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    Who wants the best Strut Brace ever Made?

    I got this Rogue Engineer Strut brace on the SG, and I think its my hands down favorite.

    However, there were only 5 made and that was that, I guess people don't like one piece all aluminum hand welded strut braces that fit the S54.

    Granted the Strong Strut is a good piece, but its a solid thick bar that's many times heavier than the RE special. I own two, and wouldn't remove a SS for the RE special racing brace, but I have 4 coupes so you already know I'm categorically insane.

    Ben has graciously offered to have another made for me after some ribbing from my buddy Milla, and I was going to see if anyone else wants to get in on the action.

    Its the best looking and best fitting for Z3s, hands down.

    There have been only 5 made.

    That gives me a 20% market share, but if there are 6 and I have 2, then my market share goes up to 33%.

    If you have serious interest, then chime in and we can make it happen.

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    I would be interested, how much?

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    Now that StrongStrut is (at least temporarily) out of business, this is a good niche market. Do you have an image?
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    Interested as well

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    Interested, depending on the price.
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    I attached a google images picture, hopefully it shows up.

    I'm thinking it will be between $400 and $600.

    However, I think asking for 5 more would make for a better price each.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KBH22102 View Post
    Now that StrongStrut is (at least temporarily) out of business, this is a good niche market. Do you have an image?
    Really? That's bad news. Paul has always been great with the customer service.

    I'll send him an email to see what he has in the Z3 category left over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fmcfad01 View Post
    Pics?
    I think I posted one.

    I'm trying.

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    Sorry for the ignorant question, but I'm guessing by the number of people interested, the strut brace provides a noticeable improvement in front end stiffness?

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    So like, $300 with enough people? Or $600, and $400 with enough people? Or $600 and then take the number of people buying, use that as a multiplier for the discount, exponentially decreasing with each additional person, on a range of $0-300 discounted. So we could all work together to define the formula for exponential decay to determine the cost. Itll be like a fun math problem, only not fun, and incredibly pointless.

    Quote Originally Posted by scenturion View Post
    Sorry for the ignorant question, but I'm guessing by the number of people interested, the strut brace provides a noticeable improvement in front end stiffness?
    Honestly its a blingy placebo generator but it sure do look perty

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    Quote Originally Posted by scenturion View Post
    Sorry for the ignorant question, but I'm guessing by the number of people interested, the strut brace provides a noticeable improvement in front end stiffness?
    Yes, it noticably improved the front stiffness so your car rattles less.

    Does it make it handle better? No.

    Does it make it faster? No.

    Does it add horsepower? No.

    Its just eye candy to be honest, but IF a strut brace could improve handling then this one would be the one.

    No moving parts, no screws, no adjustment, just bolt it on and done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpire View Post
    Yes, it noticably improved the front stiffness so your car rattles less.

    Does it make it handle better? No.

    Does it make it faster? No.

    Does it add horsepower? No.

    Its just eye candy to be honest, but IF a strut brace could improve handling then this one would be the one.

    No moving parts, no screws, no adjustment, just bolt it on and done.
    I'll be honest, at this point reducing rattles would be a much bigger benefit than better handling or more power

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    S54 compliant right? Seems to plenty of options on the S52 front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scenturion View Post
    I'll be honest, at this point reducing rattles would be a much bigger benefit than better handling or more power
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by BimmerBreaker View Post
    So like, $300 with enough people? Or $600, and $400 with enough people?
    Its more like: hey Ben, can you go re-make that thing you made for me before that you only sold 5 of and then you probably made no profit but I'll harass you forever if you don't do this for me kinda thing.

    I think no MORE than $600. They probably still have the jigs somewhere. However, I still feel guilty about Ben making all those custom shift carriers and kits for the 6 Z3 speed conversions when not many people bought them.

    He does stuff like this just because he is a good guy, its not like he's making any money of the Z3 crowd and he still supports us.

    I am just looking for a general number at this point to get him to pull out his calculator.

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    If you want to reduce rattles, you are better off tightening screws and adding some felt tape where plastic pieces meet. Besides, the Dinan strut bar has a carbon fiber inlay CARBON FIBER! and it says Dinan which adds horsepower on its own.

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    I'd probably be interested in this if it's $400, but not a whole lot above that, and definitely not at $600.

    On the 6 speed conversation front, have the cost of the right 6speed transmissions gotten any more reasonable as they've gotten older? As I recall, it was quite an investment back in the day to do that job. Just curious if it's gotten any cheaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fmcfad01 View Post
    I'd probably be interested in this if it's $400, but not a whole lot above that, and definitely not at $600.

    On the 6 speed conversation front, have the cost of the right 6speed transmissions gotten any more reasonable as they've gotten older? As I recall, it was quite an investment back in the day to do that job. Just curious if it's gotten any cheaper.
    The transmission, clutch and flywheel out of an E46 will fit, I've done 2 or 3 of them. I am not positive of the source (M3 or 330 say) as I did none of the parts gathering, the customers always have, but the information must be out there (Just ask Jameson, his was the most recent...).


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    If this is for the S54, I would buy one. Unless someone is selling a Strong Strut!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fmcfad01 View Post
    I'd probably be interested in this if it's $400, but not a whole lot above that, and definitely not at $600.

    On the 6 speed conversation front, have the cost of the right 6speed transmissions gotten any more reasonable as they've gotten older? As I recall, it was quite an investment back in the day to do that job. Just curious if it's gotten any cheaper.
    Any E46 6 speed will work, pretty much any BMW I6 6 speed will work up until N52

    They are about $1k for a trans now. The E46 M3 SMG trans also has conversion bellhousings now for $500, and those SMG trans can be found pretty easily around $500. Plus driveshaft shortening ($250 after shipping and return shipping if nobody local to you does it) and then shift linkage shortened and rewelded together... Parts-wise, should be under $1500. Even less if you are thrifty and have local driveshaft shops

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    S54 guy here also interested. Currently using a hinged Wiechers Sport brace that surely does nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pine1000 View Post
    If you want to reduce rattles, you are better off tightening screws and adding some felt tape where plastic pieces meet. Besides, the Dinan strut bar has a carbon fiber inlay CARBON FIBER! and it says Dinan which adds horsepower on its own.
    I tried... turns out taking apart the interior to put felt tape tends to break the fragile interior panels or clips and make things worse
    The B pillar design is absolutely crazy with how many plastic on plastic interfaces there are to squeak.

    I'd be interested at $400 but probably not $600.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueM3Racer View Post
    S54 guy here also interested. Currently using a hinged Wiechers Sport brace that surely does nothing.
    A strut tower brace functions primarily in tension, not compression, so a steel cable stretched between the towers would be nearly as effective (not so much cosmetically perhaps...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Forbes View Post
    A strut tower brace functions primarily in tension, not compression, so a steel cable stretched between the towers would be nearly as effective (not so much cosmetically perhaps...)
    I'm sure you have seen plenty of braces in your tenure.

    You can't tell me that this isn't the prettiest!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Forbes View Post
    A strut tower brace functions primarily in tension, not compression, so a steel cable stretched between the towers would be nearly as effective (not so much cosmetically perhaps...)
    The trick might be stretching the cable and securing it at a functional degree of tension.

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