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    S52 cams (sorta)

    I got new cams so I am selling the two out of my car. The intake cam is an S52 and the exhaust cam is an M50 non vanos intake cam. The non vanos cam has the exact same duration and lift profile as the factory S52 exhaust cam, but you have to time it manually as the blocks on the back of the cam will not sit in the blocks. I can show you two easy ways to set the timing on it. The factory block will still work on the intake cam. So save yourself about $200 with about 20 minutes of extra work.







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    Last edited by someguy2800; 09-05-2018 at 01:28 PM.


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    Good price, but I am genuinely interested in the procedure for setting timing without the block. Would you mind sharing?
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    There are 3 ways to do it

    The Scandinavian way to do it is to set the motor to TDC and rotate the exhaust cam till the lifter moves 1mm. This takes a dial indicator and a magnetic base. Possibly even a digital caliper would work

    The easier way is to set the angle of the cam block with an angle finder against the top of the head with one of these

    https://www.homedepot.com/p/General-...FUezTwodxfkGwA

    You can see in this picture the approximate angle the cam needs to be at. I have is saved on my computer but I will send the exact angle that is needed.



    The third option is I just send the fixture I made above with it to keep. I guess I really don't need it anymore.


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    Quote Originally Posted by someguy2800 View Post
    I got new cams so I am selling the two out of my car. The intake cam is an S52 and the exhaust cam is an M50 non vanos intake cam. The non vanos cam has the exact same duration and lift profile as the factory S52 exhaust cam, but you have to time it manually as the blocks on the back of the cam will not sit in the blocks. I can show you two easy ways to set the timing on it. The factory block will still work on the intake cam. So save yourself about $200 with about 20 minutes of extra work.



    $300 shipped
    Mic, calipers and loose rod lend credibility**; I'd have probably moved the hammer out of the picture...



    ** Not that YOU need it!

    Quote Originally Posted by someguy2800 View Post
    There are 3 ways to do it

    The Scandinavian way to do it is to set the motor to TDC and rotate the exhaust cam till the lifter moves 1mm. This takes a dial indicator and a magnetic base. Possibly even a digital caliper would work

    The easier way is to set the angle of the cam block with an angle finder against the top of the head with one of these

    https://www.homedepot.com/p/General-...FUezTwodxfkGwA

    You can see in this picture the approximate angle the cam needs to be at. I have is saved on my computer but I will send the exact angle that is needed.



    The third option is I just send the fixture I made above with it to keep. I guess I really don't need it anymore.
    Seriously, did you make that fixture? I'm looking at the printing on it in an effort to find one! Three-D printed; doesn't look machined?

    If nothing else, consider this a complimentary post bump. Good luck with sale.

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    Of course I made it, it’s got my name on it! It’s 3d printed out of ultem. And the hammer at least is a brass one lol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by someguy2800 View Post
    Of course I made it, it’s got my name on it! It’s 3d printed out of ultem. And the hammer at least is a brass one lol.
    Just too cool for words
    (I only know you by your screen name__my loss, I'm sure)

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    excuse my complete lack of knowledge here, but I'm somewhat interested but have some questions.

    I don't understand how the whole cam tray/caps/lifters deal works when swapping cams, like i know that the trays are different and you need the correct trays but i didnt know if had to make the m50 cam work with the m/s52 trays when it comes to this setup or vice versa?

    I also read a thread about the m50nv cam being slightly longer and causing issues and that the fix for that was shaving the cam down 1.6mm but that's the only time I read that and I'm unsure if that's actually true.

    Like I said, not too familiar when it comes to anything engine related but was looking into s5x cam swap and came across this so I figured I would ask, thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcfilmwerks View Post
    excuse my complete lack of knowledge here, but I'm somewhat interested but have some questions.

    I don't understand how the whole cam tray/caps/lifters deal works when swapping cams, like i know that the trays are different and you need the correct trays but i didnt know if had to make the m50 cam work with the m/s52 trays when it comes to this setup or vice versa?

    I also read a thread about the m50nv cam being slightly longer and causing issues and that the fix for that was shaving the cam down 1.6mm but that's the only time I read that and I'm unsure if that's actually true.

    Like I said, not too familiar when it comes to anything engine related but was looking into s5x cam swap and came across this so I figured I would ask, thanks
    I don't remember on the cam tray clearance. I think you have to clearance OBD1 trays if using OBD2 cams, so in this case you would only have to do the intake tray since the exhaust cam is an OBD1 cam. I know I had to do it on mine some years ago but I don't remember what cams it was for. Or you can just use OBD2 trays and lifters. They interchange.

    The thread you read about the NV cam being longer was probably my build thread. This cam has been machined already to correct the chain alignment.


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    Bump $250 shipped.


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    I wish I would have seen this before I spent the coin on a full set of S52 cams,

    Bummer.

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