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    We have been ticking away at this build.

    We had a few large roadblocks that took a lot of finesse to make work correctly. We were most worried about the downpipe, wastegate, and cross-over pipe fitment. These are each a make or break on the whole build and each one effects the other. All of these revolve around the manifold and as we got further along we had to go back and modify the turbo manifold to make each fit.

    The first big thing was obviously turbo fitment. Once we received the turbo we worked to complete the front side of the manifold. We had to keep in mind the fitment with the hood. This is a very large turbo.

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    Once the turbo placement was finalized, we had to work in a wastegate placement. We need to be able to control boost very well as this is going to be on pump gas normally. With such a big turbo and wastegate, the wastegate placement is very limited. We are using a turbosmart comp 45. Some basic math proves this is large enough for us to run down to gate pressure of 7 psi.



    With this completed we then focused on the downpipe. With a turbo build like this one we really wanted to run a 3.5" downpipe. The factory wiring harness and the factory air-conditioning were both limiting us on placement of the downpipe. We decided to extend the wiring harness and move the routing of the chassis power wires to allow a 3.5" downpipe along with a 2" crossover pipe. This was extremely time consuming but we wanted to do this properly and leave the car with zero fire concerns. This is an area with minimal airflow so we will add a heat shield as well just to be safe.


    We are planning on making the downpipe 3 pieces. One segment that ties in with the Eisenmann exhaust and is mounted to the motor coming up just behind the valve cover and another smaller segment going from there to the turbo. These will both be vband connections that will allow easy servicing of the coil packs and spark plugs. We are planning a little custom vanity cover to dress up the build further.


    We took some time to jig up the manifold so we'll be able to offer this to anyone who wishes to turbo their m6x. The inner fender was originally modified on this car during the supercharger build so anyone running this large of a turbo may have to follow suit.


    The progress this week may seem small, but these sort of fine details are what make or break the overall build, they are the building blocks. Our goal here is to really make a finished build.
    Last edited by vollosso; 10-14-2018 at 06:18 PM.
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    Thanks for update Zack, much appreciated.
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    Just placed a few orders. A little foreshadowing..

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    Just wondering if anyone here on BFC has used this or simular turbo before? I understand there are not too many turbo BMW 8s here (or anywhere).
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyz66 View Post
    Just wondering if anyone here on BFC has used this or simular turbo before? I understand there are not too many turbo BMW 8s here (or anywhere).
    BorgWarner makes very nice turbos. Its going to be nearly impossible to beat the quality for the price! The S300 series is a good fit for the I6s on a street setup. The S400 turbine and the 72mm compressor should provide a lot of airflow and good spool with your motors displacement.

    The turbos are physically large, but the aero is quite good on the turbines and they perform well for the size if you are worried about it being too big.
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    Turbo M60 e34 Big-Power Content Inside

    Quote Originally Posted by wazzu70 View Post
    BorgWarner makes very nice turbos. Its going to be nearly impossible to beat the quality for the price! The S300 series is a good fit for the I6s on a street setup. The S400 turbine and the 72mm compressor should provide a lot of airflow and good spool with your motors displacement.

    The turbos are physically large, but the aero is quite good on the turbines and they perform well for the size if you are worried about it being too big.
    Well put.

    The large size plays into their efficiency.

    Honestly I think the sxe aero is top tier at any price.

    Jim we are expecting more boost at 3500 with this turbo than your supercharger would have made at 7000 :wink


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    Last edited by vollosso; 10-18-2018 at 01:27 AM.
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    I will be featured in Matt Farah's "Smoking Tire" on You Tube, but I apologize I don't know the date yet. I had some magazines interested when I had the s/c system, and now with the turbo hopefully it will still stand. Also looking for some sponsors to advertise with to help us both out. And I cannot say enough about Zack and 22RPD Tuning. Have to love engineers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnrulyGrace View Post
    Any updates?
    We were gone for the last couple weeks for sema and tuning but were back at it today. Updates to follow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlayerN07 View Post
    I saw you tuning a v10 Nissan at SEMA on YouTube!
    Nissan 240z s85 smg!

    Cool car.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PlayerN07 View Post
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    Any progress since SEMA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnrulyGrace View Post
    Any progress since SEMA?
    Hopefully myE34 will be at/in SEMA 2019! Checked out your website. Anything for my 1995 E34 540i/6? Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyz66 View Post
    Hopefully myE34 will be at/in SEMA 2019! Checked out your website. Anything for my 1995 E34 540i/6? Thanks.
    So stoked to see how it turns out!

    We are have a couple pieces for the 540, but mainly focusing on the S38 stuff right now. I’m re-sleeving a S62 right now and building it for boost. Hopefully Zack will want to work his magic on my car once yours is finished.

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    Turbo M60 e34 Big-Power Content Inside

    Love to help you out Jason!
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    Long delay on the posts here, apologize for that, We have been super busy. We were planning on getting this car in-and-out because we had so much lined up for the end of the year. Having the turbo back us into this window really is unfortunate. A little light on pictures this time but I hope you enjoy nonetheless.

    We really appreciate Jim's patience in all of this, hope this helps your week man.

    As of earlier this week we finished up most of the fabrication, we took all the parts out for ceramic and powder. The exhaust is going to be ceramic coated inside and out to help with engine bay temperatures, the turbine housing to match.

    We modified the A/W Intercooler to run A/N lines, and welded bungs on to match. This was originally heater hose and we thought a build like this really deserved proper lines.

    We have matching oil feed and drain lines, all AN.

    We did the fuel system out of the same AN lines, this is running 3/4" diameter rails (you saw before) paired with a AN feed to each rail with an aeromotive regulator. We are running fuel pressure sensors off the back of the rails for the standalone. We knocked out the 2-1 collector for bank 2 and the cross over pipe out of 2" stainless, back purged, mandrel bent. The crossover pipe is a bit too big to picture reasonably.

    The downpipe is a 4" stainless, backpurged, 2mm wall thickness, mandrel bent. We use a little bit heavier stainless here to help keep the heat in. Pairing this with ceramic should result in good engine bay temperatures.

    While we are waiting on the paint we moved, extended, and mounted all the engine harness and its extremities out of the way to accommodate the large exhaust.

    Additionally, we welded on the Vibrant Clam-shell clamps and removed the ASC throttle.

    As soon as the parts back we are onto assembly and tuning.












    Last edited by vollosso; 12-08-2018 at 12:19 PM.
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    PTE6870 | 1.15 ar | Hp Cover, Custom Divided T4 bottom-mount, 3.5" SS exhaust, Dual Turbosmart Compgates, Turbosmart Raceport BOV, 3.5" Treadstone Intercooler, 3.5" Vibrant resonator and muffler, Arp 2k Headstuds | Arp 2k Main studs | 87mm Je pistons | Eagle rods | 9.2:1 static compression, Ces 87mm cutring, Custom solid rear subframe bushings, Akg 85d diff bushings, 4 clutch 3.15 diff, , Poly engine mounts, UUC trans mounts W/ enforcers, 22RPD OBD2 Stock ECU id1700 E85 tune, 22RPD Big power Transmission swap w/ GS6-53

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    RK Tunes re-tuned my engine and 150 miles later the engine blew up again. Jordan/RK Tunes said it was Osh's fault
    Wow, I haven't been active on the 7 forums much since I've moved three times and my car sat without a trans for almost 7yrs until recently. I'd forgotten all about that mess you've had to deal with on that car! RK hasn't gotten any better...they asked for multiple pics, measurements, etc of the custom intake I had made for my X5M, we'd talked about making copies in CF vs mine originally beimg made of SS, then LONG story short they'd borrowed a friends X5M, made sure it all fit and then left him high and dry. Good to see you're still around after all those headaches! I damn near wanted to switch platforms (sell all 5 of our BMW's and goto Lexus or something) after the first engine swap in the GF's 535xiT (which is gonna need another due to a spun bearing) so seeing you sticking around still makes me see that it could be worse! I hope things work out better this time around and you can start enjoying all that work and money you've put into it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnrulyGrace View Post
    So stoked to see how it turns out!

    We are have a couple pieces for the 540, but mainly focusing on the S38 stuff right now. I’m re-sleeving a S62 right now and building it for boost. Hopefully Zack will want to work his magic on my car once yours is finished.
    Who's sleeving the S62? I had to have my M62 in my 98 740iL rebuilt after the PO botched a head gasket job, fortunately at the time I had a warranty on the car and a shop called www.bavengine.com (almost 10yrs ago and they're under new ownership now so I've heard they outsource vs in-house) did the entire rebuild which they claim to have sleeved the block, ported the heads, reground cams, etc. LONG story short I bought an all but useless Jaguar XJR supercharger kit that was supposed to be modified to work on an M62, which it doesn't, so this thread is interesting in that I've always wanted to turbo this car anyways.
    650hp 10 X5///M5
    PERFORMANCE:JB4 w/ meth, stage 2 tune, wrapped downpipes, custom intake
    INTERIOR:AVIN 10.25" screen, Blackvue 550 dashcam, 7" tablet for JB4 logging
    EXTERIOR:Niche staggered 20's or AC Forged staggered 22's, H&R 2" suspension, LED AE, CF front splitter
    325hp 98 BMW 740iL6
    PERFORMANCE:///M5 6spd swap, iron sleeves, L/W Teflon coated & silicone impregnated pistons, Sealed Power rings, 3 angle valvejob, P&P head, perf cams, electric fan, CF intake tube w/aluminium heatshield/wrapped MAF tubing, Magnaflow 14816'd, Eaton M112 in-work
    INTERIOR:Android Dynavin, hardwired V1 above rearview, 12" RE Audio DVC sub, MTX 81000D monoblock, CF silver trim, 5% tint
    EXTERIOR:///MPar staggered 19's, H&R Stage 2/Bilstein HD, custom notched bumper, Shadowline trim, 750iL brakes w/ Axxis pads
    190hp 97 328ci
    PERFORMANCE:Single mass flywheel, ///M3 clutch
    EXTERIOR:Z4///M staggered 18's, rolled fenders, tinted markers

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