Paul Walker M3

[RRSperry]

Wow, just wow.. the first of Walker’s E36 ltw s sold for $335,000, plus fees...lol. Wow.

[Braymond141]

Lot 1371: M3 LTW $350,000

Lot 1371.1 E30 M3 $200,000

Lot 1372: M3 LTW $200,000

Lot 1372.1: M3 LTW $220,000

Lot 1373: M3 LTW $235,000

Lot 1373.1: M3 LTW (No graphics/wing) $200,000

Lot 1374 88 E30 M3 $150,000

[RRSperry]

Sorry, but that’s stupid money.lol

[RickyN F355]

not indicative of the market at all...kind of crazy when you cld get an f40

[mlytle]

Indicative of the fast and furious fanboy base. Did you see how old the 350k buyer was? Right in the f&f demographic.

[RickyN F355]

I didn’t - younger guy?

[mitch500]

I didn’t - younger guy?

He looked about 32years old

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[Gene V]

A fool and his money are soon parted...

[Grey Phox]

A fool and his money are soon parted...

With that kind of money I doubt he cares too much about it.

That should make mine should be a deal later this year at a fraction of the price....

[MauiM3Mania]

Sorry, but that’s stupid money.lol

Or just stupid.

[blckstrm]

I mean, I think we can all agree that LTWs are cool.

But for that kind of money... I think we can ALSO all agree that aside from being a little lighter, there really wasn't anything THAT special about them.

At this point, most of us probably have cars that are better than the LTWs we're supposed to be worshipping.

The 96+ cars all had a 3.23. A lot of us run 3.38s (from the automatic cars) or higher.
The LTW wheels were 19.7 lbs (front) and 20.9 lbs (rear) (my understanding remains that the wheels were staggered despite the tires being square). There are a lot of good, light wheels out there, but an Apex 17x8.5 et40 weighs 17.2 lbs, or a 17x9 et30 weighs just 16.5 lbs. Instead of 235 square we run 245 square - or higher. Moreover, a car on the 17x9 et30s with 245s is about 3.5" wider than an un-modified car. Guys with flares are even wider and have wider rubber.
LTWs were lower - running European height springs. Is ANYONE not running at LEAST H&R OE Sports, if not coilovers?
The LTW motors were hand-picked. This is a little harder to really know, but isn't your average chip + M50 manifold at least making sure you're not down on power compared to a particularly strong engine? Not to mention that the 96+ motors had more 15 lbs more of torque out of the gate.
LTWs were early production M3s. Later cars had reinforced subframe mounts and front tower reinforcement plates.
The entire trunk kit is easy to duplicate for a fraction of the cost of the original parts.

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I'm certainly not bashing LTWs - they're fantastic cars. But at $350,000, you're also not TOUCHING that thing. No modifications of any kind without flushing a couple hundred grand down the drain, even if that means failing to address inherent weaknesses or make easy improvements to the driving experience (camber plates, poly bushings, motor mounts, ltw flywheel, etc).

You're not buying the best E36 M3 you can buy - those of us here have those parked in our garages. This is just the most exclusive E36 M3 you can buy...

[MauiM3Mania]

You're not buying the best E36 M3 you can buy - those of us here have those parked in our garages. This is just the most exclusive E36 M3 you can buy...

The best E36 M3s are in garages outside of NA. Someone will buy that LTW just because, as you say it is the most exclusive.

[blckstrm]

The best E36 M3s are in garages outside of NA. Someone will buy that LTW just because, as you say it is the most exclusive.

LOL - touché!

[RickyN F355]

I agree. I think USA e36 m3 is ripe to be a great restomod car. So much potential

[Braymond141]

I agree. I think USA e36 m3 is ripe to be a great restomod car. So much potential

You already know that’s where my money is.

[TAMUmpower]

LTWs were early production M3s. Later cars had reinforced subframe mounts and front tower reinforcement plates.

I have an 8/94 build M3 and it has the factory subframe mounts. I'm pretty convinced at this point that all M3s had them. Most of the places that sell the reinforcement kits even say that early cars "may" not have them.

[Fast400]

I watched it go down...couldn't believe how high the prices went! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PxEYsN4guQ

[bluptgm3]

Those prices reflect the ‘Paul Walker’ previous ownership.
Will they hold those values?
All of the cars were incomplete in some form. Some had spoiler holes drilled thru trunk lid with no spoiler. Most if-not-all of the cars had the ‘Trunk Kit” (spoiler/splitter/strut bar/dual pick-up oil pan) missing.


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[baseball]

I still prefer the E30.

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[scooper]

My 3/94 build has the reinforcement plates...a very early build.

[RickyN F355]

what the real market is like:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...lightweight-2/

[Braymond141]

what the real market is like:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...lightweight-2/

No, I disagree on that one Ricky. It has accident history and someone absolutely raped the hell out of the underside with rattle cans of white paint. One of the tackiest things I've seen on an enthusiast grade car.

[RickyN F355]

No, I disagree on that one Ricky. It has accident history and someone absolutely raped the hell out of the underside with rattle cans of white paint. One of the tackiest things I've seen on an enthusiast grade car.

You are saying it went for too much?

[Braymond141]

You are saying it went for too much?

That's too hard to say, but hopefully it went for what it was worth... which means a better condition example would be more valuable. You can never tell with BaT and the Lightweight market is an unknown right now with every digesting the BJ auction.

[RickyN F355]

Crappy high miles cars are 60 to 70. No story 10k mile cars are 120k. This bat car fits the market that I’ve participated in.