Just tried some . Seems smooth.
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From Bob the Oil Guy.
Description
STP 5W-40 EURO FS 6/1Q
Inspection Information Test Method Typical Value
Gravity, °API ASTM D287 34.83
Specific Gravity @ 60°F (15.6°C) ASTM D4052 0.8507
Viscosity @ 40°C, cSt ASTM D445 76.77
Viscosity @ 100°C, cSt ASTM D445 12.95
Viscosity Index ASTM D2270 170
Pour Point, °C (°F) ASTM D5950 -45°C (-49°F)
Cold Cranking Simulator at (°C), cP ASTM D5293 5266 (-30)
High Temperature / High Shear Vis at 150°C, cP ASTM D5481 3.7
Noack Volatility, % loss ASTM D6375 10
Color ASTM D1500 2
Zinc, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.102
Phosphorus, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.092
Calcium, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.26
Sulfur, wt. % ASTM D4951 0.19
Boron, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.007
Nitrogen, wt. % ASTM D4629 0.089
Pumping Viscosity at (°C), cP ASTM D4684 28,400 (-35)
TBN, mgKOH/g ASTM D2896 9.8
Claims Information
API SN Approved
API SM Meets Requirements
API SH, SG, SF, SE, SD, SC Meets Requirements
ACEA A3/B3 and A3/B4 Meets Requirements
MB p229.3 / p229.5 Meets Requirements
PSA B71 2296 Meets Requirements
BMW LL-01 Meets Requirements
VW 501 01 / 502 00 / 505 00 Meets Requirements
OPEL GM-LL-B-025 Meets Requirements
Renault 0710 / 0700 Meets Requirements
Porsche A40 Meets Requirements
BMW Longlife-01 (BMW LL-01)Special BMW approval for fully synthetic long-life oil. Product meets ACEA A3/B3 and API: SJ/CD EC-II. Usually required for BMWs built after MY 2002. Can also be used where a BMW Longlife-98 oil is recommended.
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Yes, only oil I use where 0w-40 is called for,
so I use it in any/all vehicles I myself or my family owns.
(only EUROPEAN FORMULA as pictured!!)
That 0w40 Castrol looks tempting. May use it next.
Im getting Vanos tapping on startup if it sits for a few days . I don't remember getting this much chatter on start when I was on Mobil 0-40 .. It still sounds pretty smooth once its started but the startup rattle got worse [opinion].
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I just swapped to T6 5w-40...seems fine for me. And with rebates just paid $14/gallon...
https://slickdeals.net/f/11489607-am...pon-and-rebate
^ Can't go wrong with Rotella T6
I think I'll be switching to the Castrol 0w-40 as that's what I've been using in the E70 and would rather just keep one type of oil around.
How would you possibly know, "seems good"? Oil takes tens of thousands of miles for a problem to develop, unless there isn't any then it lets you know within an hour.
This is the E36 forum, so you can use ACEA A1/B1 and be pretty sure that your engine will not explode before the next oil change. If you can find an ACEA A3/B3, or better, then you are golden. Keep in mind, you're running a cast iron block, so the oil is not that big of a deal. They have been using cast iron engine blocks for 100 years, and the oil has not been an issue. I'm not suggesting you revert to Olive Oil and Balsamic Vinegar to lubricate your engine, but the oil specifications when the engine was new are surely sufficient today, even though motor oil has changed dramatically in the past 20 years. Oil is better today, but any API Service Grade higher than SF should be fine.
^^my 'sounds fine' was meaning no lifter tick on initial startup or after hard runs (autox).
Totally agree on your otherpoints. I just know a M1 5-40 is going to tick like a bizich...
Yeah I have some lifter tick with LiquiMoli
Ummm... We can all agree 'seems good' is a subjective statement. Take it for what you will .
Oh and thanks for all the information . Go get a coffee
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A3/B4 is the current ACEA specification for our vehicles, with the specific wording being, "Stable, stay-in-grade Engine Oil intended for use in Passenger Car & Light Duty Van Gasoline & DI Diesel Engines, but also suitable for applications described under A3/B3," "Stable, stay-in-grade Engine Oil intended for use in Passenger Car & Light Duty Van Gasoline & Diesel Engines and/or for extended drain intervals where specified by the engine manufacturer, and/or for year-round use of Low Viscosity Oils, and/or for severe operating conditions as defined by the Engine Manufacturer."
A1/B1 is an outdated product that is NOT suitable for an E36; note the mention of "Low viscosity" in the ACEA wording, "Stable, stay-in-grade oil intended for use at extended drain intervals in gasoline engines and car & light van diesel engines specifically designed to be capable of using low friction low viscosity oils."
A5/B5 is simply a newer variation on this.
If you are into reading product data-sheets, what all this means is you should be looking at oils (potentially) in an xW-30 grade or thicker, with a HTHS value of >3.5 and a TBN of 9 or more. You're more likely to see this on xW-40 grades, most -30 oils are ILSAC-rated oils designed for fuel economy, not for European vehicles. So if you want to use something with a -30 weight, make sure if carries the BMW LL-01 certification.
Using LL-04 oils is acceptable in an E36 provided you aren't doing long drain intervals, and let's face it, only the later production vehicles bumped up to 9,320 miles. The earlier ones were 7,500 miles.
Lastly, if you can get an oil that meets the requirements outlined above at a good price, buy it.
Thanks for the explanation, that's why I included the datasheet in the first post
I change at 5k in all my cars. The reason I took a chance is I'd rather save $$ on oil in my E36. I have a secret project so I'm not 'terribly' concerned about this shortblock. I'm not going to abuse it but it's not a Liquid Moly /etc car .
Be that as it may, this oil was very inexpensive compared to my Mobil 0-40 I've run the last 4 years of ownership of my E36. Nuf said. Hope this helps someone.
Getting a beer.. IPA time .
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