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    Recommendations MKIV Nav System Retrofit 1996 740iL

    Doing a bunch of research on these things and it'll be a little bit of work to retrofit my Non-DSP 740iL and it looks like BimmerNav has everything. However, they are indeed a bit pricey and I'd buy the harness and mounting system from them. In reading other Forums Software Version 27 or better seems to be the ticket. ROM updates, Maps Through 2015 are available, and Coding Instructions

    I am seeing references to a system that is made by Alpine that is compatible but without the DVD drive. Is this correct? The Info on this is sketchy

    I believe because of the integration with the existing systems the MKIV seems to be the solution

    Suggestions? Pitfalls? Experience of those doing similar Retrofits
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    While I've never done a Nav retro-fit, it sure looks like a lot of work!
    Here's a DIY with pictures (but this 7 has DSP):
    http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/479497
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    Here's my recommendation - don't do it. It's just not worth the time or effort. The electronics for the job are all old, and likely to fail in the near term. Maps are already 4 years old and never going to be updated again.

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    ^I tend to agree with this. I retrofitted my car back in 2010, which is now a whole 9 years ago now wow. At that time, the nav was still a decent alternative, since Google maps and stuff was still improving at the time and data was slow. Now, I use my phone for everything.

    BUT...having the MKIV, BM53 and nav screen has let me integrate other newer factory tech into the BMW, such as factory Aux input, Bluetooth, Sirius satellite radio, and a TV module with backup camera. So, my guess is you won't be using it for nav, but if you want some of that other stuff factory integrated, then the retrofit may be useful. However, it is a whole lot of work. The only thing you should buy is the retrofit cable. Source everything else used. Otherwise you are wasting money. Spend as little as possible, otherwise, you can't justify doing the retrofit over an aftermarket touchscreen solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by racer2086 View Post

    BUT...having the MKIV, BM53 and nav screen has let me integrate other newer factory tech into the BMW, such as factory Aux input, Bluetooth, Sirius satellite radio, and a TV module with backup camera. So, my guess is you won't be using it for nav, but if you want some of that other stuff factory integrated, then the retrofit may be useful. However, it is a whole lot of work. The only thing you should buy is the retrofit cable. Source everything else used. Otherwise you are wasting money. Spend as little as possible, otherwise, you can't justify doing the retrofit over an aftermarket touchscreen solution.
    I have all that stuff with a Mediabridge and a Video module. I don't even have the factory nav unit in my car anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by racer2086 View Post
    ^I tend to agree with this. I retrofitted my car back in 2010, which is now a whole 9 years ago now wow. At that time, the nav was still a decent alternative, since Google maps and stuff was still improving at the time and data was slow. Now, I use my phone for everything.

    BUT...having the MKIV, BM53 and nav screen has let me integrate other newer factory tech into the BMW, such as factory Aux input, Bluetooth, Sirius satellite radio, and a TV module with backup camera. So, my guess is you won't be using it for nav, but if you want some of that other stuff factory integrated, then the retrofit may be useful. However, it is a whole lot of work. The only thing you should buy is the retrofit cable. Source everything else used. Otherwise you are wasting money. Spend as little as possible, otherwise, you can't justify doing the retrofit over an aftermarket touchscreen solution.
    I'm tending to agree that it's more useful for the other items as you noted of the Bluetooth, aux and camera. What I was concerned with was that if I totally replaced the tapedeck and radio that other functionality would be lost because it's not truly integrated into the system.

    My real gap in knowledge is, so if I don't put in a MKIV (used) head and computer and just pick any double DIN in dash solution what functionality will I be screwing up or losing? Can't really find a definitive answer on that
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    • RIP - '91 E30 325i "the Tank" or the "pocket Rocket" 215k miles & '92 Toyota Camry LE V6 put 212k "Pegasus"
    • Good Riddance - '85 Audi 5000 - Stupidest Dumbest buy I ever Made. I should've bought the 524td with the Cracked block instead!
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    If you don't have dsp then why not install an upgraded and newer system something that has bluetooth, nav, something that a local stereo shop can install for way less money then the old and nearly obsolete BMW system ?. Usually more people are trying to figure a way to get out of the dsp stuff then into these days

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulAtredes View Post
    ...if I don't put in a MKIV (used) head and computer and just pick any double DIN in dash solution what functionality will I be screwing up or losing?
    On your non-DSP '96, I doubt there's any factory functionality to lose. But you could easily update the radio to a factory CD43 (responds to steering wheel controls). If you later add a factory Bluetooth TCU, the CD43 displays "PHONE" and mutes audio during a call (call info should appear on MID). Another option: If I recall, some eBay sellers offer modified CD43's with embedded Bluetooth. All OBC functions should remain with your MID.

    If you'd like a nav screen and seek complete factory integration, a Mk4 retrofit simply has no competitors...especially in terms of value (assuming you buy the necessary components used). Despite being from 2015, the maps are still very usable (you can add destinations completed after 2015 by using the "Destination Input Map" feature). I wouldn't touch an aftermarket E38 nav, nor would I ruin the look of your car with a double DIN aftermarket radio. It's likely to end up stolen anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie View Post
    On your non-DSP '96, I doubt there's any factory functionality to lose. But you could easily update the radio to a factory CD43 (responds to steering wheel controls). If you later add a factory Bluetooth TCU, the CD43 displays "PHONE" and mutes audio during a call (call info should appear on MID). Another option: If I recall, some eBay sellers offer modified CD43's with embedded Bluetooth. All OBC functions should remain with your MID.

    If you'd like a nav screen and seek complete factory integration, a Mk4 retrofit simply has no competitors...especially in terms of value (assuming you buy the necessary components used). Despite being from 2015, the maps are still very usable (you can add destinations completed after 2015 by using the "Destination Input Map" feature). I wouldn't touch an aftermarket E38 nav, nor would I ruin the look of your car with a double DIN aftermarket radio. It's likely to end up stolen anyway.
    You Are Probably Correct on the Integration Piece Here's what's installed.

    Attachment 645317

    Soooo Thinking out loud..... I think option "A" is what I'm going with The CD43 option was not something I realized I could do because I got Target Fixated... LOL. Wallet and Wife will be most happy with Less $$. The camera would be nice but not nearly as necessary as it is on my Toyota Tacoma. I'd be better off figuring out how to retro install a backup parking sensor setup... which if done would be waaaay down the list

    Kind of writing this for others who look into this for the future :-)

    A) $$ + not so much time - If I got a CD43 (used) I'd Ditch the Tape Deck and Keep the MID AND from Reading Still Be able to do the CD Deck in the Trunk. However, It seems I can get a USB Cable to Plug into the Unit and put 6 directories with 99 songs and emulate the CD player Cheap BUT Better get the adapter like https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bluetooth-M...m0F:rk:26:pf:0

    For GPS I an just use my Phone and do what I do now just put it in front of the ODB

    AND Maintain that Orange look that I love so much

    B) $$$$$$ + Lots of Time - IF I'd Do the MKIV I'd replace everything and It would Replace the MID and the GPS will Get me Most places and I'd still need my Phone to get to those newer places since 2014 (figuring updates would be from then for the 2015) update add Bluetooth and more $$

    C) There are some Single DIN Android Auto and/or GPS Units where the screen is retractable and can be hidden by the drop-down dash wood piece when not being used as a GPS that might have Merit

    You've convinced me that unless somebody is going to Produce New Nav Disks I might as well just use the phone because Unless I'm in Poduck nowhere USA I'm going to still have to pull out the phone or use an on-dash GPS (I still have a Tom-Tom from my Deceased E30 with a "sandbag" mount that I could stow in the Back Seat Armrest when not in use) for updates to get the last few miles to my destination anyway or ask directions from someone who will not know themselves and pull out their phone to look it up LOL and then Give me strange Looks as to why I'm not using my phone. LOL
    Last edited by PaulAtredes; 02-08-2019 at 07:07 PM.
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    Past Rides
    • '80 Mercedes 240D "Bonnie Blue" - 415k miles still going somewhere... 0-60 in 5 minutes
    • RIP - '91 E30 325i "the Tank" or the "pocket Rocket" 215k miles & '92 Toyota Camry LE V6 put 212k "Pegasus"
    • Good Riddance - '85 Audi 5000 - Stupidest Dumbest buy I ever Made. I should've bought the 524td with the Cracked block instead!
    • '80 Toyota Corolla - "the Stealth Machine" - Drove it like I stole it - You always miss your first one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie View Post
    On your non-DSP '96, I doubt there's any factory functionality to lose. But you could easily update the radio to a factory CD43 (responds to steering wheel controls). If you later add a factory Bluetooth TCU, the CD43 displays "PHONE" and mutes audio during a call (call info should appear on MID). Another option: If I recall, some eBay sellers offer modified CD43's with embedded Bluetooth. All OBC functions should remain with your MID.
    Would this work? I keep Seeing the wider CD53 with virtually the same plug configuration. By Virtually it seems that it has two CD plugs on the back rather than one. The Extra with would have me remove the coin holder
    "Vir, intelligence has nothing to do with politics!" - Londo Mollari & "You see but you do not observe." - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle - When the pin is pulled Mr Grenade is not your friend. - Unknown

    Current Rides
    • '96 E38 740il "007" or "the Green Beast"- Chassis 340k miles Engine & Tranny 50k miles
    • '07 Toyota Tacoma 125k miles SR5 Prerunner in Texas it's just "The Car"
    • '02 E39 525i 108k Miles Wife's ride "Ladyhawke"

    Past Rides
    • '80 Mercedes 240D "Bonnie Blue" - 415k miles still going somewhere... 0-60 in 5 minutes
    • RIP - '91 E30 325i "the Tank" or the "pocket Rocket" 215k miles & '92 Toyota Camry LE V6 put 212k "Pegasus"
    • Good Riddance - '85 Audi 5000 - Stupidest Dumbest buy I ever Made. I should've bought the 524td with the Cracked block instead!
    • '80 Toyota Corolla - "the Stealth Machine" - Drove it like I stole it - You always miss your first one

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    End Solution for Me. I purchased the GROM USB. Works Like a Charm, Install a snap and put the unit above the glovebox and the USB dongle in the Glove box. Got the Bluetooth Adapter and HD Radio Adapter. I'm going to try the HD for a month and see if I can pick up anything worthwhile. I'm just not going to Mount the Antenna in the windshield. Maybe if there is room in the headliner if there is room behind the garage remote but definitely not on the dash or on the windshield.

    GROM has The Dashlinq App https://youtu.be/r_-wXGceQSc I just need to put a Mount somewhere for the phone (Probably In front of the ODB or just lay the Phone on the console in the same place) Have Navigation, tunes, hands-free calling, Works with the CD43 with Text on the Mid

    To get here I tried the cheap $70 Solution from Ebay and it used a 17pin block to plug into the existing 17 pin block and ended up being no room for it in the dash. Limits you to 6 Discs (folders) on the USB with 99 tracks. Grom has None of these limitations. So if you are reading this thread just go for the GROM. It's 3x the cost but it works a LOT better and even for this cheap Scottish Bas**rd he saw the error of his ways once the GROM was in
    "Vir, intelligence has nothing to do with politics!" - Londo Mollari & "You see but you do not observe." - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle - When the pin is pulled Mr Grenade is not your friend. - Unknown

    Current Rides
    • '96 E38 740il "007" or "the Green Beast"- Chassis 340k miles Engine & Tranny 50k miles
    • '07 Toyota Tacoma 125k miles SR5 Prerunner in Texas it's just "The Car"
    • '02 E39 525i 108k Miles Wife's ride "Ladyhawke"

    Past Rides
    • '80 Mercedes 240D "Bonnie Blue" - 415k miles still going somewhere... 0-60 in 5 minutes
    • RIP - '91 E30 325i "the Tank" or the "pocket Rocket" 215k miles & '92 Toyota Camry LE V6 put 212k "Pegasus"
    • Good Riddance - '85 Audi 5000 - Stupidest Dumbest buy I ever Made. I should've bought the 524td with the Cracked block instead!
    • '80 Toyota Corolla - "the Stealth Machine" - Drove it like I stole it - You always miss your first one

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulAtredes View Post
    End Solution for Me. I purchased the GROM USB. Works Like a Charm, Install a snap and put the unit above the glovebox and the USB dongle in the Glove box. Got the Bluetooth Adapter and HD Radio Adapter. I'm going to try the HD for a month and see if I can pick up anything worthwhile. I'm just not going to Mount the Antenna in the windshield. Maybe if there is room in the headliner if there is room behind the garage remote but definitely not on the dash or on the windshield.
    I think you made the right call. I only went with the Mediabridge because I could hook up my existing SiriusXM satellite radio to it. I haven't been too impressed with HD radio, I live a bit away from the nearest major radio market, and while I generally can pick up the analog signal just fine, the digital signal comes and goes, leading to annoying change in volume and clarity while driving around town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulAtredes View Post
    End Solution for Me. I purchased the GROM USB. Works Like a Charm, Install a snap and put the unit above the glovebox and the USB dongle in the Glove box. Got the Bluetooth Adapter and HD Radio Adapter. I'm going to try the HD for a month and see if I can pick up anything worthwhile. I'm just not going to Mount the Antenna in the windshield. Maybe if there is room in the headliner if there is room behind the garage remote but definitely not on the dash or on the windshield.
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    what exactl model/partnumber did you get for your ‘96?... on the Grom website I only see stuff for the ‘98 and up.. I have a ‘97 and would love to do the same thing.. with your Grom hook up, do the steering wheel bottons work? Audio mutes with phone call and all that good stuff?..
    Pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConvGeorge View Post
    I think you made the right call. I only went with the Mediabridge because I could hook up my existing SiriusXM satellite radio to it. I haven't been too impressed with HD radio, I live a bit away from the nearest major radio market, and while I generally can pick up the analog signal just fine, the digital signal comes and goes, leading to annoying change in volume and clarity while driving around town.
    Yeh, I, Like you am a bit too far out and then the Antenna is specialized and requires special mounting & etc. Which is why I shoved it in the dashboard behind the glove box. And I drove into Houston a bit and no love so yep, going back. Oh well sometimes you gotta try stuff to find out they don't work... like the previously attempted solution

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    Quote Originally Posted by BimmerFlyer View Post
    what exactl model/partnumber did you get for your ‘96?... on the Grom website I only see stuff for the ‘98 and up.. I have a ‘97 and would love to do the same thing.. with your Grom hook up, do the steering wheel bottons work? Audio mutes with phone call and all that good stuff?..
    Pete
    The Key is the head unit. I replaced my CD23 tape unit with a CD43 unit. The USB3 will work fine with the CD 43. You have to buy the Bluetooth accessory and then everything you note works. Just the Plain Box won't give you anything but USB music
    "Vir, intelligence has nothing to do with politics!" - Londo Mollari & "You see but you do not observe." - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle - When the pin is pulled Mr Grenade is not your friend. - Unknown

    Current Rides
    • '96 E38 740il "007" or "the Green Beast"- Chassis 340k miles Engine & Tranny 50k miles
    • '07 Toyota Tacoma 125k miles SR5 Prerunner in Texas it's just "The Car"
    • '02 E39 525i 108k Miles Wife's ride "Ladyhawke"

    Past Rides
    • '80 Mercedes 240D "Bonnie Blue" - 415k miles still going somewhere... 0-60 in 5 minutes
    • RIP - '91 E30 325i "the Tank" or the "pocket Rocket" 215k miles & '92 Toyota Camry LE V6 put 212k "Pegasus"
    • Good Riddance - '85 Audi 5000 - Stupidest Dumbest buy I ever Made. I should've bought the 524td with the Cracked block instead!
    • '80 Toyota Corolla - "the Stealth Machine" - Drove it like I stole it - You always miss your first one

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulAtredes View Post
    Yeh, I, Like you am a bit too far out and then the Antenna is specialized and requires special mounting & etc. Which is why I shoved it in the dashboard behind the glove box. And I drove into Houston a bit and no love so yep, going back. Oh well sometimes you gotta try stuff to find out they don't work... like the previously attempted solution

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    The Key is the head unit. I replaced my CD23 tape unit with a CD43 unit. The USB3 will work fine with the CD 43. You have to buy the Bluetooth accessory and then everything you note works. Just the Plain Box won't give you anything but USB music
    Cool,I have a CD 43 laying around from a ‘99 I parted out.. At least I think it is, have to go look... So the USB3 box with the Bluetooth will do all... I will order and report back..
    Pete

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    One more silly question, reading thru this thread again, I see yours is a non DSP... mine has DSP... do you think that switching to a CD43 affects the DSP?
    I did look, thought I had one laying around, but it was a C43 tapedeck..
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    Quote Originally Posted by BimmerFlyer View Post
    One more silly question, reading thru this thread again, I see yours is a non DSP... mine has DSP... do you think that switching to a CD43 affects the DSP?
    I did look, thought I had one laying around, but it was a C43 tapedeck..
    pete

    No its PLUG and Play make sure you have the CD43 code to the radio
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    Quote Originally Posted by franco90 View Post
    No its PLUG and Play make sure you have the CD43 code to the radio
    Great, I will get on ordering some parts and pieces......
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    Quote Originally Posted by BimmerFlyer View Post
    Cool,I have a CD 43 laying around from a ‘99 I parted out.. At least I think it is, have to go look... So the USB3 box with the Bluetooth will do all... I will order and report back..
    Pete
    and the CD doesn't even need to work. Just the Brains!

    I'm going to return the HD Antenna. With the App I can get the HD stations on the Cell Phone and play the right through the Grom so unless you are in a metro area with close proximity and you are going to be using the HD along then don't waste the time or money. Besides with the Cell phone tied in you can listen to tunes, stored on the phone, played through the phone or on a USB stick. Well with a 30-day return I'm just out return shipping on that.
    "Vir, intelligence has nothing to do with politics!" - Londo Mollari & "You see but you do not observe." - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle - When the pin is pulled Mr Grenade is not your friend. - Unknown

    Current Rides
    • '96 E38 740il "007" or "the Green Beast"- Chassis 340k miles Engine & Tranny 50k miles
    • '07 Toyota Tacoma 125k miles SR5 Prerunner in Texas it's just "The Car"
    • '02 E39 525i 108k Miles Wife's ride "Ladyhawke"

    Past Rides
    • '80 Mercedes 240D "Bonnie Blue" - 415k miles still going somewhere... 0-60 in 5 minutes
    • RIP - '91 E30 325i "the Tank" or the "pocket Rocket" 215k miles & '92 Toyota Camry LE V6 put 212k "Pegasus"
    • Good Riddance - '85 Audi 5000 - Stupidest Dumbest buy I ever Made. I should've bought the 524td with the Cracked block instead!
    • '80 Toyota Corolla - "the Stealth Machine" - Drove it like I stole it - You always miss your first one

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    If any one cares , I did indeed purchase a CD 43 from German Audio Tech, showed up in great condition WITH code..was 100 % plug and play.. works fine with the MID, they both display the radio station... change one, and the other changes with it..i do think it actually sounds significantly better, not sure if that is mental or not, but noticed it right away... I think it actually looks better then before, with the top of the panel lit up, reminds me of the early days on my career..
    Next thing will be trying to figure out if either GROM, or something like the new Bluebus for getting Iphone/ Bluetooth capability....need to figure out what is going to be easier and better.. really would not mind a auxport/ USB up front..
    Pete
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    That King stack won't fit in your E38 tho. And it's missing a KNS80 RNAV....with all of 4 programmable waypoints!

    But yeah, the CD43 is the best factory head unit.

    Frankie
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    for those of us with MK1s and the early CD changers, i don't think GROM can work...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie View Post
    That King stack won't fit in your E38 tho. And it's missing a KNS80 RNAV....with all of 4 programmable waypoints!

    But yeah, the CD43 is the best factory head unit.
    We were all fancy with a KNS 81 and all of 10 points... and a printout with all the waypoint/ bearing/distance calculations..Ahhh the good old days.... We were in heaven with the first Lorans...
    Pete

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