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[rosakirk12]

Someone has a ‘91 looks nice. Wokke CSI spoiler Alpine. 76K. Killing the market. Check out prices on AT first


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[adamtaylorfsu37]

I've been tracking that one. It's at $8100 with 2 hours to go.

Bought my 1992 with 150k miles on it for 2x that a few weeks back.

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[WildKarrde]

Ended at $13750. Have E31's always been this much cheaper in the winter months? Or has a bubble burst?

[adamtaylorfsu37]

It didn't hit the Reserve... Which I'm assuming was north of 17 or 18k if I had to guess.

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[Belgiumbarry]

i'm afraid sure bubble burst in Europe.... as from this year all "oldtimers" must go to annual tech inspection again and are inspected as a "new" car !
In the past it was a primitive inspection , papers,lights and brakes. Now everything , as suspension, steering, rust, water/oil leaks, even CO !
And it must all be oem … I suspect many cars aren't worth anymore the cost to get it approved.

Also more and more citys do not allowe anymore "oldtimers" to be used .

Good old days are gone…. in Europe.

[TedBobo]

i'm afraid sure bubble burst in Europe.... as from this year all "oldtimers" must go to annual tech inspection again and are inspected as a "new" car !

Also more and more citys do not allowe anymore "oldtimers" to be used.

That's bad news...sorry to hear that.

[dukegrad98]

That's bad news...sorry to hear that.

The flip side of the coin is that it might be great news for imports to the U.S., where most states hardly even glance at (or even exempt) "old-timers." Combined with the 25-year import exemption, this could be very good for imports, no?

Cheers, John

[Belgiumbarry]

no sorry Ted, just European BS.
I have a regularity rally CS now for 5 years , but can forget it , as it will never pass the new Belgian tech inspection . Made it every year better and better , a reliable car with nice results in rallies. Government sees it different , the less oldtimers, the better.
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[rjjablo]

The flip side of the coin is that it might be great news for imports to the U.S., where most states hardly even glance at (or even exempt) "old-timers." Combined with the 25-year import exemption, this could be very good for imports, no?

Cheers, John

I got Plates for my 1991 which barely ran just by paying the fee.

[TedBobo]

The flip side of the coin is that it might be great news for imports to the U.S., where most states hardly even glance at (or even exempt) "old-timers." Combined with the 25-year import exemption, this could be very good for imports, no?

Cheers, John

Except for good old California. It becomes more difficult every cycle (2 years) to pass smog. I think the current cutoff for smog is model year 1975, after that it's perpetual smog test. There's rumor that the cutoff may move up to 1983 model year. Not too long ago California had the 25 year rule which had me looking forward to the day my 8er would turn 25.

[sreten]

i'm afraid sure bubble burst in Europe.... as from this year all "oldtimers" must go to annual tech inspection again and are inspected as a "new" car !
In the past it was a primitive inspection , papers,lights and brakes. Now everything , as suspension, steering, rust, water/oil leaks, even CO !
And it must all be oem … I suspect many cars aren't worth anymore the cost to get it approved.

Also more and more citys do not allowe anymore "oldtimers" to be used .

Good old days are gone…. in Europe.

This has been always the case in Germany. To get approved for the historic H plate, they go through the car thoroughly checking every detail. Here it's still allowed to drive them wherever unlike diesel powered cars and with H plate you benefit from paying less tax, 150€ is all you pay yearly.

[Belgiumbarry]

must you go every year again once you have a historic plate ?
Here it's now between 30 and 35 years : every year
older 35 : 2 years
older 50 : 5 years

problem is of course how much work is involved to get it back oem for tech inspection , and redo it afterwards. A set of wheels is done in a hour…..
I have a welded roll cage , no more allowed, ain't gonne remove it …. also the Intrax suspension is too much welded/changed…..

[sreten]

I'm not sure about that, I believe it's every 2 years, same as TUV. Yeah, in your case it's complicated. Your car could still pass inspection in Germany if all modifications are documented and registered, but you wouldn't get the H plate since it's not in original condition.

[Belgiumbarry]

i understand, but non of my conversion parts are TUV approved i'm afraid.....

[Pneill316]

Here in PA to get a antique tag all I need to do is pay a one time fee of about $125 once the car is 25yrs old, after that I no longer need any inspection or emissions, also the tag is now good for the life of the car in my ownership.

[Belgiumbarry]

that WAS also the case in Belgium.
Not anymore....

[WildKarrde]

i'm afraid sure bubble burst in Europe.... as from this year all "oldtimers" must go to annual tech inspection again and are inspected as a "new" car !
In the past it was a primitive inspection , papers,lights and brakes. Now everything , as suspension, steering, rust, water/oil leaks, even CO !
And it must all be oem … I suspect many cars aren't worth anymore the cost to get it approved.

Also more and more citys do not allowe anymore "oldtimers" to be used .

Good old days are gone…. in Europe.

Send them to the US, we want them!

But sorry to hear, that really sucks. Your CS is a thing of beauty.

[mbarrett635]

Here in PA to get a antique tag all I need to do is pay a one time fee of about $125 once the car is 25yrs old, after that I no longer need any inspection or emissions, also the tag is now good for the life of the car in my ownership.

You know, us Pennsylvania/Mid-Atlantic owners need to have a get-together once the weather gets nicer.

[idfotou]

You know, us Pennsylvania/Mid-Atlantic owners need to have a get-together once the weather gets nicer.

LOL, move to Arizona. Ya can have a get-together every month

[Pneill316]

You know, us Pennsylvania/Mid-Atlantic owners need to have a get-together once the weather gets nicer.

I agree, It’s been years since I’ve seen another e31 on the road me, always wondering where they are hiding.

[TedBobo]

I agree, It’s been years since I’ve seen another e31 on the road me, always wondering where they are hiding.

We should see at least 20 E31's this weekend.

[WildKarrde]

Other than mine, I've only ever seen two others on the road. I used to see a few show up at the Euro Auto Festival, but none showed up last year. Only reason I didn't enter mine was cuz I figured it would be outclassed by any other E31 that showed up, but turns out I would have been the only one there.

[davidof]

i'm afraid sure bubble burst in Europe.... as from this year all "oldtimers" must go to annual tech inspection again and are inspected as a "new" car !
In the past it was a primitive inspection , papers,lights and brakes. Now everything , as suspension, steering, rust, water/oil leaks, even CO !
And it must all be oem … I suspect many cars aren't worth anymore the cost to get it approved.

Also more and more citys do not allowe anymore "oldtimers" to be used .

Good old days are gone…. in Europe.

Still pretty good here in Sweden. Older than 30years you pay no tax and inspection every 2 years. Not that hard to pass , just brakes , lights ,emission and general condition of the car. No requirement for only oem parts etc.