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Thread: Rough idle, random no start and runs very reach plus ABS/DSC issues

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    Rough idle, random no start and runs very reach plus ABS/DSC issues

    Hello,

    I purchased a 2007 760Li with about 70K. The previous owner told me that the car recently had coils and spark plugs replaced.

    When we bought the car, it was idling rough on both banks and the transmission was shifting somewhat hard. The car runs rich and uses gas like nothing else (A short drive ~3 miles and less than half an hour of idling used about a quarter of a tank. ). We pulled many codes but one caught our attention.

    0029E2 DME: Fuel injector rail, pressure sensor signal

    We monitored the rail pressure at idle and at around 3000 rpm. In case of idle, the set point was about 430psi and the actual value was about 120psi. Under load, the set point was about 1400psi and the actual value was around 220psi. We thought that the HPFPs were not working properly. We replaced the diaphragms for both pumps as described here:

    https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=846470

    There is still a huge difference in setpoint and actual rail pressure. After that, it seems that the car is running even richer. After just several seconds of idling, I can see soot on the garage floor under the tailpipe. In the meantime, we found the IVM module had a bad looking solder joint and attempted to fix it by re-soldering it. There was no real change in the way the car runs, so we may not have been successful. It may have addressed the intermittent no start no crank but all the other issues are still there.
    Here are the list of codes from ISTA:
    Code Description Existent
    0029CC DME: Combustion misfires, several cylinders No
    0029CC DME2: Combustions miss, bank 2, several cylinders No
    0029D2 DME: Combustion misfires, cylinder 6 No
    0029D5 DME2: Combustion misfires, cylinder 9 No
    0029E2 DME: Fuel injector rail, pressure sensor signal Yes
    002C71 DME: Oxygen sensor after catalytic converter No
    0051B0 EGS: Message (brake light switch) from DSC implausible Yes
    005D36 CIM Hall sensor inclination Yes
    005E9A DSC: Valve Relay Yes
    006278 ARS: Predrive check No
    0093FC SGM-SIM: Undervoltage No
    009C7A IHKA: Water valve, right No
    009CAB LM: One terminal 15 missing No
    009D29 CDC: Changer mechanism, unload yes
    00A0B0 CAS: input, brake lights, implausible No
    00A0B5 CAS: Fault, road speed signal No
    00A391 TCU: Fault, main telephone aerial No
    00A751 Message error (swivel motion blocked) NVE receiver, DSC transmitter Yes
    00A754 Message error (vehicle speed, 0x1A0) NVE receiver, DSC transmitter Yes
    00A8AC LM E60/E61/E65/RR01: left clearance light faulty, E63/E64/RR02: left supplement Yes
    00A8AC LM License-plate light, right faulty Yes
    00A0B5 CAS: Fault, road speed signal No
    00CF19 No message from DSC, receiver DGK/EGS, transmitter KOMBI/LDM/DSC No
    00CF1A No message from DSC, receiver DGK/EGS, transmitter DSC/DME-DDE No
    00D13E Message from control unit, receiver RDC No
    00D712 Message error (speed, 0x1A0), receiver EHC No
    00E518 No message (status driving light, 0x314), receiver LM, transmitter RLS No
    00E51A No message (yaw rate) from DSC, receiver LM, transmitter DSC No

    Where should we look next? We were thinking of trying a new IVM module because we are inexperienced at soldering and possibly messed it up. Is there any data we can collect that would tell us what else to look at?
    How about the rail pressure sensor?

    Thanks

    Update: Last night, we used ISTA to look at the rail pressure setpoint and actual values at idle. For DME1, the set point was 3MPa and the actual value was 0.8MPa. For DME2, the set point was 3MPa and actual value was fluctuating around 3MPa (give or take .1 or .05Mpa). We haven't tested the pressures under load yet. At least according to the numbers we are getting at idle, looks like HPFP for bank 2 is able to keep up with and deliver the pressure needed. This is good news in that the new diaphragm we put in is doing its job (at idle anyway). However, looks like the HPFP for bank 1 doesn't deliver the needed pressure (0.8 ipo 3Mpa). Given that we used the same diaphragm for both pumps and repaired them the same way, I am wondering if our rail pressure sensor on bank 1 is really defective per 29E2 code that we are getting. We will try to play some swaptronics to see if the low pressure follows the sensor or stays with the pump. What do you think?
    Last edited by BMWerke; 08-22-2019 at 11:55 AM.

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    did you figure it out yet? I have a 2008 bmw 760li with 52000 miles and has same symptoms.

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