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    E24M6 Track Toy. S54-B32 powered

    Gents,

    I have a long time E24M6 customer which I have been taking care of for
    years. A year or so ago, he slowly got the bug from me to turn his M6
    into a track day car, for lots of canyon fun.

    (The body and styling will all be on behalf of the owner)

    I have a low budget to work with so everything is calculated.

    My Table of contents:

    - Complete drive train performance.
    - Entry level Suspension.
    - Simple welded half a cage.
    - Weight reduction project/s.

    Engine: The S38-B35 is a great engine but the amount of money I need
    in order to produce 400hp or more is not cheap. This will require a complete
    tear down: pistons, valves, head work, valve train, machine shop work,
    my labor, list goes on and on....

    So, say we have 400hp S38 on the stand and then we need all custom
    and sophisticated EMS(engine management system) in order to tune
    and have full control over the engine operation. This will load the bill with
    another 5k-6k. (Note): In my current S38-B36 I have successfully
    completed Haltech engine management project and the cost for the way
    I did it was a hair under $6k. I have an ultra custom and sophisticated set up,
    I went all out with the proper way to do EMS. Dyno sessions revisions
    is not even part of the deal...

    BMW factory spent an "Untold of time" to develop an engine management
    system for great drivability and performance. From experience on my S38,
    I have spent at least 1 month of taking heavy notes onto trimming the
    drivability.... Revisions are all additional, renting a dyno etc..

    Another major factor is time ! I did not want this project to be one
    of those 6-10+ year projects...which has a dedicated spot inside
    of home garage. We wanted to finish the project relatively quickly
    and enjoy the car at the track, as the owner needs to improve driving skills,
    yet take it the local canyon for Sunday car meets.

    Why I chose S54 engine over the S38 ?

    When my customer and I sat and considered all of the above, he decided that
    is was absolutely worth while to chose the S54 engine and drop the S38 from
    the game. Yeah, I know... the S38 it's vintage, it's love, It's cool, but bloody
    expensive to add power. Not to mention very bloody time consuming...

    No LS V8 swap option here. LS is a great engine which I am fan of, big power,
    big cc but I decided to keep the E24 with BMW "In-line 6 Love" hi revving concept.

    I know the S54 inside out and it's absolutely a piece of engineering Art !
    Every single part in this engine serves a purpose. From engine block weight
    savings to the double continuously variable valve timing... (which
    gives a wide range of power curve)... all are invaluable to the engine. Also
    S54 fuel consumption a day and night difference again due to the Vanos
    System.

    It has a vast light weight valve train which is designed for hi revs in mind, valves
    are made from one piece special alloy and light weight, low drag rings, 11:5CR,
    factory 50mm ITBs, oil squirters, large plenum made from plastic to reduce
    weight, Light weight construction cyl head, factory hi flow cyl head, revs at
    8000-8150rpm without any fuzz.

    The G420 6-spd gear box with great ratios with hi performance in mind yet fuel
    efficient with its 0.83 over drive 6th gear, meaning one can use a little taller
    differential ratio. Easy to source if say it brakes or any reason it will require
    replacement, they are very available everywhere.

    The MSS54 is a stand alone piece of the EMS. I have proven multiple
    times that S54 does not need aftermarket EMS to reach great tuning capabilities
    power, yet to remain on factory drivability.

    Again, to replicate the S38 to the entire package above will require a lot of funding
    which the S54 has this for basically free and some !

    At last, the S54 is a bit lighter than the S38 due to a shorter and narrower block.
    The lighter the engine up in the front, the better the weight distribution will be.

    To up the power on the S54 I picked cams from Cat-Cam intake and exhaust,
    CSL light weight carbon air box with flap.

    Expected power will be around 400hp using 91 crappy California pump gas.
    Also, I have in mind to have second ECU (which will be tuned) on race gas 100+octane.
    This should add a few more HPs.

    Suspension is single adjustable Ohlins built by me and all custom valves are done by
    an Ohlins Technician in SoCal I work with. I chose Ohlins because the ability to
    re-valve quickly per my liking.

    For now, wheels are Apex light weight but I have in mind BBS Motorsport wheels
    to be installed once the car is completed.

    The half roll cage is simple and welded to the chassis in order to increase rigidity,
    stiffness, flexing, and safety.

    Regards,
    Anri
    Last edited by sofiabghome; 12-09-2019 at 12:26 PM.
    - E24 M6 88' Schwartz/Sparco Race Track Toy
    - E24 M6 88' Schwartz/Nature. daily driver
    - E24 M6 88' Royal Blue/Lotus White- Restoration project.
    - E24 M6 88' Zinnoberrot/Natur. daily S38 B35 special engine project...
    - E30 M3 Diamand Schwartz build S14-B2X.
    - E28 M5 Black/Nature M-Technic project
    - E31 '97 840Ci Black/Black CSI complete futures my cruiser soon S62-B50 6spd.
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    Thanks for the insight as always, Anri. Good to learn about all the factors that go into a build such as this.

    Now that I've been daily-driving my 2000 M5 for over 4 years, my fantasy (if money were no object) would be to transplant an S62 into an E24 (with the 6-speed gearbox, of course). However, I'm not even sure that's even feasible, and you make a strong case for an upgraded S54. Have you ever researched an S62 transplant, or heard about it from others?

    Cheers,
    Paul
    "Sabine": '88 M6 Royalblau/Silber
    SLS delete, Wizard Cooling radiator, BavAuto Strut bar, M-Technik steering wheel, Conforti chip, Bilstein B8s / H&R lowering springs

    "Greta": '00 M5 Titansilber / Grau-Schwartz
    Euro Hellas, e-Light control module, muffler delete

    "Cosette": '09 335i Titansilber / Schwartz
    Just trying to keep the stock N54 running without throwing codes.

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    Putting an S62 into an E24/28 has been done a couple of times, and only one build E9 used the running gear of the E39.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PTFunk View Post
    Thanks for the insight as always, Anri. Good to learn about all the factors that go into a build such as this.

    Now that I've been daily-driving my 2000 M5 for over 4 years, my fantasy (if money were no object) would be to transplant an S62 into an E24 (with the 6-speed gearbox, of course). However, I'm not even sure that's even feasible, and you make a strong case for an upgraded S54. Have you ever researched an S62 transplant, or heard about it from others?

    Cheers,
    Paul

    Hey Paul,

    I sow your M6 at SoCalVintage I was with Mike Ottati and
    having fun there but never sow you around the car..? Then
    the wagon E34M5 3.8 which is own buy Christopher K.
    neded some love and had to wrench on his engine at the
    show...The Wagon was sitting across of your M6.


    Anyway, the S62 is not a problem to be swapped into E24.
    That said makes it very nice and easy ride. When you
    have torque in such a low rpm's makes the car light.

    I love the S62 but its a little more money to be spent on
    parts and labor to make it long lasting compare to S54.
    Remember these engines are old now and will require
    some attention,vanos, guides, carbon build up, sensors
    are old and needs replacement list goes.

    I'd say no matter that the S62 its little bit more money
    compare to S54, remember always much less compare to
    S38 with 400hp...put on sophisticated ems. Something
    you are really getting for free when you chose S54 or S62.

    I have little bit different task here with this E24M6 S54.
    We need Revs for the track! S62 is not that rev happy out
    of the box..One who is day to day driving and local back road
    fun the S62 is a lot of fun. I mean imagine if we take from your
    E39M5 only 500-600 pounds...is what E24 S62 will be.

    Out of the Box you have S62 with 400hp.-420hp with tune
    and solid exhaust inside E24.

    S54 and S62 are great engines. One needs to understand
    the purpose and use. Both have their different concept. For
    the track S54 is the Winner because we need balanced car.
    The S54 with 405hp at 8100rpm and lighter engine weight
    up the front makes the car to turn with greater corner speed.

    Regards,
    Anri
    Last edited by sofiabghome; 12-11-2019 at 11:22 PM.
    - E24 M6 88' Schwartz/Sparco Race Track Toy
    - E24 M6 88' Schwartz/Nature. daily driver
    - E24 M6 88' Royal Blue/Lotus White- Restoration project.
    - E24 M6 88' Zinnoberrot/Natur. daily S38 B35 special engine project...
    - E30 M3 Diamand Schwartz build S14-B2X.
    - E28 M5 Black/Nature M-Technic project
    - E31 '97 840Ci Black/Black CSI complete futures my cruiser soon S62-B50 6spd.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTV4asC3Bp0&t=14s
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    The S54 I sourced has 80k miles which came from M3 SMG
    convertible 2005.

    In order to provide 100% Warranty on my work I took the
    engine all apart and perform inspection and replace few parts
    needed.

    The block bores looks like no pistons were ever in...literally
    like brand New. The cross hatch is all present.

    The Cyl head dome, valves, have no sign of any carbon build up
    or poor injector performance. All cyl were burning very evenly.
    Very Clean and it shows its low miles.

    Regards,
    Anri
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    Last edited by sofiabghome; 12-08-2019 at 02:57 PM.
    - E24 M6 88' Schwartz/Sparco Race Track Toy
    - E24 M6 88' Schwartz/Nature. daily driver
    - E24 M6 88' Royal Blue/Lotus White- Restoration project.
    - E24 M6 88' Zinnoberrot/Natur. daily S38 B35 special engine project...
    - E30 M3 Diamand Schwartz build S14-B2X.
    - E28 M5 Black/Nature M-Technic project
    - E31 '97 840Ci Black/Black CSI complete futures my cruiser soon S62-B50 6spd.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTV4asC3Bp0&t=14s
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    Pistons are very clean and it shows its low miles.
    Yellowish color and no sign of black carbon build.
    All cleaned up and ready to go. New pistons rings
    are fitted.

    (Note: along with this S54 I am rebuilding S38-B38
    and took pictures from the S38B38 after the pistons
    are all cleaned up from carbon but forgot to take pics
    from the S54 but they came cleaner than the ones on
    the S38B38)

    Regards,
    Anri
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    Last edited by sofiabghome; 12-10-2019 at 09:17 AM.
    - E24 M6 88' Schwartz/Sparco Race Track Toy
    - E24 M6 88' Schwartz/Nature. daily driver
    - E24 M6 88' Royal Blue/Lotus White- Restoration project.
    - E24 M6 88' Zinnoberrot/Natur. daily S38 B35 special engine project...
    - E30 M3 Diamand Schwartz build S14-B2X.
    - E28 M5 Black/Nature M-Technic project
    - E31 '97 840Ci Black/Black CSI complete futures my cruiser soon S62-B50 6spd.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTV4asC3Bp0&t=14s
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyh...yUW-Q/featured
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    When perform S54 into older BMWs the oil pan and
    the oil pump must be convert to S50 style.

    The S54/S38 oil pump gear are both using larger 27
    count teeth as opposite of the 25 and smaller in
    diameter of S50. This is because the S54/S38 do rev
    higher than the S50s and thus prevents the oil pump
    from cavitation. So basically hybrid pump is build.

    New oil pump gear with the pump disc to ensure
    fresh hi pressure.
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    - E24 M6 88' Schwartz/Nature. daily driver
    - E24 M6 88' Royal Blue/Lotus White- Restoration project.
    - E24 M6 88' Zinnoberrot/Natur. daily S38 B35 special engine project...
    - E30 M3 Diamand Schwartz build S14-B2X.
    - E28 M5 Black/Nature M-Technic project
    - E31 '97 840Ci Black/Black CSI complete futures my cruiser soon S62-B50 6spd.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTV4asC3Bp0&t=14s
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    Lot of time spent on to cleaning parts after parts...

    New guides.

    Clean assembly is a must.

    Regards,
    Anri
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    - E24 M6 88' Schwartz/Nature. daily driver
    - E24 M6 88' Royal Blue/Lotus White- Restoration project.
    - E24 M6 88' Zinnoberrot/Natur. daily S38 B35 special engine project...
    - E30 M3 Diamand Schwartz build S14-B2X.
    - E28 M5 Black/Nature M-Technic project
    - E31 '97 840Ci Black/Black CSI complete futures my cruiser soon S62-B50 6spd.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTV4asC3Bp0&t=14s
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyh...yUW-Q/featured
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    1971 3.0CS E3 2dr Alpina Special Coupe Racer, 347hp, 295lb/ft

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    Carbon Fiber Sunroof delete is
    done and already installed.

    The OEM is 11 pounds

    The Carbon is 2.5pounds

    Keep moving...

    Regards,
    Anri
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    - E24 M6 88' Royal Blue/Lotus White- Restoration project.
    - E24 M6 88' Zinnoberrot/Natur. daily S38 B35 special engine project...
    - E30 M3 Diamand Schwartz build S14-B2X.
    - E28 M5 Black/Nature M-Technic project
    - E31 '97 840Ci Black/Black CSI complete futures my cruiser soon S62-B50 6spd.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTV4asC3Bp0&t=14s
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    CSL Carbon Box has arived.

    Absolute pice of art and also the
    quality is equally to the factory
    S54 CSL carbon Box.

    Regards,
    Anri
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    - E24 M6 88' Royal Blue/Lotus White- Restoration project.
    - E24 M6 88' Zinnoberrot/Natur. daily S38 B35 special engine project...
    - E30 M3 Diamand Schwartz build S14-B2X.
    - E28 M5 Black/Nature M-Technic project
    - E31 '97 840Ci Black/Black CSI complete futures my cruiser soon S62-B50 6spd.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTV4asC3Bp0&t=14s
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    Good points all! I agree that the S62 is not cheap to maintain the long run, mostly because all of the bits that tend to fail (like sensors!) are doubled in number. But the engine itself seems to be a reliable lump. I'm keep an eye on crankshaft bearing wear with a Blackstone oil analysis at every oil change. I'm a bit annoyed by high(ish) oil consumption due to the early piston ring design, but if I keep the car long enough maybe I'll talk to you about a ring job. :-)
    "Sabine": '88 M6 Royalblau/Silber
    SLS delete, Wizard Cooling radiator, BavAuto Strut bar, M-Technik steering wheel, Conforti chip, Bilstein B8s / H&R lowering springs

    "Greta": '00 M5 Titansilber / Grau-Schwartz
    Euro Hellas, e-Light control module, muffler delete

    "Cosette": '09 335i Titansilber / Schwartz
    Just trying to keep the stock N54 running without throwing codes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PTFunk View Post
    Good points all! I agree that the S62 is not cheap to maintain the long run, mostly because all of the bits that tend to fail (like sensors!) are doubled in number. But the engine itself seems to be a reliable lump. I'm keep an eye on crankshaft bearing wear with a Blackstone oil analysis at every oil change. I'm a bit annoyed by high(ish) oil consumption due to the early piston ring design, but if I keep the car long enough maybe I'll talk to you about a ring job. :-)
    Paul.

    I assume you are using 10W60 right ?
    Not 5W-30.

    What is the oil consumption like ? Also
    under what driving condition ? Hard
    soft ?

    Rod bearing are must on the S62 due
    to its long stroke.

    Regards,
    Anri
    - E24 M6 88' Schwartz/Sparco Race Track Toy
    - E24 M6 88' Schwartz/Nature. daily driver
    - E24 M6 88' Royal Blue/Lotus White- Restoration project.
    - E24 M6 88' Zinnoberrot/Natur. daily S38 B35 special engine project...
    - E30 M3 Diamand Schwartz build S14-B2X.
    - E28 M5 Black/Nature M-Technic project
    - E31 '97 840Ci Black/Black CSI complete futures my cruiser soon S62-B50 6spd.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTV4asC3Bp0&t=14s
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    Cylinder head gasket measured
    and confirmed is the proper thickness.

    Regards,
    Anri
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    - E24 M6 88' Royal Blue/Lotus White- Restoration project.
    - E24 M6 88' Zinnoberrot/Natur. daily S38 B35 special engine project...
    - E30 M3 Diamand Schwartz build S14-B2X.
    - E28 M5 Black/Nature M-Technic project
    - E31 '97 840Ci Black/Black CSI complete futures my cruiser soon S62-B50 6spd.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTV4asC3Bp0&t=14s
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    Quote Originally Posted by sofiabghome View Post
    Paul.

    I assume you are using 10W60 right ? Not 5W-30.

    What is the oil consumption like ? Also under what driving condition? Hard soft?
    I'm using LiquiMoly 10W60, but I have to say that although it's my dailiy commuting car, it often gets the whip! I don't have a solid estimate, but it feels like 1L per 500-750 miles. Depending who you ask, that may not be excessive...
    "Sabine": '88 M6 Royalblau/Silber
    SLS delete, Wizard Cooling radiator, BavAuto Strut bar, M-Technik steering wheel, Conforti chip, Bilstein B8s / H&R lowering springs

    "Greta": '00 M5 Titansilber / Grau-Schwartz
    Euro Hellas, e-Light control module, muffler delete

    "Cosette": '09 335i Titansilber / Schwartz
    Just trying to keep the stock N54 running without throwing codes.

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    1971 3.0CS E3 2dr Alpina Special Coupe Racer, 347hp, 295lb/ft

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipper View Post
    Who supplied the airbox?????

    Hi Shipper,

    Karbonius makes the boxes..for S54s.
    And no it won't fit the S38 even with
    massive modifications....

    Here we go again..why S54 is available
    to buy parts off the shelf.

    If you see the quality of this box its
    better than the OEM S54 CSL...absolute
    piece of art.

    Regards,
    Anri
    Last edited by sofiabghome; 12-18-2019 at 12:59 AM.
    - E24 M6 88' Schwartz/Sparco Race Track Toy
    - E24 M6 88' Schwartz/Nature. daily driver
    - E24 M6 88' Royal Blue/Lotus White- Restoration project.
    - E24 M6 88' Zinnoberrot/Natur. daily S38 B35 special engine project...
    - E30 M3 Diamand Schwartz build S14-B2X.
    - E28 M5 Black/Nature M-Technic project
    - E31 '97 840Ci Black/Black CSI complete futures my cruiser soon S62-B50 6spd.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTV4asC3Bp0&t=14s
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyh...yUW-Q/featured
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    Gents,

    Complete Vanos Overhaul is done. Now no more rattle
    from lose disc holes to the Vanos hub ears, tighter tolerance.
    The Vanos kit is very very affordable.

    New Vanos Viton seals. All completed and this will ensure
    proper Vanos sweep operation and Performance.

    New rod bearings.


    Regards,
    Anri.
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    - E24 M6 88' Schwartz/Sparco Race Track Toy
    - E24 M6 88' Schwartz/Nature. daily driver
    - E24 M6 88' Royal Blue/Lotus White- Restoration project.
    - E24 M6 88' Zinnoberrot/Natur. daily S38 B35 special engine project...
    - E30 M3 Diamand Schwartz build S14-B2X.
    - E28 M5 Black/Nature M-Technic project
    - E31 '97 840Ci Black/Black CSI complete futures my cruiser soon S62-B50 6spd.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTV4asC3Bp0&t=14s
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyh...yUW-Q/featured
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    Quote Originally Posted by sofiabghome View Post
    Gents,

    I have a long time E24M6 customer which I have been taking care of for
    years. A year or so ago, he slowly got the bug from me to turn his M6
    into a track day car, for lots of canyon fun.

    (The body and styling will all be on behalf of the owner)

    I have a low budget to work with so everything is calculated.

    My Table of contents:

    - Complete drive train performance.
    - Entry level Suspension.
    - Simple welded half a cage.
    - Weight reduction project/s.
    Good morning, I do like your plans for the low budget e24 track car. I just bought a cheap 633 CSi and I am very tempted to build a track car out of it.

    I have a '76 2002 and a '76 530i that both have many mods that have been tracked but they are also street cars but they need work again after restoring them 20 years ago.

    My fun car is a 1990 f-2000 but I can't run it at many track events here in Texas. Most track events do not allow open wheel race cars.

    I sure like the idea of dropping an s54 and 6-speed into the e24. I think the car would turn out fairly light if it stripped down.

    I thought the CSI might have a LSD but I was changing the wheels on it yesterday and noticed that the axles turn in opposite directions. So apparently it does not have the LSD.

    I'm also wondering where you will get the half cage? If possible build a second one for me, please!

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    Last edited by JDP530; 01-05-2020 at 01:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDP530 View Post
    I do like your plans for the low budget e24 track car.
    Hi JDP530,

    The meaning of low budget is very "General" subject and
    often confused by individual souls.

    Half roll-cage is build in and welded to chassis to increase
    strength. The cage is not one of those which are Bolt-In
    for $700.. I will need to have your car in order to build it
    all custom.

    There are quite a lot of challenges along the line doing
    S54 6spd conversion in E24 chassis.

    Hope this helps a bit.

    Regards,
    Anri
    Last edited by sofiabghome; 01-06-2020 at 11:14 AM.
    - E24 M6 88' Schwartz/Sparco Race Track Toy
    - E24 M6 88' Schwartz/Nature. daily driver
    - E24 M6 88' Royal Blue/Lotus White- Restoration project.
    - E24 M6 88' Zinnoberrot/Natur. daily S38 B35 special engine project...
    - E30 M3 Diamand Schwartz build S14-B2X.
    - E28 M5 Black/Nature M-Technic project
    - E31 '97 840Ci Black/Black CSI complete futures my cruiser soon S62-B50 6spd.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTV4asC3Bp0&t=14s
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyh...yUW-Q/featured
    https://www.instagram.com/euroclassicmotors/

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    Quote Originally Posted by sofiabghome View Post
    Hi JDP530,

    The meaning of low budget is very "General" subject and
    often confused by individual souls.

    Half roll-cage is build in and welded to chassis to increase
    strength. The cage is not one of those which are Bolt-In
    for $700.. I will need to have your car in order to build it
    all custom.

    There are quite a lot of challenges along the line doing
    S54 6spd conversion in E24 chassis.

    Hope this helps a bit.

    Regards,
    Anri
    Thanks for your response, Anri!

    I may have to step down to another one of the 50 series engines, but i will need to do some study and research and see what is available where I live. I may have found mfr'd mounts to fit the 50 series engines into the E24/E28 chassis. I also found a stand-alone engine harness with OBD2 port that is suppose to fit onto these older chassis for the M52, M54,and S54, from Condor Speed Shop.

    I was sort of half-kidding about the roll cage and I understand shop needs the vehicle for installation. I can probably find someone over here when I get to that point, but thanks for the offer.

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    Hi,

    I get side tracked and pushing E24M6 engine performance
    project towards completion. On my way to brake the record on
    what stock S38-B35 whit Bolt-Ons can do..

    I will update shortly the S54 project.

    Regards,
    Anri.
    Last edited by sofiabghome; 03-09-2020 at 11:31 PM.
    - E24 M6 88' Schwartz/Sparco Race Track Toy
    - E24 M6 88' Schwartz/Nature. daily driver
    - E24 M6 88' Royal Blue/Lotus White- Restoration project.
    - E24 M6 88' Zinnoberrot/Natur. daily S38 B35 special engine project...
    - E30 M3 Diamand Schwartz build S14-B2X.
    - E28 M5 Black/Nature M-Technic project
    - E31 '97 840Ci Black/Black CSI complete futures my cruiser soon S62-B50 6spd.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTV4asC3Bp0&t=14s
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyh...yUW-Q/featured
    https://www.instagram.com/euroclassicmotors/

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    Cool, waiting to see what the S54 and S38B38 can do.
    1977 633 CSi RHD Euro. S38B38 3.9L M5 Transplant. 5 Speed Getrag Dogleg. 3.73 LSD. 417hp, 369lb/ft
    1971 3.0CS E3 2dr Alpina Special Coupe Racer, 347hp, 295lb/ft

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipper View Post
    Cool, waiting to see what the S54 and S38B38 can do.

    Shipper,

    I meant its S38-B35 3.5 not 3.8. So far I am 297rwhp on cold pass
    when engine gets hot hot I am at 292rwhp. Conservative drive train
    loss I am at 340hp at the engine.

    I need to brake the 300rwhp barrier on hot passes. I am waiting on few
    more parts and its back on the Dyno.

    Regards,
    Anri
    - E24 M6 88' Schwartz/Sparco Race Track Toy
    - E24 M6 88' Schwartz/Nature. daily driver
    - E24 M6 88' Royal Blue/Lotus White- Restoration project.
    - E24 M6 88' Zinnoberrot/Natur. daily S38 B35 special engine project...
    - E30 M3 Diamand Schwartz build S14-B2X.
    - E28 M5 Black/Nature M-Technic project
    - E31 '97 840Ci Black/Black CSI complete futures my cruiser soon S62-B50 6spd.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTV4asC3Bp0&t=14s
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyh...yUW-Q/featured
    https://www.instagram.com/euroclassicmotors/

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