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Thread: P0171 code showing up WITHOUT a P0174

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    P0171 code showing up WITHOUT a P0174

    I have been getting a recurring P0171 (Bank 1 lean condition) but I have not been getting the P0174 (Bank 2 lean condition) along with it. I assume this rules out a general vacuum leak like MAF/intake boot or DISA valve. But where would the leak possibly occur that only affects cylinders 1-3? Could the lean condition be a clogged injector on those three cylinders? I have also been getting a P0133 (O2 sensor slow response, upstream bank 1). I have recently replaced the O2 sensor when this code first came up (I used an OEM Bosch). Would this be a cause for the other codes or is it a response to the other codes? Thanks for your help.
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    Start by looking at the fuel trims for both banks. Do you have signs of a vacuum leak?

    With a hot engine at idle, look in the “Live Data” section of your scanner and record the 4 fuel trims, 2 short term and 2 long term. If any are >8% then you likely have a vacuum leak.
    Rev the engine to 3,000 rpm for 30 seconds and watch the short term trims.

    • If they reduce significantly, might even go negative, then it is confirmed that you have a vacuum leak to find. Smoke test the engine to find the vacuum leaks. Read: https://www.e46fanatics.com/threads/...#post-18615547
    • If they increase (larger positive numbers), then you have a fuel supply issue. Fuel pump or fuel filter.


    Check the bank 2 fuel trims and compare them with the bank 1 fuel trims. It could be that you have a bank 2 condition that is close, but not yet, popping the P0174 code.

    If only one Total Fuel Trim (bank) is showing a problem, then the problem is limited to that bank only. There are only a few items that are bank specific. They are:

      • Coil
      • Plug
      • Injector,
      • Inlet gasket,
      • Cylinder compression,
      • Exhaust gasket
      • Pre-Cat O2 Sensor,
      • Cat,
      • Post-Cat O2 sensor


    For example: a loose Pre-cat O2 sensor is an exhaust leak and it will cause lean codes as air gets in between exhaust pulses.
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    The p0171/0174 distinction is likely a red herring. Unless it is a coil, then it could easily be sensors or fuel pump or leak.

    Read this guide:
    https://www.e46fanatics.com/threads/...-more.1284608/

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