so here it is, i have completed the mounting of a 2002 540 m sport steering wheel into a 9/98 528. next i have to cross reference pinouts of the switches and make the appropriate wiring modifications to the harness to make sure everything works.
what i did was remove the entire wheel and steering upper column section from a junk 540 and basically switch over the bulkhead onto the 528 steering column. everything is the same size, the bulkhead on the 540 just has the carrier for the column mount slip ring.
had to drill out the ignition from the 540 (no key) and then put my ews ring and key cylinder into the 540 ignition. mount and done!
its 106 outside today so im cooling off but, when i go for the electrical side of this ill relay all appropriate info with pictures...
any questions id be happy to answer, btw, not sure how im going to work the airbag system yet, but i have a couple sound theories.
fairly simple, my car is only looking for one airbag circuit so ill only hook the first stage up and adjust resistance if necessary..
Last edited by xdougiex; 07-15-2018 at 07:34 PM.
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update, wiring to telescoping and tilt controls are all same wire codes, one stalk down.
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wiper stalk needs to be repinned to match 540 harness. one extra wire for the "s" function, unused for now, night use it as a trigger for something else.
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use 540 harness to slip ring, match all colors. as of now all buttons for radio and cruise work. i have left airbag stage 1 and 2 disconnected until i can do a few tests.
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So...
Do you wire your air bag as stage 1 and and die at high speed or do you wire it as stage 2 and go deaf at low speed.
One of the only reasons I've never done this mod, oh... And I didn't want to risk messing with the vehicles insurance
Cheers
Mat
Edit:
Can you wire both up as a Stage 3 and just send it?!
Originally Posted by hakhawkOriginally Posted by geargrinder
well my supercharged M3 doesnt have an airbag any longer so if im gonna die at high speed its gonna be in that one! haha
the 528 is my go around town, take the kid around, slowmobile comparatively. its not sure what high speed really is.
i think the stage one deployment would help in either case honestly.
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next step might turn some people off but because im using all the 540 stalks, the turn signal stalk must be opened and modified to send seperate left/right signals. as is, it sends 2 different resistances for left vs right. im getting into it right now, doesnt seem too hard to bypass and add a pin
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well ... every single function on the wheel and stalks work, except for "s" clean.
ill get back on in the next couple days and do a step by step, this was actually very easy, but you must source a lot of parts, i was lucky i got the whole upper column with wheel and harness for only 38 dollars at the pick n pull, so a swap was inevitable, just the electronics got a tad tricky at parts.
i wouldnt mind retrofitting this extra electric column to my e36, hmmm.
Last edited by xdougiex; 07-16-2018 at 02:19 AM.
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I completed this retrofit on my 9/98 540i and swapped several things over to make life easier. Get an LCM-IIIb or better and you can code it for your car and the voltage differential signal inputs will work fine. You'll have to repin some of the wires at the LCM to get it to all line up but it was better than any hack and you get the bonus of the newer LCM.
1999 S62 Powered 540i
2009 N54 335xi
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Nice job, sounds mostly very well done. Good tip on the LCM, would have been great if you'd known that ahead of time, right and just toss an updated LCM in there... LCMIII's are cheap (its the IV's that are $) so that should be simple to pull off..
Re: airbag wiring, maybe wire the unused "S" button to trigger it? That'd be fun.
2003 M3CicM6 TiAg
2002 540iT Sport Vortech S/C 6MT LSD TiAg
2008 Audi A3 2.0T DSG (the daily beater)
2014 BMW X1 xDrive28i (wifemobile)
Former:
1985 MB Euro graymarket 300SL
1995.5 Audi S6 Avant (utility/winter billetturbobattlewagen)
FUN: intel carputer w/ 8.5" touchscreen, Nardi Blackline steering wheel, retrofitted Z3 projectors, carbon lip
RUN: ActiveAutowerke stage 2 SC, SS clutch line, SS brake lines, Bilstein PSS B14 coil-overs, RDsport catback, FDM w/custom hi/lo fan, Ground Control LCAB, M motorsports strut bar, UUC swaybarbarians (stiff front, med rear), SSK, 18" SSR GT-2H (235/40/18)...
If you do that, make a stencil that says “Do Not Press This Button!!!”
Set the controls for the heart of the sun
2003 M3CicM6 TiAg
2002 540iT Sport Vortech S/C 6MT LSD TiAg
2008 Audi A3 2.0T DSG (the daily beater)
2014 BMW X1 xDrive28i (wifemobile)
Former:
1985 MB Euro graymarket 300SL
1995.5 Audi S6 Avant (utility/winter billetturbobattlewagen)
For what it's worth I wired up a single stage of the two stage bag. Do this at your own risk, I'm not an airbag detonation expert - yada yada. I decided that for me wiring up a single stage was better than having nothing at all. As I think about the process I went through with the LCM I remembered that by default the LCM-IIIb will also mess with your tail light connections but I've read enough to believe that the LCM could be coded in such a way as to eliminate the problem I faced (standard E39 LCM-IIIb is coded for CELIS I believe and as such doesn't output the correct number of signals for all the lights on either side.)
I'm sure somebody who has experience with custom coding/hacking those things could assist with making it work with standard pre-CELIS tails. I have cheap-o after market tails with with odd connections anyhow so I just made it work with some splicing and crimping.
1999 S62 Powered 540i
2009 N54 335xi
2003 530i M Sport [Black Sapphire Metallic & Sand Interior]
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In case you didn't know, the sport steering wheels were recalled for repair because their airbag deployment can injure or kill you. Has your wheel been serviced for this defect yet?
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I'll have to dig back in to NavCoder and BMW Scanner to see if I have an option for it, but a IIIa will drive CELIS tails. My '01 has a IIIa and CELIS. LCM IV from a pre-facelift X5 drives them as well. There are some other funky things I need to work out, but that's for another post.
FUN: intel carputer w/ 8.5" touchscreen, Nardi Blackline steering wheel, retrofitted Z3 projectors, carbon lip
RUN: ActiveAutowerke stage 2 SC, SS clutch line, SS brake lines, Bilstein PSS B14 coil-overs, RDsport catback, FDM w/custom hi/lo fan, Ground Control LCAB, M motorsports strut bar, UUC swaybarbarians (stiff front, med rear), SSK, 18" SSR GT-2H (235/40/18)...
Ufartunutly, swappers are hosed w/ the recalls... cant get the free airbag.
Wife and I have been procrast on the airbags but trying to finally knock them out this month... we got 3 cars each with 1-2 that qualify. PITA.
2003 M3CicM6 TiAg
2002 540iT Sport Vortech S/C 6MT LSD TiAg
2008 Audi A3 2.0T DSG (the daily beater)
2014 BMW X1 xDrive28i (wifemobile)
Former:
1985 MB Euro graymarket 300SL
1995.5 Audi S6 Avant (utility/winter billetturbobattlewagen)
They didn't swap mine, they said it was already changed. They said may be if it wasn't changed they would of done it, but since it was tied to the VIN they couldn't. Mine is out of a 03 330i.
My early 2002 production car is not eligible for the recall, for whatever reason. I’m not terribly concerned, as the failures generally came from Hondas, and in high humidity areas.
Nate J.
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Titanium Silver/Black Nappa Full 07-18-2001 E39 M5 Heritage (BZ99672). 198,000mi+. Increasing daily. Engine rebuild thread.
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Alpineweiss III/Black Merino Full 03-26-2007 E60 M5 Manual (CX08265). 157,000+. Dead starter -_-
RIP, Seabiscuit. Black Sapphire/Schwarz 03-11-2003 530iA Sport (CK39185). T-boned 03-01-2017 at 155,861mi.
Take 2 "Otto" - Toledo Blue/Sandbeige 04-25-2002 530iA Sport (CH98032). Sold 11-10-2017 at 147,743mi.
Take 3 "Manuel" - Toledo Blue/Grau 10-29-2001 530i5 Sport (CE92358). Sold 02-01-2019 at 217,600mi. I regret that. Build Log
Reliable P.O.S. - Green/gray 1995 Camry V6 LE. 270k mi. Sold for space.
Weird. My 2002 def is getting all the notifications in the mail constantly.
I am AMAZED that BMW will honor recalls for part-swapped cars. I'd think their lawyers would say "PART SWAPPING BY NON-DEALERS INVALIDATES ANY OBLIGATION OR LIABILITY ON OUR BLAH BLAH BLAH..."
2003 M3CicM6 TiAg
2002 540iT Sport Vortech S/C 6MT LSD TiAg
2008 Audi A3 2.0T DSG (the daily beater)
2014 BMW X1 xDrive28i (wifemobile)
Former:
1985 MB Euro graymarket 300SL
1995.5 Audi S6 Avant (utility/winter billetturbobattlewagen)
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