Page 30 of 30 FirstFirst ... 52021222324252627282930
Results 726 to 747 of 747

Thread: Transmission case sleeves, ZF 4HP22/24 EH valve body questions

  1. #726
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Japan
    Posts
    54,731
    My Cars
    11/88 E32 750iL+98 E36M3
    you are correct, 25161219152 7 pins https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...h/25161219152/ but in any case the switches are not interchangeable
    Shogun tricks and tips for the E32 series are HERE!

  2. #727
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    1,512
    My Cars
    1990/02 BMW 735iA M30B35
    This automatic transmission from 750iL model without adaptive transmission with 35 pins runs without wires where not connected in pins 7 and 9 of the automatic transmission TCM but it has EML module and Automatic Stability Control module. On M30 engine automatic transmission TCM pins 7 and 9 is connected with throttle position switch.
    IMG_0349.jpgIMG_0350.jpg
    Last edited by Annddrriy; 12-22-2023 at 12:40 AM. Reason: AGS and EGS

  3. #728
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    1,512
    My Cars
    1990/02 BMW 735iA M30B35
    But in any case the switches are not interchangeable because automatic transmission with AGS has different programming.
    The gear range switch are same in adaptive and non adaptive in 750 models and in 740 gear range switch is different of third gear and some other gear because it has 6 speed automatic transmission. 750 models has 4 speed automatic transmission but acting like 5 speed because it counts low forward gear as a first gear.
    Last edited by Annddrriy; 12-22-2023 at 12:42 AM. Reason: AEGS

  4. #729
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    1,512
    My Cars
    1990/02 BMW 735iA M30B35
    What is different between the engine ECU 1.7 Motronic and 1.2 Motronic in 750 models ?

  5. #730
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Japan
    Posts
    54,731
    My Cars
    11/88 E32 750iL+98 E36M3
    M1.2 Bosch end # 156 is the older DME version from start of production, the storage capacity for faults is also much more on the 1.7. 1.2 DME has 55 pins, 1.7 -352 DME has 88 pins.difference/details of the 33 more pins of 1.7 see ETMs. 750iL E32 M70/B50 88-90 0 261 200 156 Bosch Motronic M1.2 , 750iL E32 M70/B50 91--> 0 261 200 352 Bosch Motronic M1.7

    and the much newer DME 3.3 for the M60: Digital Motor Electronics DME M3.3, 8-cylinder M60, Following functions are adopted from the digital motor electronics:
    · Cylinder-individual fuel injection with correction facility "CIFI" (Cylinder Individual Fuel Injection)
    · Direct-fire injection system (static ignition distribution with 8 output stages)
    · Parallel ignition stage mode in the case of cylinder reference failure
    · Ignition circuit monitoring (primary and secondary circuits)
    · Idle control with two-winding actuator (ZWD)
    · Cylinder-selective, adaptive knock control with 4 sensors
    · Stereo lambda control
    · Load setting via hot-film air mass meter HFM
    · Incremental system for engine speed and reference mark signal
    · Cylinder reference by inductive pulse generator on camshaft gear
    · Engine torque limitation on automatic transmission vehicles
    · Engine speed limitation
    · Speed limitation by V-signal
    · Electrical fuel pump activation (EKP) with safety lockout function at speed zero
    · Characteristic map-controlled tank ventilation
    · ASC engine intervention (Automatic Stability Control)
    · Cylinder charge intervention with ASC throttle actuator
    · Drive-away protection via antitheft system (DWA)
    · Characteristic map programming
    · Idle CO adjustment (vehicles without lambda control)
    · Secondary air pump control for US models
    · Interface to AGS via CAN (Controller Area Network) data bus
    · Ignition timing (angle) intervention by adaptive transmission control (AGS)
    · Self-diagnosis and emergency operation characteristics
    Fuel injection control of DME M3.3:
    When the ignition is switched on, initially fuel is briefly injected once at all cylinders.Once the start procedure has been initiated, fuel is then injected cylinder-selective 1x per working cycle (2 crankshaft revolutions). The injection timing (ti) is derived from the programmed basic start injection quantity and the correction variables from the input signals for coolant and intake air temperature. Cylinder activation is based on the position of the reference mark signal. After few engine revolutions (dependent on the position of the camshaft and the start speed) the DME control unit receives the signal from the camshaft position sensor. Double ignition (one ignition during each crankshaft revolution) takes place until the camshaft position is detected. It can now be seen whether the ignition allocation needs correcting. The double ignition function is retained if the camshaft position sensor signal is not detected with the engine running. In this case, it is not guarantied that the ignition timing takes place within the working cycle.
    Acceleration enrichment is always activated when the load requirement of the driver (throttle potentiometer signal) and the engine speed render this necessary.

    Intermediate injection takes place at the cylinders which have already completed their injection time cycle. For the subsequent cylinders, the normal injection timing (ti) is extended for fuel enrichment. The DME M3.3 features cylinder-individual fuel injection CIFI. The term CIFI refers to individual activation of each cylinder.The system ensures that fuel injection of each cylinder is completed before the the inlet valve opens. An optimum fuel-air mixture and thus improved combustion with low fuel consumption is achieved in this way. The output stage of each cylinder can be switched off individually if there is a fault in the ignition or fuel injection system. These faults are then also stored in the defect code memory.

    Ignition system with static high tension distribution: A separate output stage-controlled ignition coil which transfers the high tension (up to 32 kV) via the spark plug connectors is provided for each cylinder. In this way changes to the ignition timing can be controlled rapidly and independently. The effective range for ignition timing control is increased due to the fact that there are no rotating parts.The camshaft sensor is used to ensure the correct firing order is maintained. On the basis of the engine speed and load signals, the DME control unit determines the ignition angle (ignition timing) which is output via the ignition output stages. This function also takes other input signals into consideration such as the engine temperature, intake air temperature, throttle position, knock control signals and adaptive transmission control signals. In the event of failure of the cylinder reference sensor (camshaft sensor), the system switches over to parallel ignition, i.e. the ignition coils of the individual cylinders are controlled with fixed ignition timing values during each crankshaft revolution.

    Ignition circuit monitoring: The task of ignition circuit monitoring is to detect misfiring cylinder-selectively (self-diagnosis) and to prevent damage to the catalytic converter. Exhaust gas emissions cannot deteriorate because fuel injection is cut out for the cylinder concerned. The secondary circuit monitoring feature operates with a "shunt" (resistor in the common secondary ground line of the 8 ignition coils).The voltage progression at the shunt is transferred to the control unit for each cylinder. If after successful ignition (cylinder-selective primary circuit monitoring OK.) the threshold voltage for misfiring detection (5V) is not reached, the defect code is set, the defect lamp activated (US models only) and the relevant injection output stage is switched off.

    Idle control: A new no-wear two-winding actuator is installed in the M60 engine as the idle actuator. The rotary slide valve in the idle actuator should only be tested by activation in conjunction with a tester or by shaking. The rotary slide valve must not be moved with the finger or with the aid of a tool such as a screwdriver for instance. Perfect operation could then no longer be guarantied. The idle actuator performs several tasks and is therefore an important component part in the intake air circuit of the engine. Small quantities of leakage air which occur, for instance, at leaking gaiters/bottles or varying gap of the throttle can be compensated by means of the idle actuator. During the engine thrust phase, the actuator opens completely and then closes shortly before reaching the idle speed. This prevents a high intake pipe vacuum and blue smoke (oil vapour intake via valve stem seals). During engine start, the idle actuator releases an opening cross section which is above the idle speed. This improves the engine starting characteristics. The idle actuator features an emergency operation opening gap which ensures certain emergency operation characteristics in the event of power failure. On vehicles equipped with ASC or ASC + T, the engine drag torque is controlled by the idle actuator (MSR function). The idle actuator opens if there is a risk that the drive wheels can come to a standstill. As a result the engine speed is increased and the engine drag torque reduced.

    Knock control: Tasks of the knock control system
    -Operation of an engine with knocking combustion over a prolonged period can lead to serious damage.Knocking tendency is increased by:
    · Increased compression ratio
    · High cylinder charge
    · Poor fuel quality (RON/MON)
    · High intake air and engine temperatures
    The compression ratio can also reach excessively high values due to deposits or production related scatter. On engines without knock control, these unfavorable influences must be taken into consideration in the ignition design by providing a safety distance to the knock limit.However, this results in unavoidable losses in efficiency in the upper load range. The knock control can prevent knocking engine operation.For this purpose, it retards the ignition timing of the cylinder(s) concerned (cylinder-selective) as far as necessary only when there is an actual danger of engine knocking. In this way the ignition characteristic map can be laid out to combustion-optimum values without having to take the knock limit into consideration.A safety distance is no longer necessary. The knock control system carries out all knock-related corrections to the ignition timing and enables perfect operation also with regular grade fuel (minimum RON 91).
    The knock control provides:
    · Protection against knocking damage also under unfavourable conditions
    · High efficiency due to optimum utiliisation of the fuel quality and consideration of the relevant engine status
    · Logistics advantages with regard to fuel availability
    · Lower consumption and higher torque over the entire upper load range (corresponding to the fuel quality used).

    Design of knock control system
    The M60 is equipped with a cylinder-selective, adaptive knock control system. Four knock sensors detect knocking combustion. The sensor signals are evaluated in the DME control unit.
    The knock sensor is a piezoelectric structure-borne noise microphone.It picks up the structure-borne noise and converts it into voltage signals.

    Function of the knock control system: If knocking occurs, the ignition is retarded for a certain number of working cycles and then gradually approaches the original value. Retardation can be controlled individually for each cylinder (cylinder-selective). Only the cylinder that is actually knocking is therefore influenced. If the knock sensor fails, a defect code is stored in the defect code memory of the DME control unit.In this case, the engine is protected by a constant retardation setting of the ignition timing.

    Installation location/conditions
    The 4 knock sensors are secured by means of 8 mm screws on the water jacket of the engine block between the two rows of cylinders.They are arranged such that one sensor monitors each of the two adjacent cylinders. Only screw locking compound may be used to lock the screws. Washers, spring washers or serrated lock washers must under no circumstances be used.

    Self-diagnosis of the knock control system includes following checks:
    · Check for sensor signal interference/line break, plug connector defective etc.
    · Self-test of entire evaluation circuit
    · Check of the basic engine noise level recorded by the knock sensors The knock control system is switched off if a fault is found during the course of one of these
    checks. The emergency program adopts the task of controlling the ignition timing. At the same time, a defect code is stored in the defect code memory. The emergency program ensures damage-free operation as of minimum RON 91.it is dependent on the load, speed and temperature of the engine. The diagnosis procedure cannot detect whether the plug connectors of the sensors have been interchanged.The engine can be damaged if the sensors are interchanged.Particular care must therefore be taken during service work to ensure that the sensors are connected correctly (see repair instructions).

    Stereo lambda control on models with catalytic converter: In order to maintain optimum efficiency of the catalytic converters, the system endeavours to provide the ideal air-fuel mixture ratio (Lambda = 1) for combustion.The system features 2 heated oxygen sensors (1 for each row of cylinders with relevant exhaust gas line = Stereo lambda control) which measure the residual oxygen in the exhaust gas and send corresponding voltage values to the control unit. Here, if necessary, the mixture composition is corrected accordingly in that the injection timing is varies. In the event of the oxygen sensor failing, the DME control unit takes over control with a fixed programmed substitute value (0.45 V). Since the oxygen sensors require a temperature of approx. 300 degrees Centigrade in order to operate efficiently, voltage is supplied to the heating resistors in the oxygen sensors via a relay.The DME control unit controls relay activation.

    Hot-film air mass meter: A heated area of the hot-film sensor in the flow of intake air is controlled to a constant overtemperature of 180°C with respect to the intake air. The intake air flowing past cools the heated surface and thus varies its resistance. The heating current which is necessary in order to maintain the constant temperature is the measurement variable for the air mass drawn in.The DME control unit uses this variable to calculate the injection timing. Important advantages:
    · Changes in air pressure (air density) are recorded
    · Temperature influences are compensated
    · No moving parts
    · Large measuring range
    · Low pressure drop in intake pipe due to low air resistance, thus improved efficiency of the engine. The hot-film air mass meter renders unnecessary clear-burning of the sensor after the engine has been shut down.Any dirt deposits on the surface do not influence the sensor signals directly since the protective film cleans itself due to the constant overtemperature.

    Tank ventilation on models with catalytic converter: The ventilation line of the fuel tank is connected to an activated carbon filter (carbon canister), in which the fuel vapours produced in the tank are collected.The activated carbon filter is connected by way of a further line to the air collector. A tank ventilation valve is integrated in this line. If the tank ventilation valve is opened the vacuum in the air collector draws in fresh air via the activated carbon filter. The fresh air flushes out the fuel collected in the filter and feeds it to the engine for combustion. Since this additionally supplied mixture influences combustion to a considerable extent, the tank ventilation valve is made up of a non-return valve and an electrically operated valve. When no power is applied, the non-return valve keeps the tank ventilation valve closed. The non-return valve prevents fuel collecting in the air collector when the vehicle is parked. The non-return valve opens as the vacuum in the air collector increases. Electrical activation (pulse cycle) is dependent on engine speed and load. A ventilation cycle (purge phase) begins as soon as the lambda control is active.After a cycle has been completed, the valve closes for approx. 1 minute (rest phase).

    CO-correction on models without catalytic converter: Correction can be carried out by a compensating value in the DME control unit. This CO adjustment can only be implemented by way of the corresponding diagnosis program.
    Adaptations:The fuel-air mixture formed in the intake tract requires a certain period of time until is reaches the oxygen sensor in the form of exhaust gas. This time decreases as load and engine speed increase. For this reason, the response time of the emission (lambda) control system is also dependent on load and engine speed.Fuel-air mixture deviations detected by the oxygen sensor result in adaptation values (learned correction values) being stored. By way of the adaptations, the injection can be brought close to the nominal value in advance. A reduction in the response time is achieved in this way. For instance, if the basic injection values of the DME characteristic map are too low during idling or in order to maintain the ideal fuel-air mixture, the emission (lambda) control system would have to constantly increase the injection timing. In this case, an adaptation value is learnt which corrects the basic injection value. The emission (lambda) control then only needs to undertake the fine adjustment.
    Following adaptations are performed during engine operation:
    Tank ventilation adaptation: When the tank ventilation valve is open, an additional combustible mixture is supplied from the activated carbon filter to the engine.The shift in the air-fuel ration detected by the oxygen sensor is almost completely compensated by means of the tank ventilation adaptation value.
    Idle air adaptation: The task of idle air adaptation is carried out by the idle actuator.On the basis of the air volume it ensures a constant idle speed.
    Idle mixture adaptation: If idling is detected on the basis of the throttle position during the rest phase of the tank ventilation system, idle mixture adaptation takes place at certain intervals.
    Partial load mixture adaptation: Also in the partial load range, mixture adaptation takes place at certain intervals.The determined adaptation value is taken into consideration in all partial load ranges.

    Intake air temperature sensor (NTC-I): The intake air temperature sensor is screws into the air collector.A precision NTC resistor is used to convert the "temperature" into a measurement value "resistance" which can be evaluated electrically by the DME control unit. The intake air temperature sensor is not required for correction of the injection timing since the intake air temperature is taken into consideration automatically during air mass measurement.The intake air temperature sensor (NTC-I) is required during the start procedure in conjunction with the coolant temperature sensor (NTC-II). The resistance values of both sensors supply exact information for calculating the injection timing.In this way hot start problems in particular are avoided. The air column in the air mass meter can vibrate during the start procedure.As a result, the output value of the air mass meter cannot be used as a correct value for injection timing. For this reason, the temperature sensors are used as measurement variables during the start procedure up to a freely programmable engine speed threshold.

    Speed signal: The input of the driving speed signal (V-signal) is required in the DME control unit for several functions.
    · It serves the purpose of maintaining the programmed maximum speed.Once this speed is reached, the individual ignition and injection signals are masked out.This ensures smooth shut-down.
    · On vehicles with the air conditioning switched on compressor activation is interrupted up to a driving speed of 13 km/h when accelerating under full load.
    · The idle speed is controlled at a driving speed signal > 0 km/h, i.e. the idle speed has a fixed value which is normally just above the engine speed when the vehicle is stationary.
    · The idle speed is controlled if the driving speed is 0 km/h. However, it is still corrected by the air conditioning system signal, the drive stage information on automatic vehicles and the light switch input.
    · The incoming V-signal in the DME control unit is made available via the CAN interface to the adaptive transmission control unit (AGS).

    ASC interface (Automatic Stability Control): A choke with actuator motor and an ADS control unit (independent throttle control) are also installed on vehicles equipped with ASC.
    Functions: ASC/MSR control (engine drag torque control) is realised by way of following functions:
    · The DME control unit processes the incoming information from the ABS-/ASC control unit. It performs the tasks of blanking out the ignition (ZA) and interrupting fuel injection and drives the idle actuator as well as the control motor of the automatic throttle actuator in conjunction with the ADS control unit.
    · The idle actuator opens specifically when the engine drag torque control is activated. It receives its pulse width-modulated signal directly from the DME control unit.
    · The ADS control unit activates the throttle actuator motor.It is linked by means of a cable assembly with the choke and reduces the engine speed as required. The choke is an additional throttle which is connected upstream of the central throttle. It is opened under spring load (normal status) and is closed by the throttle actuator during ASC control.

    ABS/ASC interface: The following ACD-DME interface is required for activation of the necessary ASC functions within the DME M3.3 or for evaluation of the engine speed:

    Description....................... DME control unit........ ABS/ASC control unit
    Ignition timing adjustment....... Pin82..................................... Pin77
    Ignition mask out.................... Pin83.................................... Pin81
    Idle speed increase (anti-stall).. Pin62.................................... Pin18
    Engine speed signal................. Pin20.................................... Pin47
    Actual throttle value................ Pin11.................................... Pin20

    Based on the extent of slip, the DME control unit receives information from the ABS/ASC control unit.The ABS/ASC control unit determines the control or control combinations to be carried out by the DME control unit.The maximum time the signal inputs are applied at the interfaces is less than 2 seconds.If one or several inputs is applied longer than 2 seconds, a defect code is stored in the defect code memory and the ASC is deactivated.
    Masking out ignition and fuel injection (ZA): The ZA function for DME M3.3 corresponds to the function as already implemented within the DME M1.1, M1.2 and 1.7 for M30 and M70 engines. If the idle speed increase (anti-stall function) and ignition mask out are activated simultaneously, in addition to throttle adjustment, the ignition is masked out and fuel injection interrupted. Ignition mask-out takes place for maximum 2 seconds.
    Ignition timing adjustment (ZWV): In the same way as the function in DME M1.7, the ignition timing is retarded when ASC is activated.
    Idle speed increase (anti-stall) (LDA): On the basis of the opening of the idle actuator, the MSR function (engine drag torque control) is implemented via the DME when the vehicle is coasting.When the signal is applied, the idle actuator is opened further in order to reduce the drag torque of the engine and to prevent the rear wheels skidding.In addition, the DME cancels the deceleration fuel cutout so that the engine does not stall. When a vehicle with ASC reaches the control range, the ABS/ASC control unit sends corresponding signals to the DME control unit (see ASC functions). In addition to ignition timing adjustment or ignition mask-out of the DME control unit, the ADS control unit can close the choke in order to reduce the engine speed. In order to be able to decide the extent of the necessary choke adjustment, the ADS control unit receives the actual throttle value of the DME throttle. With the aid of the ADS actuator motor, if necessary, the throttle may be adjusted against the wishes of the driver (accelerator pedal).

    Antitheft system DWA: The vehicle is protected against theft by the DWA input.The input is active when high signal is applied. The antitheft system is active up to a certain engine speed threshold. The speed sensing function prevents the vehicle being stopped in the event of a defect in the multi-information display MID or in the antitheft system (DWA). Below this speed threshold, the antitheft function is triggered if high signal is applied. In this case, the DME M3.3 prevents the engine from being started.It is not possible to push start the engine when in this status.
    Secondary air system (US cars only): An air pump is used to subsequently treat the exhaust gas. This vane pump is driven mechanically by means of a V-belt. The support bracket for the air pump is mounted on the A/C compressor. Air is injected via hoses and lines into the longitudinal duct in the cylinder head and from here into the output ports. Two non-return valves and a shut-off valve prevent exhaust gas flowing back to the air pump.The pneumatically operated shut-off valve is driven by an electric switchover valve. The system is switched by means of a magnetic clutch as required.

    CAN bus: The CAN bus (Controller Area Network) is a serial bus system, in which all connected stations are equally entitled, i.e. each control unit can both send as well as receive. In other words, the connected control units can "communicate" and exchange information via the lines. Due to the linear structure of the network, the bus system is fully available for all other stations in the event of one station failing.The connection consists of two data links (CAN_L and CAN_H) which are interference-protected by means of shielding (CAN_S). At present, the AGS and DME control units are interconnected with this system. Linking in of further control units will follow. The connected control units must all have the same CAN status. The CAN status can be checked via the diagnosis interface. The CAN status (bus index) is specified on the identification of the relevant control unit connected to the CAN bus. Following information can be interchanged via CAN with the adaptive electronic transmission control AGS:
    · Terminal 15 (ignition ON)
    · Engine speed
    · Coolant temperature
    · Engine load signal
    · Vehicle speed
    · Throttle angle
    · A/C compressor
    · Engine torque reduction by ignition timing adjustment
    · Torque converter clutch opened or closed
    · Selected drive program
    · Selector lever
    · Current drive stage
    · Deceleration fuel cutout active or not active
    Shogun tricks and tips for the E32 series are HERE!

  6. #731
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    1,512
    My Cars
    1990/02 BMW 735iA M30B35
    Which of the engine ECU can work on M30 engines 1.2 or 1.7 ?
    Last edited by Annddrriy; 11-06-2023 at 12:34 PM. Reason: ECU

  7. #732
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    1,512
    My Cars
    1990/02 BMW 735iA M30B35
    AGS and AEGS is that same ? 735iL with EML and ASC has Controller Area Network ?
    Last edited by Annddrriy; 11-06-2023 at 12:32 PM.

  8. #733
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    1,512
    My Cars
    1990/02 BMW 735iA M30B35
    Switch box=valve body I thought you writing about gear selector switch they all have 7 pins

    - - - Updated - - -

    Two versions of the valve body E7=8 pins that is EGS and valve body E9=7 pins that is AEGS is that correct ?

  9. #734
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Japan
    Posts
    54,731
    My Cars
    11/88 E32 750iL+98 E36M3
    Which of the engine ECU can work on M30 engines 1.2 or 1.7 ? >>>> both not, yours is M 1.3, also M1.1 works on the M30
    AGS and AEGS is that same ? >>>> see here BMW abbreviations https://www.hubauer-shop.de/images/c...kuerzungen.pdf
    AGS Adaptive Getriebesteuerung, Adaptive gearbox control, AEGS Autarke Elektronische Getriebesteuerung, AUTARK ELEKTRONIC GEARBOX CONTROL
    735iL with EML and ASC has Controller Area Network ?>>>>> see here the network, the EML is the heart of it https://www.europeantransmission.com...MW/EML-BMW.pdf
    Two versions of the valve body E7=8 pins that is EGS and valve body E9=7 pins that is AEGS is that correct ? >>> if I understand correct: only the newest valve body has AEGS and even there only the 750 with 4HP24, not all models.
    Last edited by shogun; 11-06-2023 at 06:01 PM.
    Shogun tricks and tips for the E32 series are HERE!

  10. #735
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    1,512
    My Cars
    1990/02 BMW 735iA M30B35
    New models 750iL has AGS with 4HP24 ?

  11. #736
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Japan
    Posts
    54,731
    My Cars
    11/88 E32 750iL+98 E36M3
    Quote Originally Posted by Annddrriy View Post
    New models 750iL has AGS with 4HP24 ?
    see my post 724, explained in detail, German version: AGS was available from production date 09/1992 with a A and + switch or sometimes A and S, other countries are different, some countries never got it
    Last edited by shogun; 11-07-2023 at 02:29 AM.
    Shogun tricks and tips for the E32 series are HERE!

  12. #737
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    1,512
    My Cars
    1990/02 BMW 735iA M30B35
    Do you know what size capacitors in the A300 EGS ? Capacitor in vehicle 850 and 735 is different.
    Last edited by Annddrriy; 12-01-2023 at 05:41 AM. Reason: Capacitor

  13. #738
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    1,512
    My Cars
    1990/02 BMW 735iA M30B35
    IMG_0418.jpegVehicle built year 1987 E32 automatic transmission hydraulic version on the cluster program mode is not available because it has no solenoids. In the cluster it shows PND321 only. It has gas cable connected to the throttle plate mechanism. Does those vehicles in built year 1987 has any ECU for shift selector gears ? Is that ECU for the vehicle built in 1986 without catalytic converter used the automatic transmission ECU with one solenoid only ?
    Last edited by Annddrriy; 12-01-2023 at 05:12 AM. Reason: ECU

  14. #739
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Japan
    Posts
    54,731
    My Cars
    11/88 E32 750iL+98 E36M3
    capacitors details for thrans control module are unknown to me, you have to check and open the modules.

    E32 were available with and without catalytic converter, for example for some countries in Europe that was an optional extra like Italy etc.
    Based on ETK the oldest E32 Europe version from 10/1985 735iA was a 4HP22 till 02/1988, then came the 4HP22 EH version
    Last edited by shogun; 12-01-2023 at 06:47 AM.
    Shogun tricks and tips for the E32 series are HERE!

  15. #740
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    1,512
    My Cars
    1990/02 BMW 735iA M30B35
    The oldest E32 Europe version built from 10/1985-02/1988 735iA it has 4hp22H which has no solenoids and has no program switch. I found that BMW on website for 8750 euros it’s looks in great shape.

  16. #741
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    1,512
    My Cars
    1990/02 BMW 735iA M30B35
    I’m interested install Hydraulic version automatic transmission to EH version. I don’t know if torque converter would work from EH version in H version. Hydraulic version torque converter has some kind of the plate on back side around 10mm thick for screws to attach to the engine flywheel. The engine rear housing is totally different of EH version.
    Last edited by Annddrriy; 12-01-2023 at 09:16 AM. Reason: H version

  17. #742
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    1,512
    My Cars
    1990/02 BMW 735iA M30B35
    735i Sedan (1987-89)
    735i Sedan (1990-91) For vehicles built through 8/90.
    For 4HP22/24 Transmissions Code: C7 Diameter: 11" Input Splines: 27.

    If automatic transmission bell housing is same in both versions EH an H I hope it will work. Last time I was purchased automatic transmission E9 version from British Columbia still works well. Never know what parts was installed in it. If friction discs was installed after market then it will not run more than 30.000 km.
    Which friction discs will work longer than other grey colour or dark yellow ? Thanks !
    IMG_0419.jpegIMG_0420.jpeg
    Last edited by Annddrriy; 12-02-2023 at 01:04 AM. Reason: Torque converter

  18. #743
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    1,512
    My Cars
    1990/02 BMW 735iA M30B35
    750 and 735 vehicles without adaptive transmission have 35 pins automatic transmission TCM. In 750 model the TCM pin 7 and pi 9 is not used as in the 735 models it’s used.

  19. #744
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Japan
    Posts
    54,731
    My Cars
    11/88 E32 750iL+98 E36M3
    750 does not need pins 7 + 9 throttle potentiometer signal + throttle potentiometer supply, as it has EML. The Electronic Throttle Control System regulates the operation of the throttle valves. Throttle valve control is managed electronically, using electric motors, without the use of mechanical linkages or cables like M30 engine without EML. EML system uses a microprocessor to convert the input signal for the position of the accelerator pedal into output commands for control of the throttle valve. The position of the pedal is merely a request to the control module for throttle opening. EML module processes this input request along with other pertinent operating parameters. Throttle valve is moved to its proper position according to specific control unit programming.
    Shogun tricks and tips for the E32 series are HERE!

  20. #745
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    1,512
    My Cars
    1990/02 BMW 735iA M30B35
    Throttle valve control is managed electronically using electric motors without the use of mechanical linkages. The EML module processes this input request along with other pertinent operating parameters throughout the TCM pin 31 and 32. The automatic transmission TCM in 750 modes with the EML using 35 pins automatic transmission TCM voltages returns to the automatic transmission TCM by pin 31 which is full load and pin 32 EML signal. In M30 engine the automatic transmission TCM pin 7 receives the signal from the TPS pin 3. In the ETM not mentioned the TCM pin 31 is full load with EML or without EML.
    Last edited by Annddrriy; 12-11-2023 at 03:32 AM. Reason: EML and TPS

  21. #746
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    1,512
    My Cars
    1990/02 BMW 735iA M30B35
    The ETM shows the automatic transmission TCM pin 31 should have 5 volts when ignition is turned on and when throttle fully pressed then voltage should be 0.3 volts. Which pin wire of the engine ECU or the brake light switch or the TPS should be connected to the automatic transmission TCM pin 31 ?
    IMG_0432.jpeg
    Last edited by Annddrriy; 12-11-2023 at 01:07 PM. Reason: TPS works as EML

  22. #747
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    1,512
    My Cars
    1990/02 BMW 735iA M30B35
    Code 54 stored in the engine ECU. The engine ECU pin 54 supply 5 volts to the TCM pin 25 and when lock up clutch solenoid is turned on then around 12.8 volts added to the engine ECU pin 54 then the ECU pin 54 is supplying 5 volts to the automatic transmission TCM pin 25 then becomes 12.8+5=17.5 over voltage making short circuit in the circuit board then throw the code 54. If the TPS pin 5 removed from the harness then the engine ECU not throw the code 54. The engine ECU pin 54 supplying 5 volts to the automatic transmission TCM pin 25 is receiving extra 5 volt when converter clutch is locked. If the wire pin 25 of the automatic transmission TCM will be connected to the engine ECU pin 53 then scanner might throw the code number 53 which is wide open throttle it makes sense to me because the engine ECU pin 53 also supplying 5 volts to the TPS pin 5 when throttle wide open if throttle plate will be open half then it might not throw the code because the engine ECU pin 53 not connected to anything when throttle plate half open. The engine ECU pin 53 connected only with the TPS pin 4 when the TPS throttle plate wide open.


    Last edited by Annddrriy; 02-27-2024 at 10:29 AM. Reason: ECU

Page 30 of 30 FirstFirst ... 52021222324252627282930

Similar Threads

  1. ZF 4HP22/24 + 5HP30 valve body overhaul in detail
    By shogun in forum 1988 - 1994 (E32)
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 11-27-2013, 09:13 AM
  2. 4HP22 automatic transmission valve body questions
    By Dash01 in forum 1988 - 1996 (E34)
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 09-24-2009, 10:47 PM
  3. transmission ZF 4HP22/24 solenoid test
    By shogun in forum 1988 - 1994 (E32)
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 09-23-2009, 07:38 AM
  4. Repair of ZF 4HP22/24 transmission - DIY info
    By shogun in forum 1988 - 1994 (E32)
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 10-07-2007, 10:08 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •