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    We don’t drive Corvettes or modern cars. The E36 is only made better with 4S and sets a bar lesser tires can’t touch.

    They are fine in 8F to 105F here all year round. Some snow when I’m caught off guard but I have an X5 if weather is an issue for tires. I’m certain most of us have more appropriate cars for poor weather.
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    ... or snow tires, like you should if you're dealing with snow and ice even in something AWD.

    AND - wet is no excuse to get the AS. PS4Ss are fantastic in the wet.

    I just bought ASs for my E32 since PS4Ss were also backordered in one of the sizes for the MPars. They're fine, but they're a substantially different tire. Anyone who tells you they're the same is full of it or trying to get you to buy SOMETHING even though the PS4Ss you want are backordered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braymond141 View Post
    We don’t drive Corvettes or modern cars. The E36 is only made better with 4S and sets a bar lesser tires can’t touch.

    They are fine in 8F to 105F here all year round. Some snow when I’m caught off guard but I have an X5 if weather is an issue for tires. I’m certain most of us have more appropriate cars for poor weather.
    Maybe it's that my car has 320 rwhp, and a 3.38 diff, but under 50F and especially wet and chilly, Every max performance tire I've had on the M3 has lost a lot of grip. (not dangerous, but you had to be aware of increased stopping distance and less traction) Same with my old C7. I put a dedicated set of wheels and AS tires on it Oct 1. I'll probably do the same on the C8. I've found that the AS tires are noticeably quieter than the summer tires. (maybe it's because there is usually a lot more tread on the AS when I put them on.) But the Pilot Sports were loud, and the Pilot Sport AS3 were really quiet. Even Michelin says that you shouldn't use the PS4 under 40F... Granted, that's on a 19 and 20" rim with 305-30-20.. In fact just google Michelin tire cracking in cold weather.. The cup tires would crack the tread and sidewalls... That was just sitting on the transport train to Canada..

    And yes, when I know the weather is going to be crappy, I drive the Tacoma, or the wife's AWD Sportage.

    Anyway, I think the AS PS's are a great choice for most people if you actually drive the car in colder/wet weather... And yep, that's my opinion.. I could be wrong..
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    FYI - Discount tire is having a flash sale today. $110 off a set of Michelin's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johal E32 View Post
    FYI - Discount tire is having a flash sale today. $110 off a set of Michelin's
    Crap! I wish I saw this.

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    We just bought 4 MIchelin PS AS tires from Costco for 2006 330i. With $150 sale going on, they were $275 less than Discount.

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    I had some Conti DW I used for street driving and wet track days, they were great.

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    I am currently daily running Continental DWs up front, 225 wide and PS4s in the rear, 245 wide. I wanted PS4s up front but they were out of stock when I needed tires. I've previously run DWs on my Mini and loved them. They are still a great tire on the e36, only issue I've had with them is they hydroplane in heavy rain.

    For autocross I'm running Falken RT660s, 235 all around. They are absolutely awesome tires, not quite as responsive feeling as the G Force Rival but they have better grip and take the heat well from our heavy M3s on the autocross circuit.

    I would recommend all three tires.

    It probably isn't important to you, but for winter I run Good Year Ultra Grip Ice, it's a plenty capable snow tire that grips like a Blizzak but doesn't wear out as quickly as a Blizzak.

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    thanks for the comments all. going to buy a set of ps4s for sure at 225/45. maybe over thinking it but since I am going slightly off OEM spec, will there be a need to adjust tire pressures accordingly from factory recommended PSIs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmwstephen View Post
    thanks for the comments all. going to buy a set of ps4s for sure at 225/45. maybe over thinking it but since I am going slightly off OEM spec, will there be a need to adjust tire pressures accordingly from factory recommended PSIs?
    Curious why you're getting 225/45 instead of 245/40? Neither is a correct fit for the opposite axle, but at least the 245s give you more tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blckstrm View Post
    Curious why you're getting 225/45 instead of 245/40? Neither is a correct fit for the opposite axle, but at least the 245s give you more tire.
    It was per the recommendation of all the 95 squared setup owners here to run at 225/45 spec; especially for DS1 since its a 7.5 ish wheel all around.

    245 would make sense if it were on an 8" wide wheel which is what the 96+ DSIIs accomplished in the rear.

    I am sure the Ps4s grip technology would make up for the lost contact patch anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmwstephen View Post
    It was per the recommendation of all the 95 squared setup owners here to run at 225/45 spec; especially for DS1 since its a 7.5 ish wheel all around.

    245 would make sense if it were on an 8" wide wheel which is what the 96+ DSIIs accomplished in the rear.

    I am sure the Ps4s grip technology would make up for the lost contact patch anyway.
    Definitely the right call for 7.5s

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    For street driving I put on some Nankang NS 20. They are like $60 ea from Amazon when I bought them. I have them on E36 M3 and E 46 M3. Even did a session on track with them (LOL). They are also All Season. For standard street driving. They are perfectly fine. Quiet and handle well. I put Toyo's on for the track.

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