Looks like my CSi film(s) has/have made an impact on the buyer/seller Auction world. Turtle Garage. Future of Bring A Trailer and how presentations are suppose to be done.
Happy moment. 😁
http://www.turtlegarage.com/2018/10/...-car-auctions/
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Current E31s:
1997 BMW 840Ci Black on Beige. CSI 62, 107 and 16. Euro-CSi #892.
Client Represented E31s (Cartiology Films)
1994 BMW 850CSi #11 USA, 1994 BMW 850CSi #31 USA, 1994 BMW 850CSi #58 USA
93-850Ci - manual 6 speed. 97-850Ci - M73 Steptronic. 94-CSi 125, 95-CSi 162 Daytona Violet, CSi 198 White on Red
Past E31s:
1991 BMW 850i. Calypso Red on Beige Nappa and 1995 BMW 840Ci. Bright Red on Beige Nappa
1997 BMW 840Ci. Black On Black Nappa, but changed to Dakar Yellow on Black Nappa and 1994 BMW 850CSi #27. Red On light Silver.
1991 BMW 850i. Automatic. Red On Black and 1996 BMW 850Ci. Automatic. Midnight Blue on Gray.
1994 BMW 850CSi. Black On Blak #107, Black/Black 97-840. White/White CSi. Silver/Silver 97-840
Thats great man.
Congrats dude. Nice film.
My Cars - 1991 BMW 850i - mine for fun, 1993 Saab 900c - mine for fun, 2008 Lexus is250 - my daily driver, 2003 Dodge Durango - my wife's, 1994 Acura Legend - gave it to kid
indeed nice to see ! great film.
Is BaT open only to North America, or can foreign-based sellers list on there? (I think you'll know where I'm coming from Alec!)
Current:
1994 E31 850CSi Sterlingsilber/Anthracite Buffalo
Previous:
1987 E28 M5 Delphin
1986 E23 M745iA Arctic Blue
1986 E24 635CSi Polaris
1976 E3 3.0 Si Arctic Blue
Kiwi. You can list international cars too. A friend of mine whom I’m helping list a CSi is in Holland and they accept intl submissions now.
Thanks Alec...thinking it might be worth submitting my CSi for listing on there, but then again, there’s probably not much interest in RHD cars among the majority of BaT bidders.
On the other hand I think there would certainly be BaT buyers interested in bidding on Euro-sourced LHD cars.
And to prove my above theory correct:
I recently submitted my CSi to BaT for auction, which was rejected this week as being an unsuitable candidate.
Primarily I think because it is RHD.
Current:
1994 E31 850CSi Sterlingsilber/Anthracite Buffalo
Previous:
1987 E28 M5 Delphin
1986 E23 M745iA Arctic Blue
1986 E24 635CSi Polaris
1976 E3 3.0 Si Arctic Blue
Really? Wow. Wouldn’t they think they’d have buyers in “RHD countries”? I know BaT is a USA client based company but still, there are many international clients as well.
Yes, I thought I may have had an outside chance of it being accepted, but they basically said that given the car is RHD with a limited buyer base, my reserve price may not achievable.
Interestingly, they gave me no option to discuss further or to consider lowering my stated reserve - which is already too low for this car.
Current:
1994 E31 850CSi Sterlingsilber/Anthracite Buffalo
Previous:
1987 E28 M5 Delphin
1986 E23 M745iA Arctic Blue
1986 E24 635CSi Polaris
1976 E3 3.0 Si Arctic Blue
Same thing happened to me last month, trying to list my father's 1960 Jaguar MK.II 2.4 which originally was sold in South Africa (RHD car). They didn't think our reserve of $14k was realistic for the US market, even though our car has tons of rare early features. Ran into the same dilemma a few months earlier with the '99 M3 I'm trying to sell. They said my reserve was too high for my 89k mile coupe because the engine wasnt original to the car. Seems like they're getting more and more picky and doing everything they can to avoid RNM situations.
2006 R53 JCW (British Racing Green) - 1994 E31 840Ci 6spd (AVUS Blue)
2021 F56 JCW (Rebel Green) - 2000 E38 740i Sport (Titanium Silver)
2017 F26 X4 M40i (Carbon Black) - 2007 E91 328iT (Deep Green)
2012 E82 135i M Sport (Marrakesh Brown) - 2015 E84 X1 (Cashmere Silver)
2005 E53 X5 3.0i Sport (Kalahari Beige) - 2000 E36/7 M Roadster (Oxford Green)
2000 E38 740i Sport (Oxford Green) - 1999 E36 M3 Coupe (Fern Green)
1995 E31 840Ci Canadian (Oxford Green) - 2000 E36/8 M Coupe (Oxford Green)
2004 E46 330Ci (Oxford Green) - 2001 E36/8 Z3 3.0i Coupe (Oxford Green)
2002 E39 525i Sport (Oxford Green) - 2002 E36/7 M Roadster (Oxford Green)
2001 E53 X5 3.0i Sport (Oxford Green) - 2007 E63 M6 (Silver Grey)
1995 E31 840Ci (Oxford Green) - 2006 E86 M Coupe (Sepang Bronze)
2001 E39 530i Sport (Aspen Silver) - 2009 E92 M3 (Space Grey)
2001 E38 740i Sport (Sahara Beige) - 2008 E92 M3 (Melbourne Red)
2000 E38 740i Sport Canadian (Sahara Beige) - 1997 E31 850Ci (Jet Black)
Kiwi -- I actually think your car being denied by BaT had more to do with it being located in New Zealand than it being right hand drive. Prospective bidders will have to budget a pretty good amount to ship the car from your country, and many won't even bother doing the homework to get a shipping quote because they'll just assume it's cost prohibitive and won't even bid. Then there's the 5% buyers premium they'll have to cover. It all starts to add up.
I can't imagine BaT is very popular in New Zealand, so the chance of a local sale is probably pretty low. As someone who sold a car on BaT, there is quite a bit of behind the scenes work that goes into the listing. BaT still has to pay their folks (even when cars don't sell), so they generally only entertain cars that have a high likelihood of selling or ones that gain them a lot of publicity (reference the recent RNM for the LaFerrari). I really think this was a business decision for them.
I'll add the current lead auction on BaT is a 1973 BMW E9 (3.0CS). It looks like a pretty descent car, but it's located in Hawaii. Even though it's a US car, the extra cost of shipping it across the Pacific plus it being harder and more costly for bidders to physically inspect the car may result in a lower sales price.
Sean
Last edited by Sniff38; 10-26-2018 at 08:11 PM.
Thanks for the insight, Sean.
I'm inclined to agree with you in many respects....could be more of a business decision for BaT.
However I don't think they (or many buyers for that matter) are aware of the relatively low cost of shipping - e.g. $US2,265 shipped from NZ to London (UK) in a dedicated 20ft container.
As such, my reserve price (as submitted to BaT) would have included the cost of shipping.
Current:
1994 E31 850CSi Sterlingsilber/Anthracite Buffalo
Previous:
1987 E28 M5 Delphin
1986 E23 M745iA Arctic Blue
1986 E24 635CSi Polaris
1976 E3 3.0 Si Arctic Blue
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