Results 1 to 21 of 21

Thread: Gripe of the day: BMW Part Prices insane

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Apr 2020
    Location
    Ankeny, IA
    Posts
    1,714
    My Cars
    96 BMW Z3

    Gripe of the day: BMW Part Prices insane

    Just called my local stealer to get the price on a bolt. It's P/N 52-10-8-399-598 (I think) and attaches the rear of the seat frame to the floor. I was floored when the parts guy said it lists for $38 and would take 3-4 weeks to get it from BMW. I can't find the part in the 96 group of RealOEM so it's tenuous on the p/n guess. So, probably better to just match it up at the hardware store.

    So, hi ho, hi ho, it's off the hardware store I go.
    Claude Berman, 96 Z3 Production Date 2/96 BMW CCA# 581686
    The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance. Socrates, 469–399 B.C.E

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Aug 2020
    Location
    elmira,ny
    Posts
    66
    My Cars
    1996 z3
    That part number shows a bolt that attaches the seat back to the bottom https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...06#52108399598
    I would assume that it is some kind of shoulder bolt.You sure thats the one you want? As I recall on my car there is a stud at the front of the seat and a bolt at the back to secure the seat to the floor.
    Last edited by PaulSK; 10-27-2021 at 11:41 AM.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Philadelphia, PA, USA
    Posts
    975
    My Cars
    2001 M Coupe, 2002 M3
    For safety items like the seat bolts, please make sure you buy the correct grade of bolt, otherwise, you could risk serious injury.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Posts
    12,462
    My Cars
    36 Cylinders
    https://www.onlinebmwshop.com/oem-pa...lt-52108399598

    It's cheaper at dealers that sell parts online. But the wait will be the same. It looks to be a special type bolt
    -Abel

    - E36 328is ~210-220whp: Lots of Mods.
    - 2000 Z3: Many Mods.
    - 2003 VW Jetta TDI Manual 47-50mpg
    - 1999 S52 Estoril M Coupe
    - 2014 328d Wagon, self-tuned, 270hp/430ft-lbs
    - 2019 M2 Competition, self-tuned, 504whp
    - 2016 Mini Cooper S

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Philadelphia, PA, USA
    Posts
    975
    My Cars
    2001 M Coupe, 2002 M3
    For safety items like the seat bolts, please make sure you buy the correct grade of bolt, otherwise, you could risk serious injury.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Apr 2020
    Location
    Ankeny, IA
    Posts
    1,714
    My Cars
    96 BMW Z3
    It's cheaper at dealers that sell parts online. But the wait will be the same. It looks to be a special type bolt
    I got two of those from FCP Euro (cheap) and I think you're correct as they were too small diameter.

    That part number shows a bolt that attaches the seat back to the bottom
    You are correct, wrong bolt. The original has no shoulder. Hopefully, I can match it up at the hardware store. But even if the bolt isn't as strong, I can at least get the specs and find it elsewhere.
    Claude Berman, 96 Z3 Production Date 2/96 BMW CCA# 581686
    The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance. Socrates, 469–399 B.C.E

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Posts
    12,462
    My Cars
    36 Cylinders
    You would probably be looking at 52108233497 an M10 bolt by 28.5 long. Unsure of thread fineness.

    https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=52_0807
    -Abel

    - E36 328is ~210-220whp: Lots of Mods.
    - 2000 Z3: Many Mods.
    - 2003 VW Jetta TDI Manual 47-50mpg
    - 1999 S52 Estoril M Coupe
    - 2014 328d Wagon, self-tuned, 270hp/430ft-lbs
    - 2019 M2 Competition, self-tuned, 504whp
    - 2016 Mini Cooper S

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Apr 2020
    Location
    Ankeny, IA
    Posts
    1,714
    My Cars
    96 BMW Z3
    Quote Originally Posted by 328 Power 04 View Post
    You would probably be looking at 52108233497 an M10 bolt by 28.5 long. Unsure of thread fineness.

    https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=52_0807
    I think you're correct.

    I just matched it up at the hardware store and it's course thread: 10MM-1.50 X 28.5 (I got X 30 as it was the closest match).

    My original bolt is not a flange bolt such as that shown for the PN at https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-1...uine-bmw-part/ My bolt is fully threaded and has just a tiny shoulder with a captured washer. I saw some flange bolts at the hardware store, but was a little worried the diameter of the flange wouldn't clear the rails on either side. If that bolt isn't fully threaded in, the seat mechanism jams and it wouldn't go fully back.

    The mechanic will chase the threads tomorrow and use one of my bolts (I got black steel and stainless steel) and I'll order the flange bolt for next time the seat's out.
    Claude Berman, 96 Z3 Production Date 2/96 BMW CCA# 581686
    The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance. Socrates, 469–399 B.C.E

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Arida Zona
    Posts
    30,108
    My Cars
    z3
    BMW hardware like this tends to be pricey (those are also technically a safety component so probably go through a lot more qualification in the supply chain which adds to the cost). The newer models use a lot of "one time use" bolts and fortunately those tend to be much more affordable...

    Going into my TENTH YEAR of providing high quality reproduction BMW fabrics!

    PRICE CUT on ALL FABRICS
    Offering the best prices on the best quality reproduction fabrics!

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Denver, Colorado
    Posts
    1,922
    My Cars
    MRster / Z4 M4i / X5 M50
    Is #7 in the link below what you are trying to find?

    https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=52_0807
    2002 M Roadster, Steel Gray Metailic, Gray Nappa Leather, Black Soft Top, Steel Gray Metailic Hard Top, TC Kline Double Adj Shocks with H&R Springs, Stromung Exhaust, SSR Type C Wheels. Looking for a new home.

    2022 Z4 M40i, Misano Blue Metallic, Prem Pkg, Driver Assistance Pkg

    2023 X5 M50, Phytonic Blue, Black Extended Merion Leather, Driving Asst Pro Pkg, Park Asst Pkg, Exec Pkg, Climate Comfort Pkg.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Jul 2020
    Location
    Richland, WA
    Posts
    157
    My Cars
    2000 Z3 M
    Not sure I would use stainless steel there. I believe stainless is weaker.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Apr 2020
    Location
    Ankeny, IA
    Posts
    1,714
    My Cars
    96 BMW Z3
    Quote Originally Posted by BimmerBreaker View Post
    BMW hardware like this tends to be pricey (those are also technically a safety component so probably go through a lot more qualification in the supply chain which adds to the cost). The newer models use a lot of "one time use" bolts and fortunately those tend to be much more affordable...
    Yes, I think, but we'll see when I get it. Just ordered from Turner Motorsports for exactly half the price (considering shipping) as my local stealer. I think my local stealer is either having a hard time surviving or just greedy since several other online BMW Parts dealers charge much less. Thank god for the internet, it keeps some competition in the market. That plus fast shipping options now (UPS, FedEx, etc.).
    Claude Berman, 96 Z3 Production Date 2/96 BMW CCA# 581686
    The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance. Socrates, 469–399 B.C.E

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Mesa, Arizona
    Posts
    976
    My Cars
    2000 Z3 M-Roadster
    Quote Originally Posted by cyberman View Post
    Yes, I think, but we'll see when I get it. Just ordered from Turner Motorsports for exactly half the price (considering shipping) as my local stealer. I think my local stealer is either having a hard time surviving or just greedy since several other online BMW Parts dealers charge much less. Thank god for the internet, it keeps some competition in the market. That plus fast shipping options now (UPS, FedEx, etc.).
    Thank ARPAnet, J.C.R. Licklider, Berners-Lee and many others.
    Tony
    "You can't sign away negligence."

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Location
    San Francisco, CA
    Posts
    1,138
    My Cars
    2001 Z3 3.0 Coupe
    McMaster has Class 8.8 bolts in the size you mention for $10 for a pack of 25:

    https://www.mcmaster.com/bolts/syste...x-head-screws/

    And Class 10.9 in packs of 10 for $7.44 (this would be the lowest class I would go with, and is equivalent to Grade 8):

    https://www.mcmaster.com/bolts/syste...x-head-screws/

    And Class 12.9 in packs of 10 for $10.67:

    https://www.mcmaster.com/bolts/syste...x-head-screws/

    They also have them in 28 mm if that's the length you would prefer.
    Last edited by kornfeld; 10-28-2021 at 04:26 PM.
    2001 Z3 3.0 Coupe--Sterling Gray/Sunroof Delete/5MT

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Apr 2020
    Location
    Ankeny, IA
    Posts
    1,714
    My Cars
    96 BMW Z3
    McMaster has Class 8.8 bolts in the size you mention for $10 for a pack of 25:
    Thank You!!!
    Claude Berman, 96 Z3 Production Date 2/96 BMW CCA# 581686
    The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance. Socrates, 469–399 B.C.E

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Tavernier, Florida
    Posts
    1,793
    My Cars
    '99 2.8&Mcoupe, '03 Mini
    I wish I had seen is earlier. I was in a U-pull yard and would have grabbed a couple of these bolts off a Z3 they have. Usually no charge for small hardware if you have other parts you're buying.
    -Donny

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Apr 2020
    Location
    Ankeny, IA
    Posts
    1,714
    My Cars
    96 BMW Z3
    Thanks, and you're fortunate to have a pull yard with Z3(s). Here in Des Moines, we do have a pull yard, but I've never seen a Z3 in inventory.
    Claude Berman, 96 Z3 Production Date 2/96 BMW CCA# 581686
    The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance. Socrates, 469–399 B.C.E

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Massachusetts
    Posts
    477
    My Cars
    2000 Z3 M Roadster
    At least hardware hs substututes. No substitute for things like the M differential bushing!

  19. #19
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    10,982
    My Cars
    Coupes...
    These parts aren't that expensive if you DON'T go to the stealership.

    You can get just about everything from aftermarket companies now, and those parts are literally the same parts made in the same factory.

    Never buy parts at the stealership, its always been a ripoff.

    If you must buy them, get them from an online store that specializes in parts.
    White is Right, Steel Grey is OK, but Estoril is the only color that truly matters.

    I like Coupes.

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Apr 2020
    Location
    Ankeny, IA
    Posts
    1,714
    My Cars
    96 BMW Z3
    Quote Originally Posted by mpire View Post
    These parts aren't that expensive if you DON'T go to the stealership.

    You can get just about everything from aftermarket companies now, and those parts are literally the same parts made in the same factory.

    Never buy parts at the stealership, its always been a ripoff.

    If you must buy them, get them from an online store that specializes in parts.
    I understand completely and normally do as you suggest. The only reason I checked with the Dealer this time was that I was in a hurry and hoped he'd have the part in stock. But $38 for a standard metric bolt is so outrageous I had to whine about it.
    Claude Berman, 96 Z3 Production Date 2/96 BMW CCA# 581686
    The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance. Socrates, 469–399 B.C.E

  21. #21
    Join Date
    Aug 2020
    Location
    elmira,ny
    Posts
    66
    My Cars
    1996 z3
    Auto wrecking yards are our friends.

Similar Threads

  1. New website to compare BMW parts prices. Try it!
    By OnTheFence in forum General BMW and Automotive Discussion sponsored by Intercity Lines
    Replies: 40
    Last Post: 05-23-2012, 12:45 PM
  2. BMW parts -- price comparison website
    By europaS6 in forum Pacific Northwest - US
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 01-24-2012, 01:55 PM
  3. BMW Parts Price List
    By mikejohnson786 in forum General BMW and Automotive Discussion sponsored by Intercity Lines
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 03-13-2010, 05:15 PM
  4. KO Performance - UPDATE on Genuine BMW Parts Pricing - MOSTLY UP :(... but a few down
    By KO SALES TEAM in forum Vendor Comments & Supporting Vendor Info
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 01-09-2008, 07:50 PM
  5. BMW parts prices to increase approximately 6%
    By Hammdy in forum General BMW and Automotive Discussion sponsored by Intercity Lines
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: 01-23-2006, 02:25 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •