ve I want to buy myself a BMW and I want one with an engine that is DIY friendly, or beginner friendly. I've owned a lot of BMW's but never have had interest in learning to fix them. I haven't owned one for over 10 years but during these last few weeks I've been wanting one and wanting to learn to maintain one. I will end up buying either a e24 or an e34. What do you guys think? Is the m50b25 more complicated than the m30b35 for instance?
E24 & E34 chassis cars are both DIY friendly, not always beginner friendly. All the common repairs are well documented for both if you care to learn and are willing to get dirty.
The M20 & M30 engines are both uncomplicated and reliable with a slight edge to the larger M30 which doesn't require timing belt changes and is better suited to pulling a heavy car.
Both cars are a delight to drive when in good condition. Needy examples, especially the E24 can be very expensive.
Buy the best one you can afford and tend to maintenance before doing anything fancy, if you are so inclined.
If you can leave two black stripes from the exit of one corner to the braking zone of the next, you have enough horsepower. - Mark Donohue
M50/M52 based engines are also pretty simple to work on and are generally built like tanks. There are also a huge amount of parts for them due to the number of models which used them throughout the 90's. If you get one with VANOS that adds a little complexity, but it's not that big of a deal to work on especially with sites like drvanos out there offering rebuilt units and kits for a reasonable amount.
I'd say you're fine with any of those cars you mentioned. All will be pretty similar in terms of engine maintenance.
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Anything with an iron block and a timing chain. After that it's down to how much you like dealing with sensors and computers versus the black magic that are carburetors and distributors.
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M30B35 or B33. 1983 to 1993. While the E24 is the prettiest car BMW's ever made, the E28 is much lighter and faster and easier to work on. The E34 is even heavier, has additional complexity, but has several superior benefits, like better structure, better rear suspension design, better rustproofing. (Sorry shadowpuck, the ones I see are not usually rusted)
Nice E28's and E24's are going up in value rapidly. The "M" versions are joining the E30M3 in the out-of-this-world prices. (Of course, a 2002 M5, dead stock, 450 miles, just sold for $176,000 !)
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I'm eager to learn! I know that the e24 is a more expensive car but what about in regards of parts?
I agree on the e24 being the prettiest one, and the e28 is definitely something I've been looking at also, and the e23. I just want an older model, 1970-1980 BMW that I can care for and learn from, most of the models from that time I find beautiful.
Anything E24 specific will cost more due to rarity and a low survival rate, some things, notably the HVAC system are more complicated, hence more expensive to repair.
Sniff around for a crack free dashboard for one of these things and you'll see what I mean.
If you can leave two black stripes from the exit of one corner to the braking zone of the next, you have enough horsepower. - Mark Donohue
Novice at mechanics in general or BMWs?
It will be s steep learning curve if you have no mechanical experience. A three digit IQ and willingness to get dirty or write large checks will serve you well.
Not sure I'd pick a shark(E24) for MY first automotive venture.
If you can leave two black stripes from the exit of one corner to the braking zone of the next, you have enough horsepower. - Mark Donohue
Novice at mechanics, i have no mechanical experience but heaps of experience in learning new things and now I want it to be mechanics, and it has to be a BMW. If not a shark, what would you pick?
Well, personally, I'd pick an E28....except if I was young, and wanted girls to say "Oooh, what a cool car"....in which case, the E24 wins. You asked what was easiest: that would be the E28. The E24 has things like two damned evaporators in a smaller car, and crawling under the dash to swap a master clutch cylinder will break your back. And the E28 is lighter and faster, and the police pretty much ignore it. Personal choice: look fast, or go fast?
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Thanks people!
No, no, no. YOU can fix a carburetor and a distributor with a screwdriver. Personally, I can only make them worse. Give me electronic ignition and electronic fuel injection, anytime. THIS, I can fix. A carburetor is a toilet bowl, and I can't make multiple toilets flush perfectly together. I can certainly make them dump gas all over the engine though.
Chris Powell
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Engine one of the most complicated part of a car. I never heard about the DIY friendly engine. You have to learn each part of a engine and it may took years to learn. I always try to check my car errors using an obd2 scanner https://bestobd2scanners.com/. But, its issue with my engine I go to mechanic without any thinking. Because engine one of the most complex part and you cannot solve engine problem without vast knowledge.
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Last week, I couldn't even spell BMW.
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