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    Bmw e23 ecu

    Bosch Motronic M1.0 Adaptive, part no. 0 261 200 059

    Table of Integrated Circuits and Transistors
    board label device label substitution function
    S100 F12438-03 or InterDesign 8423 2438-03 or InterDesign 8504 2438-03 custom
    S300 L4705CV Much like LM7805 volt regulator but with protection for +/- 80 V transients, reverse polarity and low dropout of just 0.5v
    S700 B57306 80C52 Intel 8051 family microprocessor
    S701 27C32 CMOS EPROM 4K x 8 24 pin
    S702 B57356 or B57317 74LS373N Octal D Latch 20 pin
    S703 B57120 ADC0809 8 bit 8 channel multiplexed Analog to Digital Converter
    S704 CD4049UBEX CD4049UBE Inverter CMOS TTL Level Translator
    S705 B57318 74LS02 Positive NOR gate
    S720 B57348 C2101 or 5101L-1 or AM9101 256 x 4 static RAM
    S800 CA139EX LM339N Quad Comparator
    S890 CA139EX or CE 01 0986 3054 LM339N Quad Comparator
    T200 BC546B
    T320 BC558B
    T321 BC558B
    T322 BC558B
    T401 BC546B
    T420 RBDT95 or BDT95 BD911 NPN Power
    T431 SR52 BSR52 NPN Darlington
    T480 ON588 BDX53C
    T500 BC546B
    T501 BC546B
    T502 BC548C
    T503 ON946 BDW46G
    T504 Bosch 1012 BU941 NPN Power Darlington Ignition Coil Driver
    T505 BC548C
    T560 ON588 BDX53C
    T561 ON588 BDX53C
    T730 BC546B
    T820 ON588 BDX53C

    I've rebuilt a few Bosch 059 Motronic ECUs. I find most of the parts by the device label from standard parts houses such as DigiKey, Mouser, Newark, Jameco etc. otherwise Amazon, or even EBay. Otherwise, I use a part listed in the substitution column. I've developed this substitution list over the years as some of the original parts become unavailable. Many of the chips and transistors are fairly conventional parts from the 1980's. Of course, the one exception is the S701 part which is a special custom chip used for collecting and normalizing the signal from the two flywheel reference sensors. Probably easiest way to source this chip is to cannibalize a junk Bosch Motronic ECU from the same era. Fortunately I've never seen this chip go bad.

    The unit is fairly rugged. Usually just simply reflowing cracked solder joints on the heavier parts restores to good working order. The weight of the heavier parts tends to fatigue the solder joints over the years and create micro-cracks. A good example is part T504, the Bosch 1012 ignition coil driver. Symptom includes car running perfect for days then just suddenly stops - no spark. A hard whack on the ECU cover temporarily closes the cracked solder joint and the car runs fine again ... for a while.

    In some cases the 1012 itself needs replacement. Since the 1012 is a custom Bosch part and is no longer available, the BU941 or BU941Z is an excellent replacement with superior specs. The Porsche DIY folks have been using them as replacements for years in their Motronic ECUs. Of course, the BU941 and BU941Z have only two pins and case compared to the Bosch 1012's 3 pins and case. However, note that the "third" lead from the Bosch 1012 is the same as case, so to use a BU941 or BU941Z simply solder a wire directly to the case to get that third lead. Scratch the nickel plating to get to the "solderable" metal below (brass/copper/whatever) and attach the wire.

    I've also noticed that S703 failures can introduce weird performance issues. This is the 8 channel A to D converter. It is used for all the sensors feeding into the ECU. Symptoms include car idling just fine but when accelerating past 2500 RPM engine becomes dramatically erratic.

    Another related problem source, although not strictly speaking the ECU, is the main relay. It's mounted high on the firewall on the passenger (RH) side. Symptoms include unexpected transmission shifts and ignition cutouts or stumbles after hitting a bump or rough pavement. This can usually be fixed by removing the relay, temporarily opening its cover, and reflowing the solder joints (also good to clean the relay connections and socket). This relay feeds primary power to the Transmission Control Unit (TCU) and the Engine Control Unit (ECU). And when a crack in the main really solder joint intermittently opens (due to a bump in the road) it interrupts power to both control units forcing them to cold reboot.


    Motronic 35 pin connector
    pin function
    1 timing control (ignition coil output)
    2 closed throttle input (TPS idle switch)
    3 full load input (TPS wide open throttle switch and TCU full load output pin 31)
    4 start input (cranking signal. grounded except in start. Otherwise car will run rich)
    5 ground (and shield for crank position sensor cable)
    6 common (AFM ground)
    7 air flow input (AFM signal)
    8 engine speed input (crank speed sensor 1)
    9 reference output (AFM supply)
    10 shift input (from transmission control unit shift output pin 24)
    11 fuel rate output (MPG fuel consumption gauge)
    12 diagnostic connector pin 5
    13 engine temperature input (coolant temp)
    14 fuel injectors control 1, 2 and 3
    15 fuel injectors control 4, 5 and 6
    16 ground
    17 ground
    18 continuous power
    19 ground
    20 fuel pump relay control
    21 engine speed output (instrument tachometer input and TCU tach input pin 21)
    22 air inlet temperature (AFM temp sense)
    23 shield (for oxygen sensor and engine speed sensor cable)
    24 oxygen sensor input
    25 reference point input (crank position sensor 1)
    26 reference point input (crank position sensor 2)
    27 engine speed input (crank speed sensor 2)
    28 transmission input (automatic transmission range switch)
    29 A/C “on” input
    30 not used
    31 oxygen sensor heater relay
    32 not used
    33 extend control (ICV pulse)
    34 retract control (ICV pulse)
    35 ignition power
    Last edited by Cambridge; 07-28-2020 at 08:20 PM.
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    Nice work , I started reverse engineering the CDP 1802 processor with 745i source code years ago but after about 25 pages of logic flow diagrams project stopped lol

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    I have a known sub for the 1012 in an 745i ECU and 008 733i ECU. Works great.

    List is great, I have an inop 013 that was fully gone through and still kaput. Thinking a dead IC, so going to start swapping from junk units to build a good one.
    I make E23 parts.
    09/1983 745i (stolen spring '13 around Houston, TX Achatgruen on nutria buffalo. 8481080)
    10/1984 745i
    11/1984 745i
    11/1984 735i (10:1-265/6)
    Ford, MB, and GM round out the pack.



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    "Known parts houses Ebay and amazon." That would get you expelled from a vintage audio site where counterfeits are to be avoided. Mouser and Digikey are the Known Parts Houses.

    but it is nice to see a list of replacement parts for these ECUs. I've got an 059 in the 5 and an 061 in the 7 but need to rebuild the alarm box in the 7 to get that to work again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8991XJ View Post
    need to rebuild the alarm box in the 7 to get that to work again.


    I tried, still inop on my end. Even tried a few keys. I THINK I may have a bad switch, central locking must work as we know.
    I make E23 parts.
    09/1983 745i (stolen spring '13 around Houston, TX Achatgruen on nutria buffalo. 8481080)
    10/1984 745i
    11/1984 745i
    11/1984 735i (10:1-265/6)
    Ford, MB, and GM round out the pack.



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    Any luck with the 0127 IC

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    Anyone knows the pinout of the 1012 transistor?

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