50 Manifold

    Dinan TB

    AFE Intake

    Porsche Maf

    24lb Bosch injectors

    Schrick 264/256 cams

    Raceland Rep SS euro spec m3 headers

    Euro m3 SS resonated midpipes

    Euro m3 SS race muffler

    219k miles on the car 51k miles on the s52

    261 whp

    247 wtq

    Tuned by RK tunes

    Last edited by GG///M3; 10-31-2020 at 07:32 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GG///M3 View Post
    1997 M3

    S52

    M50 Manifold

    Dinan TB

    AFE Intake

    Porsche Maf

    24lb Bosch injectors

    Schrick 264/256 cams

    Raceland Rep SS euro spec m3 headers

    Euro m3 SS resonated midpipes

    Euro m3 SS race muffler

    219k miles on the car 51k miles on the s52

    261 whp

    247 wtq
    Ohhhh!
    That's exciting and encouraging! I have almost identical mods... except subtract for stock cats/midpipes, different headers and exhaust... and add for electric fan and power pulleys (except alternator) and a Dr. Vanos "stage 2" refreshed vanos.
    I have been hoping to get to around 250 whp before jumping to a supercharger. You give me hope that I may be fairly close.

    I'm running AA tune, and you don't mention which tune you're running... I certainly assume it's not stock with all the bolt ons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamrobin View Post
    Ohhhh!
    That's exciting and encouraging! I have almost identical mods... except subtract for stock cats/midpipes, different headers and exhaust... and add for electric fan and power pulleys (except alternator) and a Dr. Vanos "stage 2" refreshed vanos.
    I have been hoping to get to around 250 whp before jumping to a supercharger. You give me hope that I may be fairly close.

    I'm running AA tune, and you don't mention which tune you're running... I certainly assume it's not stock with all the bolt ons?
    Sorry RK tunes tune. Car did have some old fuel in the tank(3 months old)
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  21. #796
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    Quote Originally Posted by GG///M3 View Post
    1997 M3

    S52

    M50 Manifold

    Dinan TB

    AFE Intake

    Porsche Maf

    24lb Bosch injectors

    Schrick 264/256 cams

    Raceland Rep SS euro spec m3 headers

    Euro m3 SS resonated midpipes

    Euro m3 SS race muffler

    219k miles on the car 51k miles on the s52

    261 whp

    247 wtq

    Tuned by RK tunes
    [Image deleted]
    The RK tunes website says OBD2 cars must run the 540 MAF, but you use the Porsche MAF (which I'd prefer to run as well). How did that work? Did you request it, or is the website listing a little out of date and it doesn't matter anymore?

    -Josh: 1998 S54 E36 M3/4/6 with most of the easy stuff and most of the hard stuff. At least twice. 271k miles. 1994 E32 740il with nothing but some MPars. 93k miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blckstrm View Post
    The RK tunes website says OBD2 cars must run the 540 MAF, but you use the Porsche MAF (which I'd prefer to run as well). How did that work? Did you request it, or is the website listing a little out of date and it doesn't matter anymore?
    I did indeed request it for my setup.
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  23. #798
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    1995 M3
    Year: 1995 S50B30US
    Build Date: 2021
    Mods: JE 11.5:1 pistons, Eagle rods, S52 exh manifold, MS3Pro ECU on MAP, UUC cat-back with stock mid pipe, AFE CAI, 24lbs injectors
    Dyno Type: Dynojet
    Dyno Conditions: 60degF
    Peak HP: 239.92hp
    Peak Torque: 224.26ft-lbs

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    Last edited by bimmerboy318; 03-06-2021 at 09:36 PM.

  24. #799
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    Quote Originally Posted by jakermac View Post
    I'm about to switch to a VAC75mm from my RRBBTB to see if the top end pics up at all. I'm also about to receive my custom header build from Zack at 22RPD.com. I'd be VERRYYY interested in cam info. I'm down 200cc from your motor, but if I could see another 20ft/lbs+ in the lower rev range, I'd be all over that! Is the motor solid lifter or still hydraulic?

    How did the 75mm throttle body work out? And those headers???? Tell us how they worked out

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    97 M3 tuned by 22RPD (Stage 2)
    113k 3.2L S52 OBD2
    Schrick 264/256 cams
    PowerGo Shorty Headers
    BimmerWorld Mid/Track Pipe
    Stromung Catback
    M50 Manifold
    Riot Racing Big Bore throttle body (68mm)
    ASC Delete
    24Lb injectors
    22RPD 3.5" MAF
    AFE Intake

    Dyno: Dyno Dynamics
    286.1HP / 282.9 ft/lb torque

    Last edited by M3Trike; 05-02-2021 at 06:05 PM.

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