Anyone Fit Alpina Hardline wheel fitment

[westlife000]

Anyone fit Alpina Hardline wheels on their E34? (10" Rears - 8.5" Fronts)

I have a lot of variables happening all at once, but curious if H&R springs / Koni shocks will allow for these wheels. I know 275/40/17 is probably the max size tire but I was thinking of staying on the safe side and going 265/40/17 in the rears and 245/45/17 in the front.

Any suggestions/input would be appreciated.

I think this E34 in the link has hardline Alpinas but I dont know his suspension setup and tire size:

https://www.motor1.com/news/78673/th...n-and-on-ebay/

-West

[Redfive]

The wheels you seem to refer to are Alpina softlines. If the offset is correct, they work without any real issue. They're not cheap nor easy to come by wheels, BTW. The offset needs to be low. You may also need to roll your fender lips for more clearance.

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[westlife000]

The wheels you seem to refer to are Alpina softlines. If the offset is correct, they work without any real issue. They're not cheap nor easy to come by wheels, BTW. The offset needs to be low. You may also need to roll your fender lips for more clearance.

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Actually, no the original Alpinas were referred to as Alpina Hardline. They came on Early model E24's. I was able to get a set but need more info before mounting. Thank you for the info.

[Redfive]

Actually, no the original Alpinas were referred to as Alpina Hardline. They came on Early model E24's. I was able to get a set but need more info before mounting. Thank you for the info.

Hardline wheels are where the thin spokes go nearly into the outside lip of the wheel. The softline wheels, all have a decent lip where the spoke blends into wheel lip giving it a softer appearnce. The wheels that you linked are softlines and the description of them even says so.
Google search results for Hardlines is 35,000, while softlines is 10 times that amount.
Either way they're beautiful wheels and you're lucky to come by them.

[q20v]

I wan't aware they were called hardline either, but I have these wheels on my car.

Here are the specs of my current setup:
Front 235/45ZR -17 (8.5" wide wheel)
Rear 265/40R-17 (10" wide wheel)

3mm thick spacers in the rear (might be 6mm actually.. can't check as the car is in storage)
No fender rolling.
Not sure of the wheel offset.
I'm on H&R springs, stock shocks, but installing Koni in the spring.
265 (and matching 235 or 245) tires are hard to find, so I'll likely be going down to 255 in the rear. I'd say 275 is not going to work. With people in the back it rubs on big bumps with the 265s.












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I have more photos if you need them!

[q20v]

With the center caps on:

[ihm96]

Where did you get the wheels? How yours looks is how I've been planning to make my 530i eventually. I've been slowly refreshing a lot of the mechanicals to make sure shes reliable to drive the wheels off daily before I move onto buying the expensive wheels.

Looks awesome though, great car

With the center caps on:

[q20v]

Thanks imh96. The original owner had them installed at some point, along with the spoiler and lowering springs (and presumably upgraded shocks but the previous owner to me installed OEM shocks during his ownership for reasons unknown).

The wheels are straight but a bit weathered (couple curb rash areas and pitting from little stones, and faded powder coat between the spokes etc). I hope to have them refinished this summer at the same time I install new tires.

[Fresco34]

What spoiler do you have? Your car looks great btw!


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[q20v]

Thanks Fresco!
It's a Zender with PN 1313033 but I can't find any info on it other than that. Some guy had PM'ed me a few years ago and found one on eBay new, but it was shown on a Mercedes IIRC. I googled that PN and found it in a Car Shine - Fashion for Cars 2000 catalogue. Never seen another E34 with one.

[Fresco34]

Well if i find another one you might see a green e34 with one haha


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[q20v]

Awesome, be sure to post the details when you do!

[E24man]

I have an Alpina E34 so I know a little about the original Alpina wheels.

The E34 Alpina models (except the 4wd 525ix/B10 3.0 AllRad) came with two options; the winter 8x17 square set and the staggered 8.5x17 and 9.5x17 set.

The E32 Alpina models came with same winter option and a slightly different staggered set; 8.5x17 and 10x17.

The E31 Alpina came with the staggered E32 option and later the 9x18 and 10.5x18 option.

The E31 10.5x18 and E32 10x17 rear wheels will not fit on any E34 except M5's and the E34 Alpina B10 BiTurbo; the reason for this is very simple - thethose models stole the E32 trailing links for beefing up the rear suspension and despite them being stronger the arms are a different profile and allow the fitment of bigger wheels.

Enough of the Techie-stuff, here's some pics;

Here is my E34 on 18" E39 staggered softlines...

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Here it is (after the restoration but before stripes) on staggered 17" original...

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And here it is on a square set of 9x18" E31 original alloys...

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[E24man]

If you change the rear trailing arms you can fit the E31 staggered 18's - this is a 525i Touring that was converted to factory B10 BiTurbo spec when the car was less than a year old...

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[eddycooper]

Wow...a real Alpina 4.6 Touring!! Awesome car!

This reminds me that I need to keep looking for an Alpina 4.6 engine to put in to my car...

[E24man]

Wow...a real Alpina 4.6 Touring!! Awesome car!

This reminds me that I need to keep looking for an Alpina 4.6 engine to put in to my car...

Yep, the only E34 Alpina Touring ever made in right hand drive; there were no Tourings in B10 3.5 or B10 BiTurbo, and no-one ordered a right hand drive B10 3.0 AllRad or B10 4.0 Touring. Mine is car number 16 of just 19 ever made and it was my 'unicorn' car as I learned of its existence about 6 years before it ever surfaced or was seen. Whe it was eventually spotted and discovered I fulfilled my promise to myself to buy it if I could; I bought it from the first owner and had to restore a fair amount of it but it is simply stunning; 340bhp and 354lb/ft of torque so just 20bhp and 21lb/ft down on the B10 BiTurbo, but in a Touring, and for me in the UK, in right hand drive.

The engine is relatively rare being an M60B46 so any kind of issues and I would be facing an enormous bill. The basic engine is shared with the E36 B8 4.6 but in that car it produces a little less power, 333bhp, due to a very restrictive set of manifolds. The later E39 B10 V8 and B10 V8/1 models use the M62B46 and M62TUB46 respectively; the main difference being the single row timing chain and electronic throttle valve on the later engines. I spent a reasonable sum of money earlier this changing the original 'organic' headgaskets for the E39 M5 metal headgaskets as a precaution against failure and potential head or block damage.

Here's the interior, buffalo leather ultramarine...

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[m60power]

And here it is on a square set of 9x18" E31 original alloys...

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What offsets (and spacers if any) are those 9x18 square setup? Did you have to roll the front fenders to fit 9" wide on the front?

Edit: and what tire sizes?

[E24man]

What offsets (and spacers if any) are those 9x18 square setup? Did you have to roll the front fenders to fit 9" wide on the front?

Edit: and what tire sizes?

They are the E31 9"x18" ET12 all round - no spacers, no arch-rolling, no fouling or catching anywhere; 245/40 front and 265/35 rear - the same sizes as the later E34 M5 Tourings with the 18" M-Paras.

I managed to get this set incredibly cheap as they are a square set; I did think about getting the wider rears but it would mean changing the trailing arms and these E31 staggered sets are now bonkers expensive in Europe - think about $5000 a set and you're not far off. I managed to pick up a fifth wheel as a spare as well.

[m60power]

They are the E31 9"x18" ET12 all round - no spacers, no arch-rolling, no fouling or catching anywhere; 245/40 front and 265/35 rear - the same sizes as the later E34 M5 Tourings with the 18" M-Paras.

I managed to get this set incredibly cheap as they are a square set; I did think about getting the wider rears but it would mean changing the trailing arms and these E31 staggered sets are now bonkers expensive in Europe - think about $5000 a set and you're not far off. I managed to pick up a fifth wheel as a spare as well.

Thanks for the info! I want to put 245/40r18 or 245/45r17 tires (square setup) on my e32, and ideally I'd like to do a 9" wheel as opposed to 8.5" wide since there are a lot more wheel options in 9" width, and I like how well the stock 245 section tire looks on the 95 model year e34 M5 with the 9" wide M-parallel wheels. But I have doubts that 9" would fit well under the front fender of the e32 at an offset required to clear the front struts. The e34 and e32 front struts are identical (at least for 540/740), so the question becomes - how much of a difference in fender geometry between e34 and e32. I love how nicely spaced the 9" wheels look on your Alpina touring