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    End of an era...for me

    Sold my M3 today after a total of 20 years of ownership...here's a mod/maintenance history of the car which has over 500 autocross runs on it...

    1997 BMW M3 – 91xxx miles

    Mods:

    Conforti cold air intake
    Conforti Shark Injector Stage I
    Supersprint cat back exhaust
    Turner underdrive pulleys
    B&M short shifter
    UUC DSSR
    UUC Transmission mounts
    X-Brace
    TC Kline Koni SA coilovers
    TCK rear shock mounts
    Motorforce Engineering (Vorshlag) camber plates
    Ireland Engineering strut tower brace
    Eibach sway bars with Turner adjustable links
    UUC Stage II lightweight flywheel with E34 M5 clutch
    Clutch delay valve removed
    Wheel stud conversion
    Stainless steel brake lines
    Apex ARC8 17x9 wheels
    LSD 3.46
    Oil pump nut secured

    Maintenance replacement/repair (thru the years)

    Windshield cowl
    Headliner
    Door panels
    Flex disk
    LCABs
    Motor mounts
    RCABs with GC limiters
    Radiator, hoses, belts + tensioner
    Oil pan gasket
    Rear main seal
    New clutch (85681 miles)
    Oxygen sensors
    Power steering reservoir and hoses
    Brake rotors/pads front & rear
    Radiator expansion tank
    ABS wheel speed sensors
    Driver's side window motor
    Tie rod ends

    Recent Maintenance:

    Passenger side door actuator
    Valve cover + gasket
    Replaced idle control valve & related hoses
    Fuel level sending unit
    Fuel filter
    Fuel tank breather valve
    Trunk gasket R&R
    Front lip spoiler R&R
    Spark plugs (895xx miles)
    R&R sway bar bushings
    Welded hairline cracks in strut towers and added reinforcement plates

    Recent preventative maintenance:

    Rear sub frame mounts R&R.
    Starter, cam position sensor, crank position sensor, cam chain, cam chain tensioners R&R.
    Water pump, water pump housing and thermostat R&R.
    All coolant/heater hoses and vacuum lines under the manifold R&R.

    Recent repairs:

    Replaced VANOS with DR VANOS unit
    Cam chain guides R&R
    Top end rebuild...new valves, valve guides, head gasket, skimmed head, intake/exhaust manifold gaskets, head studs, etc.

    Misc.

    Oil changed every 5k miles or one year whichever came first with Redline 10w40.

    Car purchased in early 2001, sold in 2013 and repurchased in 2015 with less than 2k miles added to the odometer.

    Sold for an even $25K...
    Estoril/Modena '97 M3...sold for the second time.
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    You only live once, and I'm running out of time...

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    Sorry to see you let it go, Gene. Hopefully, the new owner appreciates what he has.
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    Oh, it was you! Brian bought your car.

    He has a Boston Green coupe that I have at my shop pending an S54 swap. The current thought is to maybe use your Estoril instead as it is much nicer.

    Sorry to see you sold it. Hope you stick around!
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    Oh, so you have his BG coupe, small world. It was sad to see the car go, but it was time as the burden of keeping it nice was weighing heavy on my aging shoulders. I didn't realize how beautiful it was until I saw him driving it away, not perfect but very nice and a great driver...will miss it.
    Estoril/Modena '97 M3...sold for the second time.
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    Gene is your car going to the mainland?

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    Quote Originally Posted by golgo13 View Post
    Gene is your car going to the mainland?
    Just for an S54 swap if Brian chooses to use this car for that. After that it will go back to HI where Brian lives.

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    Gene I’ve learned a lot from you on here. Most importantly, “getting old ain’t for wimps”. Congrats on the sale. If I may ask, what happened between 2013-2015 that brought the car back t you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braymond141 View Post
    Just for an S54 swap if Brian chooses to use this car for that. After that it will go back to HI where Brian lives.
    That's neat. Will probably be the first S54 swapped E36 in the state here, AFAIK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nova1 View Post
    Gene I’ve learned a lot from you on here. Most importantly, “getting old ain’t for wimps”. Congrats on the sale. If I may ask, what happened between 2013-2015 that brought the car back t you?
    I sold the M in 2013 because I was struggling to get my toddler grandson into the backseat car seat owing to my bad back. Bought a new WRX and it was fun for a while, but I hated the turbo lag on our tight autox courses. After a couple of years my grandson could crawl into his car seat by himself I started to look around for an E46 M3. With none to be found I reached out to the guy that bought my car, he had sold it to his uncle to be used as a Sunday driver. Timing was right as the uncle was looking for a P car for his wife and the M was expendable, a deal was made and the car was mine again.
    Last edited by Gene V; 11-15-2022 at 02:28 PM.
    Estoril/Modena '97 M3...sold for the second time.
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    You only live once, and I'm running out of time...

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    so what's next car you are going to get (if at all)?

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    Don't need another car, son has an E30M3 and an E92 M3 that he'll share (though the E30 is retired)...maybe a new Ducati V2 Streetfighter to go along with my Speed Triple...
    Estoril/Modena '97 M3...sold for the second time.
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    You only live once, and I'm running out of time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gene V View Post
    Don't need another car, son has an E30M3 and an E92 M3 that he'll share (though the E30 is retired)...maybe a new Ducati V2 Streetfighter to go along with my Speed Triple...
    I thought you have a bad back =p. Awesome to hear about your son's collection

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmwstephen View Post
    I thought you have a bad back =p. Awesome to hear about your son's collection
    I do have a bad back, hence the interest in motorcycles with a more upright riding position...
    Estoril/Modena '97 M3...sold for the second time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Braymond141 View Post
    Just for an S54 swap if Brian chooses to use this car for that. After that it will go back to HI where Brian lives.
    Friend sent me a picture of my old car on a pallet at the airport...looks like it's on the way.
    Estoril/Modena '97 M3...sold for the second time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gene V View Post
    Friend sent me a picture of my old car on a pallet at the airport...looks like it's on the way.
    Brian said he'd be here Saturday with it. Looking forward to getting this car done right for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gene V View Post
    Oh, so you have his BG coupe, small world. It was sad to see the car go, but it was time as the burden of keeping it nice was weighing heavy on my aging shoulders. I didn't realize how beautiful it was until I saw him driving it away, not perfect but very nice and a great driver...will miss it.
    Sorry to hear you sold it, but to be completely honest (with myself especially), I've contemplated many times selling my hooptie as well. I just don't drive it enough, especially because it's set up more for track duty now with the R-compounds/track wheels on it and the removed passenger seat. My old ass just doesn't have the energy anymore to keep switching wheels around in my garage between street and track driving. I may either eventually sell it or possibly give it to my son once he's of driving age (only a couple years away!). If I end up selling it, that will certainly be a very sad day for me...

    One of the last remaining members of the E36 M3 original owners club...a dying breed indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braymond141 View Post
    Brian said he'd be here Saturday with it. Looking forward to getting this car done right for him.
    S54 swap I presume...
    Estoril/Modena '97 M3...sold for the second time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gene V View Post
    S54 swap I presume...
    Yep.


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    You yellow chromate zinc plated new damper bolts before install? Add 10k to the price, minus 10k if reused :p

    I think we need more photos, even though it sold.

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    Cleanest S54 I've ever seen

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    Hope the car is worthy...
    Estoril/Modena '97 M3...sold for the second time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIIDEWAYS View Post
    Sorry to hear you sold it, but to be completely honest (with myself especially), I've contemplated many times selling my hooptie as well. I just don't drive it enough, especially because it's set up more for track duty now with the R-compounds/track wheels on it and the removed passenger seat. My old ass just doesn't have the energy anymore to keep switching wheels around in my garage between street and track driving. I may either eventually sell it or possibly give it to my son once he's of driving age (only a couple years away!). If I end up selling it, that will certainly be a very sad day for me...
    Not that I have a dog in the fight, but I'd think the value of keeping it in the family would outweigh whatever you could sell it for.

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    I agree with that except in my case my son has one each E30 and E92 M3, so he wasn't interested in the E36. His son is 11 and though we've tried to interest him, it doesn't appear that he's gonna be a car guy...he wants to be an astrophysicist My three year old great grandson loves cars, but at his age they are of the hot wheels type...and I have the E36, E46 models, in addition to other BMWs/P-cars) for when he can appreciate them.
    Last edited by Gene V; 01-18-2023 at 07:33 PM.
    Estoril/Modena '97 M3...sold for the second time.
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    Sounds like 20 years of smiles to me. As someone just getting into Autocross with my 98 Estoril, what would you recommend for tires and mods that made the most difference?

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    Just this morning, I sold my last electric guitar. Why? Because I don't play it. So there I was with this young guy in the garage, and he's test playing it like it should be played, (and I really have no musical talent), and I was looking at the M3 sitting there next to the Corvette. I just don't drive it. It's time to go.. How to go about selling it? Bring a Trailer? Facebook ad? Just thinking about selling makes me dizzy... 27 years, and a lot of bloody knuckles... Maybe a package deal? The M3, all the BMW specific tools, the GT1, all the stock parts, the 5 speed transmission that's still wrapped up in plastic from when I put in the 6 speed? How do I value that? Ok, it's too hard, I'll stop now.

    Gene, sorry to hear you sold yours, but I know EXACTLY what you were thinking.
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