To all that might take an interest in this; this is my first time posting on any BMW forum, and wanted to share my story with everyone. So hopefully people don't make the mistake of purchasing a 2009 - 2014 BMW with an N63 engine and affects five different vehicle classes. These cars are lemons with a long history of mechanical problems, and a class action lawsuit filed in 2015 for excessive oil consumption , drained batteries, and other problems affected by the oil cooled parts inside the car. Visit :
www.BangClassSettlement.com to see full notice of the court documents, and full story. The final date for filing any paperwork to claim your vehicle under the class action was October 10th 2018. Too bad BMW has failed to properly notify owners about this, and still continue to sell these cars without advising anyone about the litigation behind them.
In August 2016 i purchased a used 2012 BMW 750LI M Sport with 38,482 miles. The car was sold to me by a private dealership in Los Angeles, and was a one owner lease return that originated from BMW of Santa Monica, CA. The car had a clear title, and free of "defects" , and i paid 42K out the door price with tax & extended warranty to protect me through 100K miles for any possible mechanical issues that could arise with the car. Since that time i've had nothing but problems since i bought it that started with minor things like ignition coils, spark plugs, and check engine lights. Excessive oil consumption was noticed immediately the first year i owned it, and constantly had to top off the oil. I've meticulously maintained the car since i've had it and always taken to a certified BMW mechanic. The BMW service centers i don't trust as far as i can throw them, and use a preferred & HONEST BMW mechanic.
In July 2018 i took my car into the shop to diagnose several issues going on with the car which now has 92K miles. I wanted to have my mechanic check everything including doing a break fluid flush, and oil change prior to making another drive into Southern California from Nevada where i currently live. After inspection my mechanic mentioned that the motor was falling apart; The car had leaking turbo hoses, upper oil pan gasket leak, bad steering pump, excessive oil consumption problems , and the engine valve stem seals we're shot and explained why smoke would come out of the tail pipe during cold starting, and lastly an electric short underneath the drivers seat that scorched the material underneath and could have caught fire at some point had it continued. In all i was facing $15,000 dollars to complete all repairs.
We contacted my extended warranty company who handled the situation great. Due to the extent of the engine problems they sent out an adjuster to verify everything and audited my service records to ensure the car had been properly maintained , and also had video scope photo's taken inside the engine of oil cooled timing chain to verify there was no engine deposits or oil gunk build up. It was clean as a whistle, and they indicated since the repairs exceeded the value of new engine they authorized a complete engine replacement in addition to fixing the electrical problems with my seat. The engine was ordered through a BMW dealership in Las Vegas NV in August, and now here we are in November 2018 and still no sign of the engine or status on when we can expect to receive it. Since July i've had a loaner, and paid out of pocket for extensive rental fees , paying for an auto loan on a car that i can't even drive with still $24K left on it, and have had to register the vehicle as non-operable with the state DMV.
After repeated attempts to get a status on the engine by myself personally and my mechanic to get a status on the replacement engine; we still have no information , and appears to be no end in sight. The only reasoning behind the delay of the engine is that " they can't find any one to make a drive cam shaft on this motor " the third party company that used to make this part went out of business and they have no alternative currently. WTF ????? A drive cam shaft ???? They build the f'ing space shuttle faster than this motor is being is being built. Sounded like complete bullshit to me, and i called them on it stating that it sounded like an excuse. At this point i'm extremely pissed off, and decided to email BMW Group Germany to ask them if they really cared about their customers. I found the CEO & other executive level members of BMW email addresses including their press secretary. I emailed them and demanded a response to this nonsense with the engine replacement.
A couple days later I received a voicemail from a Craig Davis @ BMW North America customer care stating that he was calling because i was interested in a "RE-PURCHASE" of the vehicle. I had missed the call because i was on a business trip. I had no clue what a re-purchase entailed or what the qualifications were , but it was something that THEY suggested. I called back the very next morning which was on a Friday, and he didn't answer so left a message to call me back as soon as possible to discuss what he'd mentioned on my voicemail. He waited three days to call me back and returned my call on October 10th 2018. We discussed the re-purchase over the phone which entailed buy back 100% of the vehicle financing, maintenance, and oil used for the car that i had to top off constantly. I loved that option and expressed my interest to get me out of this situation. He said that unfortunately the deadline had passed to have my paperwork submitted under the class action settlement..... I said "What Settlement? " i had no clue what he meant. He then said "yeah your calling about the class action lawsuit right ? " I told him that nobody had ever notified me at any point by mail , phone, or email about a class action law suit. Confused he said that "well the deadline is October 10th is the deadline to have your request submitted for compensation under the class action". I told Craig that " You know today is October 10th right ? " ; He confirmed this and said that there was nothing he could do to consider me for the class action since it was past the deadline as of that day, and apologized for the inconvenience.
So i contact BMW - Germany, they contact Craig Davis @ BMW North America to ask me about a re-purchase, and then only to tell me that i'm passed the deadline and there's nothing he could do. WTF? How does this make any sense? Why am i now just finding out about this class action lawsuit?? I became more irate and phoned the BMW dealership that we ordered my new engine from, and demanded to talk to a service manager or parts department manager. I told them on they phone that during this whole time my car has been in the shop, and we'd been asking for a status on the engine, or alternatives to put me into another car. I asked them directly if they knew about this class action lawsuit pertaining to my engine ? When i cornered them they paused on the phone & said ... "Yes we knew about it". I said then why did you not say anything about it this whole time ?? Why was this kept a secret or not disclosed? The person at BMW stated that they we're instructed by higher ups not to say anything about it to owners because it was in "litigation, and the car owners would be notified at the appropriate time". They continued the same story about the drive cam shaft holding up the production of these replacement motors, and that there was roughly 185 of these engines on back order in the entire country. WOW.... talk about a cover up right ? I hung up the phone on him, and proceeded to email BMW Group Germany again explaining what i just found out, and that dealerships are hiding this information from people to minimize their exposure & loss due to the class action.
The very next day after i sent that 2nd email i got a call from Craig Davis @ BMW North America again stating that they'd be willing to review my case again as a re-purchase option. I proceeded to email Craig my entire file from the shop that we gave my extended warranty company , and all associated service records. Craig said he'd send it out to his "field team" to be reviewed and a determination would be emailed to me once they made their decision on the matter. After waiting a week i emailed Craig to get a status on the re-purchase decision. He contacted me saying that BMW North America had reviewed my case and have declined to approve my re-purchase request. He would not give any reason as to WHY they we're rejecting it, and would not tell me who this "field team" was. He said he was not able to name the individuals or dealerships that make the decision for their " Protection" . Protection from what ??
They also noted on the rejection letter that their last record of service / maintenance records was in February of 2017 which was not true. I had my car serviced at my own BMW certified mechanic, and provided records for that work done, but BMW refused to acknowledge that in their letter to me. So now here are the facts..
* BMW Continues to sell these vehicles and dealerships are intentionally not advising people that there is litigation behind them starting in 2015 when the class action was filed.
* BMW Offered a "N63 Customer Care Package" at one point to put a band aid on the problem ;not calling it a re-call, but just making the cars last long enough to make it out of their factory warranties leaving them not liable past that point
* BMW has not provided any information or status on when new engines that are paid for out of pocket or by warranty are due to be received. Stating a "drive cam shaft" issue is preventing delivery of these engines with no end in sight
* As a consumer I AM SCREWED. No car for almost 6 months, and no money to buy a new one or sell this one to get out of my current loan so i can buy something else. Without delivery of this motor my car is worthless, and no options.
* BMW Group Germany and BMW North America have zero control of this situation, and dealerships refusing to help take ownership of these problems.
* This is consumer fraud at it's finest , and deliberate false statements , misinformation, are being fed to the public about these N63 motors.
* The 2009-2014 N63 motors are an aging group entering into high mileage and engines are crapping out with less than 100K miles on them
This is snake oil folks, and BMW knows it. The class action settlement proves the excessive oil consumption problems, and now these same engines are failing with the valve stem seals resulting in repair costs that exceed a new engine cost. They have not done their best to advise the public of this and i'm sure there's hundreds of people that might be able to relate to my story.
If you have purchased one of these vehicles recently from a dealer , or have extensive repairs resulting in the requirement of a new engine that BMW is not delivering on please email me immediately so we can talk. Right now i know three other people in the Las Vegas area that are affected by this. We need others in the country to step forward & share your story and put a stop to this. BMW & Car Dealerships have screwed the public long enough, and now they need to take ownership of a crappy mass produced product they've put out into the market. Even if you buy an extended warranty your still not safe; BMW does not have an answer for this, and if you need an engine replacement ... forget it. You'll be out of your car for months on end, and put in line with everyone else waiting.
- Michael
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Originally Posted by Critter7r
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