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    For memory the m5 runs the 240mm and the 850csi runs 280mm dia. If u are going centrifugal blower a HD m5 or an oem 850csi will be good. If going turbo with decent boost u would want a twin plate m5 or HD 850csi which is what I have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GazM3 View Post
    I fitted the large 280mm clutch/LW flywheel from the 850csi with custom tailings. Not a full paddle clutch and it works almost OEM like and more importantly it don’t slip at all with c/600bhp to hold. I prob could have got away with a full organic plate but I didn’t want to replace it for the 3rd time
    What are tailings? And am I reading correctly that you have an M70/M73/S70 flywheel bolted to an M60?

    My 544iT had a 280mm E31 clutch with a UUC lightweight flywheel. It was handling nowhere near the torque you're after, but FWIW it was OE-level smooth and was doing fine 58k miles after installation. During my initial build, I pursued the idea of a stock M70 flywheel (~25lb), finding conflicting evidence about whether or not it'd fit, and abandoned that idea when a good deal on a UUC piece (~15lb) fell into my lap.
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    I have the JB racing 280mm 16lb flywheel / clutch kit with spring organibg plate (Originally). Due to a few issues with the hydraulics the oringal organic plate didn’t survive. I’m pretty sure it would have been ok if I looked after it. A decision was made to upgrade the friction material and plate. It’s still sprung but has tailings (friction material) from an exeddy Nissan GT-R clutch and it’s segmented so there is patches of clutch material then blank prob 75% of the friction surface has clutch material on it. I sent it to a local clutch specialist here in Australia.

    It’s not a full puck clutch. Drivability is great, slighly more grabby than OEM, but very streetable and certanly has no problems coping with c/ 550-600bhp. It’s not quite OEM smooth so no uphill starts in 2nd, but no chatter and no nasty crash banging every hard gear change. Once I get some wider grippier tyres it still should cope well. Very happy with the outcome.

    Sorry I should have taken some pics of it but the clutch was in the day I dropped it off to mechanic. Who am I to halt progress.
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    I finally managed to break the big crank bolt loose, I did it with my 1/2 inch drive stuff and a long cheater bar on my breaker bar. I had buddies on both sides of the engine holding it in place and the crank pulley vice gripped and it broke loose, the vice grips had no problem holding the crank pulley in place either. I have both upper timing covers off, the main bolts on the front of the engine for the lower timing cover are off but I need to get an engine stand so I can pull the lower pan and upper pan off as I don't like the idea of it hanging in the air over my head relying on just a hydraulic jack. I picked up my Getrag 402g Wednesday with the shifter, with no fluid in it it does go into every gear with the same amount of force.

    Does anyone know how the RHD LW flywheels are? They seem of high quality and from what I've seen people who use them don't have issues. Theirs are designed to run the E34 M5 240mm clutch which leaves many options to choose from. I like the JB racing flywheels too but I feel like $1500 is a lot for one when the OE dual mass is $500~. I think for the time being I will run just a basic or at least organic clutch so I can enjoy the car and learn how the clutch will feel before I add on boost. I just noticed that my first gear is going to go way up in torque now too, 3.55 in my auto vs 4.22 in the 420g.

    Once I have everything together I think I may put in two electric exhausts cutouts and run the factory exhaust. Civilized when I'm trying to be quiet, and a screaming V8 when I'm showing off.
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    I’ve got a RHD (race head development) waiting to be installed in the m635csi. It’s an 8 lb flywheel but with a spring clutch so hope it don’t chatter too much.

    If u are turbo/supercharging your car the 240 will need a pretty aggressive clutch plate or better a dual plate setup. If going FI also I wouldn’t go too light on the flywheel. NA go as light as u can but with a LW flywheel it feels like I have gone with a more agressive cam and using low rpm in top gear is much less smooth. Also revs can drop too sharply and engine can stall annoyingly when decorating/ decltching to a stop. Upside is a more racy feel and more agressive revup in lower gears hence not a good idea with FI
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    [QUOTE=GazM3;30054244 engine can stall annoyingly when decorating/ decltching to a stop[/QUOTE]

    "Decelerating", perhaps? Something is wrong, then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yukon101 View Post
    I finally managed to break the big crank bolt loose, I did it with my 1/2 inch drive stuff and a long cheater bar on my breaker bar. I had buddies on both sides of the engine holding it in place and the crank pulley vice gripped and it broke loose...
    I had two M60's I was trying to pull the crank bolt off, one came off with a 1/2" pneumatic impact gun. The other wouldn't budge even with a 1" impact, heat, penetrating oil, impact again, breaker bar... nothing. I left it a friends shop over night he called me next morning "Bolts off", asked him what he did and he replied "Magic"....

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    Yes decelerating. Damn IPhone. I think the std engine tune doesn’t cope with the rate of deceleration. Sometimes goes close to stalling sometimes stalls. No problems if standalone programming I guess
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    Maybe, but I'd make extra sure there aren't intake leaks. I had a stalling like that once that I thought was because of my LWFW, but was cured with a new intake boot. Mostly it ran fine; the M6x seems moderately tolerant of intake leaks.

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    Yukon, I missed the fact that you are in Denver!

    Angry Ass Solutions is starting development on a few turbo packages for the E34 chassis - one of which, the OBDI M60, should be pretty adaptable to the E32. There is no more OEM+ way to net 550-600 crank hp.

    We can't afford (nor would it be wise) to produce a set number of kits; we'll be taking a sizable deposit for each kit to fund production. But we are excited at the prospects! Get in touch if you are interested in more details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danespann View Post
    Every E34 needs the same things in the end.

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    Sounds exciting especially in kit form with computer mapping solution sorted.
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    Holy cow have I been eventful the past month. The Audi S6 is right back into its service position due to two leaking fuel injectors literally blowing fuel out the exhaust, which has been my main source of time consumption other than work.

    I have all three timing covers and valve covers back on my M60 finally, I am now buttoning up the rest of it for it to be put back into service finally.

    I went ahead and ordered the LW flywheel from RHD in Austrailia and have started ordering some of the clutch components including the slave cylinder, clutch fork, brass pivot and a slew of other small gaskets and stuff. I would love to have the engine/trans in the car by the end of the month but knowing myself that is unfortunately not going to happen lol.
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    Just got my flywheel yesterday, it is certainly high quality. Since I have a 6spd trans the input shaft is slightly larger than the 5 I hear. So I have to run an E39 M5 clutch plate being it's for the bigger 6spd and 240mm in size than with the E34 M5 pressure plate to bolt into the flywheel.

    I getting ready to order the last of the clutch stuff and I have one question so far, do I run steel braided line directly from the master down to the slave? From what I noticed I can order the small hardline from the master that goes into a flexible line that would go into another hardline that is NLA.
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    Fresh 72k mile engine with all new seals. True E34 Manual Trans Engine Harness. 6spd Transmission Swap, Getrag 420G. RHD LW Single Mass Flywheel. E39 M5 Clutch. E39 M5 Shifter. Factory Car Phone. Factory 6CD Changer. Factory Electric Sunshade. Not So Factory Factory Electric/Heated Rear Seats. E38 Heater Valves. E43 M5 calipers/brakes

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    1996 Oldsmobile Aurora; 194k miles but with a bad paint job and dented fender resulting in a payout to buy the 740i

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    You can, but because of the line angle on the slave cylinder, a flex line by itself would have to make a tight turn there. I ran a stainless flex line, maybe 50cm, from the master to a short section of hard line (can't remember if it came from a trailing arm or previous clutch hydraulics or elsewhere), which I bent to make the angle easier for the flex line. I don't have a photo of the assembly, but you can see the hard line in one photo, and the flex line in another.

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    Holy cow the busyness never stops, right after I got the Audi all finished again another buddy is moving and needed me to get his great grandfathers 82 F150 up and running again after sitting for 15 years. I finally got that all finished up and running smoother than ever before (according to my buddy that is). Now im picking up a P71 police interceptor from a buddy in Kansas, I have a few options for it original 4.6 from the junkyard as it doesn't have an engine, my Supra 5M-GE that I got for free in good running condition, or my BMW M60. Anywho, I have my engine nearly all resealed now, all that's left is rear coolant cover and rear main then I need a water pump and the clutch then I can finally lower it into the car. Wednesday I decided to check the oil on the engine in my 740i since it's been sitting for a good 4 months which would mean any water in the oil would have separated. Well, I found no water so I pulled out a jumper pack and started it up and drove her around the block a couple times and even got it sideways without really trying (I live on a dirt road) and boy do I miss driving that car. The plan still is to put the resealed engine and trans in the car as I don't want to do the valley pan a fifth time to fix the coolant leak in the car and I want an engine with very few miles on it in there.
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    Fresh 72k mile engine with all new seals. True E34 Manual Trans Engine Harness. 6spd Transmission Swap, Getrag 420G. RHD LW Single Mass Flywheel. E39 M5 Clutch. E39 M5 Shifter. Factory Car Phone. Factory 6CD Changer. Factory Electric Sunshade. Not So Factory Factory Electric/Heated Rear Seats. E38 Heater Valves. E43 M5 calipers/brakes

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    1996 Oldsmobile Aurora; 194k miles but with a bad paint job and dented fender resulting in a payout to buy the 740i

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    Life gets in the way of automotive projects all the time. Just be resilient and go hard when the opportunity arises.
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    I have began the assembly process of the clutch pedal and have hit a road bump. Where does the pedal bolt up to, realoem shows it as going through the clutch pedal then through the brake pedal also. But the bolt is not nearly long enough to go through both. Then I couldn't get the elbow onto the master cylinder for the fluid reservoir no matter how much clamping down on it on either side. I also noticed the ASC pump is going to be a pain to work around. Thoughts?
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    ----FOR SALE-----
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    The Fun car:
    94' BMW 740i 308k miles

    Fresh 72k mile engine with all new seals. True E34 Manual Trans Engine Harness. 6spd Transmission Swap, Getrag 420G. RHD LW Single Mass Flywheel. E39 M5 Clutch. E39 M5 Shifter. Factory Car Phone. Factory 6CD Changer. Factory Electric Sunshade. Not So Factory Factory Electric/Heated Rear Seats. E38 Heater Valves. E43 M5 calipers/brakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by yukon101 View Post
    I have began the assembly process of the clutch pedal and have hit a road bump. Where does the pedal bolt up to, realoem shows it as going through the clutch pedal then through the brake pedal also. But the bolt is not nearly long enough to go through both. Then I couldn't get the elbow onto the master cylinder for the fluid reservoir no matter how much clamping down on it on either side. I also noticed the ASC pump is going to be a pain to work around. Thoughts?
    Yup. Realoem is all sorts of messed up for showing the parts correctly on the pedal assembly for the manual e34. You need to order the long bolt that goes through both the clutch and brake pedal. The clutch pedal sits outside the pedal bracket, so the bolt is supported on the "free" end by a bracket that holds the clutch switch. The bracket is under the cruise control section of Realoem. You also need the two plastic bushings and single metal sleeve that go in the pivot cylinder of the clutch pedal. For some reason these parts are grayed out on realoem for the e34 540. Not sure why. All the parts you need are still available from BMW except the metal sleeve is NLA.

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    Glad to hear I wasn't a moron lol. I have both plastic bushings (factory MINI parts lol) and I managed to get ahold of a new metal sleeve on eBay. Kind of unfortunate that I have to order two more parts before I can continue building but SHOULDNT be more than $40 (dont want to run a clutch switch yet as I am never on the highway) but this is a BMW after all lol.
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    Fresh 72k mile engine with all new seals. True E34 Manual Trans Engine Harness. 6spd Transmission Swap, Getrag 420G. RHD LW Single Mass Flywheel. E39 M5 Clutch. E39 M5 Shifter. Factory Car Phone. Factory 6CD Changer. Factory Electric Sunshade. Not So Factory Factory Electric/Heated Rear Seats. E38 Heater Valves. E43 M5 calipers/brakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by yukon101 View Post
    Now im picking up a P71 police interceptor from a buddy in Kansas,

    I've owned a few P71s. Fun cars, I've enjoyed having them around as a 2nd, 3rd car.

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    I drove a P71 for work and was not impressed by the space inefficiency of the engine bay and cabin - there's more room between the radiator and the engine than for the rear passengers' legs - the terrible seats, the mileage, or the slushbox. Drove and rode ok and looked good, but that experience crossed the P71 off my dream garage list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by e30luv318i View Post
    I have an e32 740i manual swap it’s alot of fun. Everything bolts right in from an e34. pedal box, shift selectors, ect. You need a custom front half of the drive shaft, in my car I used a 5spd from an m60b30 I have my front drive shaft extended and flanged with the proper flange for the trans. I also ran a 3.15 diff vs the 2.93/92? Original gears of the 740i. I did not build my car as a “race car” But I can easily reach speeds of 150+ , the 740i is almost the exact weight of an e34 540 once the million pound auto is removed. You will also need to byplass the trans cooler in the back of the motor I just used a piece of hose and looped it. If you have anymore questions feel free to PM or I’ll answer here.
    ** slight correction: 1995 540i auto=3693 lbs and 1995 740i auto= 4143 lbs......I am selling my Vortech V2 Ti based CF custom kit and can have it tuned by 22RPD Tuning in Washington (state). I made 525 hp at the wheels on 8-9 psi and also 614 rwhp on another dyno. It is 8 ribbed. Kit has under 800 miles on it as I decided to go big with a custom bucket list turbo.
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    Does anyone have the part number for the actual clutch pedal bolt and the bracket to go along with it? Realoem doesn't have the correct listing and neither does the dealer lol.
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    Yukon, going back on your previous posts what are your specific goals for the 740i project? I mean will it be a week-end barn burner? A 1/4 mile monster or highway cruiser? I could be wrong but to me it seems a c/f kit is 1) less expensive and less complex than a turbo system done right. I like your 6 speed idea. I would pm Zack at 22RPD Tuning regarding the clutch pedal bolt. He is an engineer and might be of some help. He has my 540i/6 right now to fabricate a turbo system, and he also has my s/c system.
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    I have some unfortunate/fortunate news lol.

    I have become extremely frustrated with management at my current place of work and so I have decided to drop my two weeks. With this, I am going to my old job part time and have opted to start school for my dream job as an airplane mechanic. With this news, I will have to delay forced induction on my car so I can save every penny I can to pay for school. However, I will still complete the 6spd swap. I will not be selling my E32 either, I would much prefer to sell my E46 if that has to happen.

    In other news, I found the correct bolt for the pedals and have ordered it. The engine is nearly complete, I'm waiting for my new water pump to be delivered. The hydraulics are mounted into the car. It is finally nearing time for me to begin the swap.
    New Daily:
    2011 Audi A6 Avant 3.0T prestige. 1 of 368

    ----FOR SALE-----
    04 BMW 325xi 143k


    The Fun car:
    94' BMW 740i 308k miles

    Fresh 72k mile engine with all new seals. True E34 Manual Trans Engine Harness. 6spd Transmission Swap, Getrag 420G. RHD LW Single Mass Flywheel. E39 M5 Clutch. E39 M5 Shifter. Factory Car Phone. Factory 6CD Changer. Factory Electric Sunshade. Not So Factory Factory Electric/Heated Rear Seats. E38 Heater Valves. E43 M5 calipers/brakes

    Sold:
    1996 Oldsmobile Aurora; 194k miles but with a bad paint job and dented fender resulting in a payout to buy the 740i

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