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    E39 ** HID Retrofitting Guide Part 1** Sorry 56k

    Ok guys as promised heres the write up for the E39 DIY HID retrofit...

    You will need these following equipment:
    Dremel, with sanding head, grinding, and cutting
    JB Weld
    3M double sided tape
    Drill with a big drill bit
    2 - OEM H7 Bulb holders
    2 - 3/4 inch Elbow plumbing pipes
    A friend

    most of these can be found at your local automotive store, the elbow plumbing pipes can be bought at home depot for 39 cents each. OEM H7 bulb holders can be purchased at your local stealership for 13 bucks each if in case you mess up on the ones you have now.

    Ok step one...unplug your lowbeam adapter from your OEM H7 bulb holders.

    2)Then remove your H7 bulb and keep in a safe place...never know when you might need them.

    3)Bring out the dremel and attack the cutting tip to it.

    4)Cut the H7 bulb holder in half, right above the metal prongs that accept your H7 bulbs. Have a friend hold the H7 base for you while you dremel around it, this is much easier than doing it yourself and safer.






    5) when done cutting make sure to sand down the top part to remove the parts that are bulging out, also sanding helps the JB weld hold the bond ALOT better. Sand both top and bottom parts to achieve smoothness.

    6) After sanding put it aside and take out your 3/4 elbow plumbing tube, this tube is basically used as a makeshift lever to apply torque to lock your H7 base holder into the teeths of the housing. Without this it is nearly impossible to lock it in place.




    7) Take your drill with a big drill tip and drill a hole through the back of it, (have your friend drill, while you step on it to make sure it stays in place) to allow your HID wires and plugs through, Use grinder from the Dremel to widen the hole to accomodate the wires and plugs.



    Me grinding to widen the hole



    Continue to part two (Cant post all those images up at same time )

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    Part two

    8) put this aside for now and get mix the JB weld, apply JB weld to the bottom of the HID bulb holder and to the top of the H7 Base.
    **Make sure all surfaces are sanded before applying JB Weld, otherwise bond will not be strong enuff.**






    9) Wait 5-6 minutes to allow bond to become strong

    10) Take the 3/4 elbow pipe now and put your wires and plugs through first, use JB weld again on the bottom of the H7 base and the rim of the 3/4 elbow pipe. Again MAKE sure both areas are properlly sanded.




    11) Allow 10 minutes this time to dry, extra time is need to make sure bond is strong enuff to handle the torque applied to it when locking the base into the projector housing.

    12) Twist it in just like your regular H7 bulbs! Make sure the teeth is aligned so the elbow part comes up on top...



    Do the same for the other side.
    This mod took me and my friend 1 1/2 hours for first headlight, planning and doing everything along the way, 2nd headlight took only 30minutes.

    Before and after shots:

    LEFT: HIDS RIGHT: STOCK


    BOth HIDS installed


    Night shot


    Perfect HID projection, very fine cut lines and great color



    Much thanks to Grimpy, Dan, Habbie, EthiRtyNiN3, my friend Lon and all others who have contributed to this. I hope this guide will help you guys in the future if anyone decides to go the HID way. Thanks again!

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    o BTW here is where i mounted my ballast and igniter..i used the unused air intake filter cover on my passengerside, and on top of my air intake on my driver side.


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    Nice!! Maybe I will do the same..

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    haha you def. should! realllll easy...just takes some time and patience...

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    Dude, you got some girly hands.

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    lol your not the first to tell me that...i can be a hand model ^^

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    glad you finally went ahead and did it bro... told you it was easy...

    I didn't think about the leverage thing... looks like it made it alot easier to twist on though.

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    where did you get the HID stuff for this? what all HID parts would i need? that looks awesome. im thinking of getting some new headlights, but dont wanna spend the dough on HID ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by egertge
    where did you get the HID stuff for this? what all HID parts would i need? that looks awesome. im thinking of getting some new headlights, but dont wanna spend the dough on HID ones.
    Umnitza.

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    Talk to Habbie from Umnitza, he will hook you up, currently they sell Prolumens, they look great, i compared it to Xtec and dont see any difference at all..the only annoying thing with Prolumens i have is that it has a seperate igniter that you have to mount somewhere...as for equipment you can find the elbow tube at any Home Depot, make sure its 3/4 inch, Dremel at any hardware store (buy the multiple heads), and JB weld at any automotive store...

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    You won't be annoyed in 10 months when they are still working as well as ever

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    Nice!!! just found this thread and you just saved me a bunch of dough - I'm gonna retrofit my OEM xenon bulbs and ballasts onto a set of P39s. Thanks for putting this together!

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    the cutoff looks good.

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    Why not get the H7 based HID bulbs / Kit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fkong777 View Post
    Why not get the H7 based HID bulbs / Kit?
    That's what I was wondering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fkong777 View Post
    Why not get the H7 based HID bulbs / Kit?
    Good point...but good work nonetheless. One of your lights looks like it needs to be adjusted up or the other down though...from the garage door shot.
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    Great DIY. Thanks a lot.

    Something is wroing with before-after pictures. Can you repost them? I'm really interested in light pattern of xenon bulbs in halogen headligts.

    By the way, xenon bulbs you have used are usual D2S?

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    Gents, be ware of the "Check Low Beam" though. I did this on my E34, and I got the low beam error still... gotta find a EE friend and work up a relay to fix this problem - doable, just hassle.

    On my E39, I got a kit that was slightly more $$, but direct plug and play, no modification to bulb holders, etc, and no error codes. I have '01 525iT with stock halogen lights and with AE. Not sure if normal kit will throw a code, but this kit has a built in resistor. I saved some $$ on my E34, but now I have to figure out how to get rid of the message soon - it's annoying.
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    yeah, that annoying LBF error...

    i get that daily with the lights on and off (after a few minutes i suppose the diagnostics throw up that code if they don't sense bulbs installed)

    CWY M5> what kind of kit are you using? how did the kit fit in the weird H7 (with bulb holder) housings?

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    Good Job! I've looked into doing the same thing, but havent because I havent worked through a couple of issues yet. Here's the guestion: I see you've got projectors, so its less of an issue than it is with reflectors, but did you measure the distance of the filament (or light source on D2S) to the lens when you did the mod? I saw some idiot who did it with a honda lens, and he didnt take into account the filament distance, and the light was way up in everyones eyes. Bad mod!


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    CWY M5> Did you tap into 12V wire or just used the existing connector to power the new HID lights? According to visionbulbs installation guide, they recommend tapping into 12V but I don't know which wire to use. Unlike my E46, there is no 12V HOT wire source in the engine compartment in my E39.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koister2001 View Post
    CWY M5> Did you tap into 12V wire or just used the existing connector to power the new HID lights? According to visionbulbs installation guide, they recommend tapping into 12V but I don't know which wire to use. Unlike my E46, there is no 12V HOT wire source in the engine compartment in my E39.
    i just used the stock connect that was used for the stock halogen lights..plug and play baby!

    Quote Originally Posted by wbread99 View Post
    Good Job! I've looked into doing the same thing, but havent because I havent worked through a couple of issues yet. Here's the guestion: I see you've got projectors, so its less of an issue than it is with reflectors, but did you measure the distance of the filament (or light source on D2S) to the lens when you did the mod? I saw some idiot who did it with a honda lens, and he didnt take into account the filament distance, and the light was way up in everyones eyes. Bad mod!
    sorry for late reply...glad the thread is helping people. I didnt measure anything, i just stuck the HIDs in, like i said before it was purely plug and play. They are still running strong~

    About the H7 kit, i dont think Umnitza had any in stock at the time or they just didnt have them.

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    that is an h7 kit, notice the tab i circled in red. i have the same kit in my depos. difference is the hellas use that brown adapter that the bulb plugs into and then twists into the socket on the projector.
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