1 of 1 BMW 840CI M5 Engine Swap

[72tpik5]

Interior Shot!

Beautiful seats. What are they from?

[rockytt]

Beautiful seats. What are they from?

Look like e36 Vaders - yes?

[TheRecyclers]

yes, Sir ! vader off a e36 m3
They are from 95-99 bmw e36 m3 coupes with the sport option interior. they fit perfectly in the e31 ! Next will be my half cage/roll cage to give it the ultimate race car look inside !

im not talking about changing a headlight or how to install a door handle that your telling me about the e31 community freely talks about information. I understand to help others in this forum but you guys are trying to bash on me about an entire swap that literally no one does and hardly any few people do in the e31 community. ( So what is the point of sharing that info to people who are not even going to do the swap. ) Believe me if you need help with minor things on youur vehicle i can help with that and i also part these vehicles out for a living here at my junkyard in rancho cordova ca.

im not talking about changing a headlight or how to install a door handle that your telling me about the e31 community freely talks about information. I understand to help others in this forum but you guys are trying to bash on me about an entire swap that literally no one does and hardly any few people do in the e31 community. ( So what is the point of sharing that info to people who are not even going to do the swap. )

[shogun]

as you are a pro recycling shop, see item 9 forum rules http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum-rules/ Non-Supporting Vendors
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[SixSpeedManual]

as you are a pro recycling shop, see item 9 forum rules http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum-rules/ Non-Supporting Vendors
ADVERTISING http://www.bimmerforums.com/vendors/

Yeah I’ve kinda had enough from him. Comes on here and starts trying to sell knowledge which again is 100% against the spirit of the forum world. Go sell your “impossible” “so hard to do” swap on eBay.


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[TheRecyclers]

Yeah I’ve kinda had enough from him. Comes on here and starts trying to sell knowledge which again is 100% against the spirit of the forum world. Go sell your “impossible” “so hard to do” swap on eBay.


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?? Ok no one spoke of hard to do man.

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You can go read the comment of a member asking cost.. you dont like it no need to keep clicking on this forum.

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Thx for the imput man! I didnt know i can do that Finally someone who has a helpign comment. Instead of just bashing on a new member. I was asked about cost and responded to another member. Now since i know about vendor i can sign up for that. The others talk about member are this and that well why not help me out like shogun so i know what to do. I didnt know answering a question was a problem.

[TheRecyclers]

Yeah I’ve kinda had enough from him. Comes on here and starts trying to sell knowledge which again is 100% against the spirit of the forum world. Go sell your “impossible” “so hard to do” swap on eBay.


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There is a way to give info to a new member and teach him instead of acting the way you are. Help like you guys are telling me this forum is abouf. Give me a tip and let me know what not to do. As a question was asked i answered and looks like some poeple didnt like it. Give me pointers im sure you see im a new member to the forum.

[shogun]

All is clarified now, let's go back to discussions about our cars, modifications, engine swaps and whatever is of interest here in the forum.

[TheRecyclers]

All is clarified now, let's go back to discussions about our cars, modifications, engine swaps and whatever is of interest here in the forum.

Yes!

[Fatandre]

This is a pretty interesting swap.
Has been done in Poland also and added to that a supercharger from EES and a full supersprint headers and exhaust.

[Garageaholic]

Did you need to make any subframe or suspension or sway bar modifications to get the drivetrain to fit?

Do you have an LSD diff?

Like the color combo and wheels!

E31’s are hard man. They’re rare so parts are super expensive. It’s got a huge engine bay so engine swaps are relatively easy, but still must be done tastefully to keep the value of the car up.

I’d love for you to post some updates pics of the on-process engine swap if you have them!!


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[Hyper]

...Give me a tip...

Rough start, but sure...
* By comparison to other forums, the e31 crowd is older, technically sophisticated, have engineering degrees or equivalent long-term experience.
* Whenever a newbie enters a forum, the BS filters are on their full setting. The burden is for the newbie to prove they are bringing something that is not already here in abundance. Your information arbitration scheme, prevents this step.
* V12 people live here. To present the V8-whatever as the ultimate sought-after is basically trolling the V12 crowd which is over half your audience.
* Most of us don't get caught on camera doing peel outs and donuts. We don't see the e31 as BMW's answer to the Camaro.

Along the way I've collected a few philosophy's and one of them is "Don't squander enthusiasm".
So please continue.

[Garageaholic]

* By comparison to other forums, the e31 crowd is older, technically sophisticated, have engineering degrees or equivalent long-term experience.

* Most of us don't get caught on camera doing peel outs and donuts. We don't see the e31 as BMW's answer to the Camaro.

These 2 are my favorite - because burnouts don’t inspire people. Education, knowledge transfer and genuine DIY inspire. Yes I’m relatively new to the forum and I have a lot to share with this very tight knit, educated, and e31 community, but I’ll get there.

Nobody is going to make any money on anything e31. Volume is soo small, market is too niche, and enthusiasts know better. You do it for you. You do it for the technical challenge. I haven’t introduced myself formally but I will in another post shortly.

See you all soon!




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[TheRecyclers]

These 2 are my favorite - because burnouts don’t inspire people. Education, knowledge transfer and genuine DIY inspire. Yes I’m relatively new to the forum and I have a lot to share with this very tight knit, educated, and e31 community, but I’ll get there.

Nobody is going to make any money on anything e31. Volume is soo small, market is too niche, and enthusiasts know better. You do it for you. You do it for the technical challenge. I haven’t introduced myself formally but I will in another post shortly.

See you all soon!




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the LSD i have is listed on the original comment. Everything else is factory on the vehicle i went from a 4.0l v8 engine to the s62 which was an easy fitment for me. I used the old engine brackets off of the original motor. But the s85 i believe you will need custom brackets made.

[rjbaren]

A most very impressive car. I would love to have your information, but the expense is beyond my means for just the information. This will be an expensive undertaking. I have done a 3.15 LSD swap with info posted by Olin who was also available to answer my questions along the way. I have done the Koni adjustable inserts (The Hyper Method) and I even purchased a pair of strut tubes from you so I could perform the conversion out of the car and make it an easy swap. Based on all the testing an information posted by M6Bigdog, I swapped out previously installed Eibach springs for a set of Euro sport springs another member procured for me in Europe and forwarded. Both Hyper and M6BigDog were available and passed on additional information through this forum which again, helped me complete those projects. Lastly, I have done the 6 speed conversion with the information posted by Terminator who was also very helpful with additional information that I needed to fully understand the process. It would be very beneficial to many of us if you would be kind enough to share your knowledge. You never know, you might sell a bunch of M5 engines and ancillary parts to a lot of us enthusiasts who wish to emulate your mechanical prowess and make the conversion.
Food for thought.

[TheRecyclers]

Richard wassup! Thats right you did purchase parts from me! Info will be given to those who need it and will be doing the swap. Thx for the advice

For the v12 e31 owners -- we are building a e31 with a n73 v12 out of the e65/e66 760li with a 6 speed manual transmission. 6.0 liter v12 with the itb's.. kind if like the e31 m8 prototype!

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A most very impressive car. I would love to have your information, but the expense is beyond my means for just the information. This will be an expensive undertaking. I have done a 3.15 LSD swap with info posted by Olin who was also available to answer my questions along the way. I have done the Koni adjustable inserts (The Hyper Method) and I even purchased a pair of strut tubes from you so I could perform the conversion out of the car and make it an easy swap. Based on all the testing an information posted by M6Bigdog, I swapped out previously installed Eibach springs for a set of Euro sport springs another member procured for me in Europe and forwarded. Both Hyper and M6BigDog were available and passed on additional information through this forum which again, helped me complete those projects. Lastly, I have done the 6 speed conversion with the information posted by Terminator who was also very helpful with additional information that I needed to fully understand the process. It would be very beneficial to many of us if you would be kind enough to share your knowledge. You never know, you might sell a bunch of M5 engines and ancillary parts to a lot of us enthusiasts who wish to emulate your mechanical prowess and make the conversion.
Food for thought.

Give me a call instore and we can talk richard! Again i was asked by a member cost.. i shouldnt have answered his question. We can chat over phone! Hope to hear from you soon

[TheRecyclers]

Rough start, but sure...
* By comparison to other forums, the e31 crowd is older, technically sophisticated, have engineering degrees or equivalent long-term experience.
* Whenever a newbie enters a forum, the BS filters are on their full setting. The burden is for the newbie to prove they are bringing something that is not already here in abundance. Your information arbitration scheme, prevents this step.
* V12 people live here. To present the V8-whatever as the ultimate sought-after is basically trolling the V12 crowd which is over half your audience.
* Most of us don't get caught on camera doing peel outs and donuts. We don't see the e31 as BMW's answer to the Camaro.

Along the way I've collected a few philosophy's and one of them is "Don't squander enthusiasm".
So please continue.

i have no idea what ive done to anyone on this forum to be treated the way i am. All i did was answer a question and just trying to show my build to the e31 community. I have no idea why it matters to you why i am doing s donut in MY car.. again you comment is not a tip nor help as i asked from former members of the forum. Everyone has their own taste in cars and i like mine the way it is. No need to be mad at someone else taste.

[cartoonz]

...For the v12 e31 owners -- we are building a e31 with a n73 v12 out of the e65/e66 760li with a 6 speed manual transmission. 6.0 liter v12 with the itb's.. kind if like the e31 m8 prototype!

That's going to be interesting. better choice is the N74 though... but that's a tight squeeze vertically

[TedBobo]

For the v12 e31 owners -- we are building a e31 with a n73 v12 out of the e65/e66 760li with a 6 speed manual transmission. 6.0 liter v12 with the itb's.. kind if like the e31 m8 prototype!

That sounds nice! Feed us updates.

[Hyper]

.. you comment is not a tip nor help...

Changed my mind. Where is that guy with the machete?

[TheRecyclers]

That's going to be interesting. better choice is the N74 though... but that's a tight squeeze vertically

We thought about that as well, but looking at wiring diagrams putting the n73 in it shouldnt to be hard. Just need to check on a couple of fitment things and we should be rolling soon !

[TheRecyclers]

That sounds nice! Feed us updates.

yes sir ! Will let you guys know how that one will be in the making. Hope to start soon on the build as of now getting a couple things together for my next e31 which will be shown soon in another forum. Next build will have another s62 put in her but this time will be bone stock to factory and will look jsut about original ! Will be CA legal to smog and donor s62 comes from a vehicle i found in a yard with 10k miles !

[Garageaholic]

That's going to be interesting. better choice is the N74 though... but that's a tight squeeze vertically

How do you plan to enable CAN communications including EWS Anti theft delete?
I understand the discrete signals and power/ground are easy but what about the other signals the steering Nguni expects to receive from the rest of the car to prevent it from going into limp mode (or not start at all)?


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[TheRecyclers]

How do you plan to enable CAN communications including EWS Anti theft delete?
I understand the discrete signals and power/ground are easy but what about the other signals the steering Nguni expects to receive from the rest of the car to prevent it from going into limp mode (or not start at all)?


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Full EWS delete brain.. meaning everything gets whipped out of the brain and literallty just left with engine functionality.. its crazy what the ecu controls and all its functions.. it will have error codes one example ( rear doors are open, and tht is because swapping into an e31 which is a coupe the brain automatically believes since its not closed shut there is a problem) so we get the entire ecu flashed and zero out every funtion that is not needed into the swap car to prevent any error code that can cause a limp mode or engine to not start. Its crazy now how these guys learned the flash game so well on swap builds for BMW. It has trully evolved since a couple years ago, and guys just get better and better with it. They made the impossible very easy now with what they have learned !! This will be the same as you s85 swap

[Eight Baller]

For the v12 e31 owners -- we are building a e31 with a n73 v12 out of the e65/e66 760li with a 6 speed manual transmission. 6.0 liter v12 with the itb's.. kind if like the e31 m8 prototype!

+1 On this build. When will the project be complete?