I'm considering refinishing my (painted) LTWs.
I read a brief comment by another member wondering how LTWs (Style 24) in Black Diamond would appear. What do you think? My M3 is an Estoril with medium tinted windows.
I certainly don't want to spend $ to mess up the resurrection of my M3.
LTW looks good and classy as is in OEM color, especial with estoril blue. Black wheels are played out, and will be even nastier looking with estoril blue.
My opinion
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Polished , or stamped?
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IMO, it would devalue the wheels. And possibly your car
Ray
never mix black & blue
CARS
02.92 325is / 06.72 2002 / 02.91 XJ / 08.04 R53 JCW
The only color better than silver for OEM wheels is hyper silver.
If they’re not stamped, they’re the “polished” ones. I just had my stamped ones refinished in OEM silver.
If you want black wheels, go aftermarket. OEM wheels done in black is IMO going to weird.
Last edited by cypher448; 01-15-2021 at 05:02 AM.
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So I’m about to go through the process of refinishing my LTWs as well. My set was refinished in a gun metal grey by the previous owner and have started to peel.
I’m not sure most shops can replicate the factory polished finish but a factory silver with polished lip would be fine by me. The spare is still in its original polished form
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1999 BMW M3/2
Fern Green | Sand Beige | 5spd | LTW's | Bilstein PSS9 | Bosch Projectors | Dinan SSK
I think you're right.
I feel like there are 3 or 4 guys included myself in this same LTW predicament. Myself included. Seems like consensus is the cost to refinish to factory polished isn't worth it. So I'm ready to have mine professionally painted the factory color: FelgenSilber.
If anyone has a spot (midwest preferred) that'll do the factory polished finish I'm all ears...
Tim
Milwaukee, WI
'93 318iS w/ M52
'95 M3/5 Avus, Slicktop
'12 Msport 328iT/6
I saw someone had done this to a set recently and I though it looked great! I would have bought them from the seller, but they were 7.5" wide, which was just too small for my needs.
In the end, it's your car so do what makes you happy.
i think silver wheels on a blue car would look much smarter. if you wanted a slightly different look, you could darken up the silver towards dark gray. i wouldn't do black though. that's just me.
[ US spec 10/1995 e36 m3 ]
Has anyone on here done a diamond cut refinish of the LTWs? I'm really torn between painting the centres silver or going the diamond cut route.
1999 BMW M3/2
Fern Green | Sand Beige | 5spd | LTW's | Bilstein PSS9 | Bosch Projectors | Dinan SSK
Another option you might want to consider is getting your wheels powdercoated. It's a better finish than paint, with almost as many color options. I recently picked up a black '99 323i convertible, and am in the process of putting on a set of directional 17x8 X3 wheels on it. Got them powdercoated "kingsport gray" from a local shop, charged me $320 to strip / clean / prep / powdercoat them. Just something else to consider...
This is the X3 wheel in its original color, when I was test fitting it on the car:
And the same wheel powdercoated gray. They won't be as much of a contrast against a black car as the original silver, which is what I was going for. Something more subtle:
Last edited by krab03; 02-06-2021 at 10:05 PM.
Robert
1999 323i E36 convertible (black, black top, tan interior)
Newport News, VA
Do it correctly. These cars are too old to start being creative, and nothing looks worse than a outdated trend. It's officially a classic car now - which means the newer and less-modded it looks, the better. Details matter.
BS. Powdercoat is single stage and you will never get the same quality as a multi-stage paint. You're either basing that off of inexperience, or poor experience. But when done properly (prime/paint/clear) it makes powdercoat look like vinyl wrap.
The reason everyone regurgitates "PoWdErCoAt!" is because it's a cheaper process and they don't know wtf they're talking about. There's a reason OEM wheels are painted from the factory...
Last edited by jvit27; 02-20-2021 at 07:11 PM.
'99 Estoril Blue + Dove Grey ///M3 coupe
'04 Jet Black + Cinnamon ///M3 coupe
I’m working with a wheel refinisher here in Toronto and trying to decide between painting OEM silver with polished lip or machining the whole wheel. The only thing I hate about machining is that you can see all the lines left behind from diamond cutting.
Looks like I’m leaning more toward painting silver.
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1999 BMW M3/2
Fern Green | Sand Beige | 5spd | LTW's | Bilstein PSS9 | Bosch Projectors | Dinan SSK
Midwest Wheel & Tire in auburn hills, MI. It was $125 per wheel. Yes it’s Mugello red, hard to tell in this pic but sometimes in the sun it looks a little more orange.
Also, blak blur, I do not know the color code, the refinisher said they just matched whatever the original was. They were familiar with LTW wheels in general when I brought them in.
Last edited by cypher448; 03-04-2021 at 06:04 AM.
I'm sure there are different brands, qualities, and material types in the powder coating process. I have not had wheels powder coated, but I've had dune buggy frames, motorcycle frames, and guns done in different finishes. Several exhaust manifolds in ceramic powder coating. They regurgitate PC because it is extremely durable. I agree that initially the appearance is more refined with paint, but it doesn't last as long. People can go to the powder coating shops and hold examples in their hand and make the decision if it looks good or not. Please tell me where you're getting PC cheaper.
Tom
Currently 1995 M3 manual coupe, 1993 325is
Past cars
2003 530i
1998 528i
1995 530i
1988 528e
1988 535i
1987 2.7i
1972 2002
I worked in one of the largest wheel repair shops in the country. Powdercoating IS cheaper to do. The materials are less expensive. It's not as labor intensive and takes less time - which means quicker turn-around time for the customer and thus higher volume acheivable for us. It is more durable for wear & tear, but QUALITY paint can also last a long time if cared for.
PC has improved greatly over the years and most people can't tell a difference when done correctly. And there are alot of great finish options. But on higher end wheels, paint is usually preferred. It goes on thinner and does not build up as thick which can ruin the details of some intricate wheel designs. Also FYI because powdercoat goes on thicker it hides careless prep damage from heavy media blasting, acid dipping, etc. Believe what you want but it's hard(er) to find a shop that really takes their time to do a good job with powdercoating. Usually it's just cheap labor. And for people who aren't informed, they just accept sub-par work and more often than not their wheels look far worse than the OE finish.
'99 Estoril Blue + Dove Grey ///M3 coupe
'04 Jet Black + Cinnamon ///M3 coupe
Tom
Currently 1995 M3 manual coupe, 1993 325is
Past cars
2003 530i
1998 528i
1995 530i
1988 528e
1988 535i
1987 2.7i
1972 2002
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