UUC Tranny mounts - which once(black/red)? tearing problem?

[oraph]

OKay.. no don't jump on me all at once. i realized this has been covered many times, but due to some new info that i read here, i feel this topic should be brought back up. I recently read some posts where people were saying their red tranny mounts were tearing. *** i cant seem to find that post now***

As far as i understand there are 4 choices:
black
black w TMEs
red
red with TMEs

Can the people that had their red tmes chime in?

Are the Black mounts w TMEs comparable to the Red without TME's? Are the red's without TMEs good enough and would the added TMEs bring more potential cabin noise/vibration?
If my M is moslty street car with a few track events a year, which should i mostly use.

Now i drive the car prety hard on the street (as it's a weekend car and i miss the thrill during the week) and notice the very sloppy tranny movement when trying to shift while leaning in a turn... i came pretty close to $$$ shifting several times and other times couldnt get the car in to lower gear at all due to tranny movement.

[JClark]

I have the red TMEs. There was an increase in NVH around 1900rpm or so which can be fine tuned by adjusting the nuts on top. They require 16ftlbs, but its impossible to get a torque wrench up there so you have to guess by trial and error. The increase wasnt real bad. Noticable but not obnoxious. With another adjustment I can probably eliminate it.

I havn't tried the black w/ TMEs, but I love the improvement from the Red TMEs. No moneyshifting worries when shifting spiritedly when the trans would normally move.

[giterdone]

I know when I get them I will get TMEs. But I woudl like to know teh difference between red & black. I just want whichever one is stronger. I won't mind NVH(can't member exact acronym, I asked a few days ago...I think noise vibration heard or sumptin) I know it means sumptin about noise inside, but I just want the stronger TMEs, I don't want to worry about $$$ shifting. I almost did it and it scared me.

[Stinky]

I have the Black w/ TME's and there is no added NVH(Noise, Vibration, Harshness)
I track my car as often as I can and never(knock on wood) got close to money shifting. The supposed increase in NVH w/ the red ones is what prevented me from getting them.

[giterdone]

I have the Black w/ TME's and there is no added NVH(Noise, Vibration, Harshness)
I track my car as often as I can and never(knock on wood) got close to money shifting. The supposed increase in NVH w/ the red ones is what prevented me from getting them.

Ahh I c. ALso I just looked on understeer and they say red/track or black/street when you buy them. Hehe that woudl've been easier for me to look at. hehe. But so Black ones w/ TMEs are still pretty stiff none the less?

Also thanks for telling me what the acronym was.

[hinzm3]

I've had the Reds with TME's on my car for over a year now. I've been really happy with them and didnt notice any tearing as I checked them a couple of months ago during my ssk install. I did notice a little more vibration in the lower gears at first but dont notice a thing anymore since I guess i'm used to it. I would just go for the REDs/TME's for a track/street car. It def made things a little stiffer.

There is no extra noise or harshness I just noticed some more vibration at first.

[shim]

I would just go for the REDs/TME's for a track/street car. It def made things a little stiffer.

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