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Thread: Karies E36 Widebooty Turbo Build

  1. #26
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    Put some brembos on the damn thing if used for autox/track/twisties. Took my car out for the first time around some twisties and hit 100 before a quick sweeping left turn. Didn't think I was going to make it lol.

    96 328is turbo
    98 Hellrot M3/4/5

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    A fancy BBK would not have slowed you any quicker that stock brakes in good condition on that one turn. Might have felt better though. The BBK advantage is after multiple long hard braking in rapid succession.

    Many racers just use good rotors, good fluid, good lines, and good pads on stock brakes. Some also add ducting.

    Last year, I installed Stoptech ST40 front and rear. I had always wanted a BBK and got them at great prices. But in the driving I do, they don’t stop any better than the stock M3 brakes did.

    If you want to feel great bite, buy autocross pads like Carbotech AX6, Hawk HP Plus, G Force R6. They will squeak and dust but feel great. They have a little more heat capacity than stock pads but are definitely not track pads (track pads dont bits well from cold but will keep performing when very hot).

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbonsalb View Post
    A fancy BBK would not have slowed you any quicker that stock brakes in good condition on that one turn. Might have felt better though. The BBK advantage is after multiple long hard braking in rapid succession.

    Many racers just use good rotors, good fluid, good lines, and good pads on stock brakes. Some also add ducting.

    Last year, I installed Stoptech ST40 front and rear. I had always wanted a BBK and got them at great prices. But in the driving I do, they don’t stop any better than the stock M3 brakes did.

    If you want to feel great bite, buy autocross pads like Carbotech AX6, Hawk HP Plus, G Force R6. They will squeak and dust but feel great. They have a little more heat capacity than stock pads but are definitely not track pads (track pads dont bits well from cold but will keep performing when very hot).
    Good info here. In the SCCA ITR days, we'd use Hawk blues, super blue brake fluid, good ducting, and some quality blank rotors with good results. Cross drilled/slotted seemed to crack or warp and wasn't worth the additional cost. Keep in mind these cars only made around 230whp on the dyno.

    My non-m turbo doesn't brake as well as my M3/4/5 but it does okay. From what I recall they have smaller calipers, rotors, and master cylinder. I guess it really depends on the type of driving. Track vs spirited. Add 450+ whp or more and things can get hairy.

    I had porsche 996 brakes for the front of my car but they wouldn't fit due to the low offset of the arc 8s. Still haven't driven a car with a BBK to this day...

    96 328is turbo
    98 Hellrot M3/4/5

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    E46 330i front brakes bolt onto E36 325 and 328 and are comparable to E36M3 brakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbonsalb View Post
    E46 330i front brakes bolt onto E36 325 and 328 and are comparable to E36M3 brakes.
    Actually, they Are bigger. Comperes to E46 m3 brakes, only 2mm less thickness. And ofc, "only" one piston in caliber.
    I have those in my Turbo Non-M e36, no recrets What so ever. Way better than stocks.
    Only litle minus, 17" rim is smallest. And Style 32 with e39 specs Fits like 2mm space

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    Diameter is a little more, thickness is a little less than E36M3 brakes, which is why I wrote that they are comparable. I don’t know about piston size or brake pad size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbonsalb View Post
    E46 330i front brakes bolt onto E36 325 and 328 and are comparable to E36M3 brakes.
    that is my current setup. zimmerman rotors with just street pads, need to switch over to some hawk's once its fully sorted out.

    95 318is - m52 powered, 97 328is - M-package, ​01 540iT/6speed


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    got some work done this weekend. i was able to get the car on the ground, wrap the downpipe, extend coil harness, mount the bumper and align it with new brackets and slides, painted the foglight covers and blacked out the new grills.

    later found out my oem plastic valve cover is crack by the turbo. i've sourced out a OBD1 cover and coils.





    95 318is - m52 powered, 97 328is - M-package, ​01 540iT/6speed


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    small update,

    figured out the massive oil leak it was coming from the oil filter housing rear Orings, powder coated the turbo housing and new valve cover, installed -10 bulkheads for a catch can, retorqued the head while the cover was off, install a RD front strut bar also got that powder coated, had to raise the rear of the hood to clear the fittings on the valve cover and help cooling also.

    yes thats a wheel lug threaded and sealed in the valve cover. lol







    95 318is - m52 powered, 97 328is - M-package, ​01 540iT/6speed


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