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Thread: Pirelli P Zero Nero GT vs. Michelin Pilot Sport 4S

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    Pirelli P Zero Nero GT vs. Michelin Pilot Sport 4S

    I need all new tires for the E36 M3 and have always loved Michelin Pilot Sports. In fact the rears are MPSs and fronts are Hancooks. I was leaning to try a matching front and rear tire brand. Does anyone here jave any experience with the Pirelli P Zero Nero GTs? The price is substantially different from the MPS 4S. Are the Pirellis noisy? I currently have stock 17" staggered lightweight style 24 wheels. I have not tracked the car but, plan to autocross as soon as possible. All feedback is appreciated.
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    Conti EC Sport is a good all around tire that costs a little less than the Michelin. I have them on my 08 E90 M3 and 08 E61 535xi. Have had Michelin PSS on both those cars as well.

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    I usually check out the reviews and ratings on Tirerack.com .

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    Things that don’t show up in the reviews are weight, measured width, wheel size range. I use the specifications for each tire to find those details. I like Michelin and Conti because they are light, often 10-20% lighter than many other tires.

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    Continental Extreme contact sport is an awesome tire for the price...and a direct competitor with PSS...for less...however the best bang for the buck tire would be the Firestone FireHawk Indy 500...about 85% capable as the PSS but a lot less...hope that helps!

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    I’ve got PS4S and have been very happy, just street/canyon driving.

    Almost bought the Firestone Indy500 tires but I’m a snob and didn’t want to be seen driving a car with Firestone tires lol

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    Are the Firestone 500 actually Bridgestone S03?

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    i believe so or another bridgestone tire...but yes just rebranded...

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    The Indy 500 and Potenza RE-003 (only available in non-US markets) share a tread pattern, however the RE-003 has a 220 treadwear rating where the Indy 500 is 340. This would indicate the Indy 500 is using a different compound, possibly (but not definitely) a little harder-wearing and less grippy. I'm running them on my daily and they're good tires. If you're not going for competitive lap times somewhere, they're great tires, especially for the price.

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    I'd stick with the Michelins for the street. I've gone through multiple sets of tires in the pilot sport family and they're worth the money, especially with how well they manage in wet conditions compared to other summer tires of similar treadwear. They even do decent work on track for a novice.
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    I did a tire rack review and they were saying the best fit would be Pirelli P Zero Nero GT, Michelin PS4S, and Continental Extreme contact sport. I was actually going to try the Pirellis but, wanted to see if anyone liked them or had a bad experience with them. BMW did have a good relationship with Pirelli in the past and I think the new M8 has Pirellis on it. The Pirellis are like $515 shipped with the PS4S at $843 shipped and Contis in the middle. I have never had Pirelli and am very curious.
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    I decided to get the conti extreme contacts. They handle and have a nice ride. However, I did like the sidewall on the Michelins better. Ultimately, its a good tire. Thanks for all the help.
    ///MLOVE
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    Quote Originally Posted by MLOVE View Post
    I decided to get the conti extreme contacts. They handle and have a nice ride. However, I did like the sidewall on the Michelins better. Ultimately, its a good tire. Thanks for all the help.
    I haven't driven the Conti EC or the Pirelli. I do however have the PS4S on my '17 Civic Si. It's often said that tires are the best value for money upgrade you can do, and I've always believed that and known that (I do trackdays and a lot of autocrossing), but the PS4S is a few cuts above anything else I;ve ever had. They're fast, quiet, comfortable and extremely great in the rain all in impressive amounts.

    Yeah, they're more expensive, but they're still a steal even at the higher cost
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    I ran Conti Extreme Contact sports on my R56 Mini and loved them. Did a lot of autocross and they held up well. Eventually I stepped up my game and went BF goodrich G Force rivals. They were an insane increase in performance and honestly lasted as long on the street/autocross as the Continental tires. For my M3 I went straight to the G Force rivals.

    Back when I had my e39 M5 I had Michelin Pilot Super Sports, a great tire, especially in the rain, however very expensive on a car that burned through tires.

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    The Rivals are a terrible street tire. They're loud, and they suck badly in the rain. They are however very grippy.

    The Pilot Sport 4S is a better street tire. It has a tiny bit less overall grip and much longer life because the compound is more durable plus it starts at 10/32" tread whereas the Rival is 7/32" new.

    I've also had a couple sets of Rivals. (actually, I'm selling a full set used and a couple of other new ones in 255/40/17. Anyone want them?)

    I know BFG is owned by Michelin but the Rival doesn't compare to the Pilot Sport 4S

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    TireRack has a good review of the Pirellis here: https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests...y.jsp?ttid=190

    Seems it's a tad numb on center and lacks a bit in wet traction. Still, that's a very competitive price for that tire. I have run both Continental ExtremeContact and Michelin PS4S on a few different cars and preferred the Michelins. It's expensive but it really is a great, well rounded street tire.

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