Hartge h2 = hartge 6.0 ?

[H2Batmobile]

Hi , Any HARTGE 850 V12 people out there ?
Has anyone got any good info on H2 Hartge upgrades ? I have a car with an H2 , but cannot find out much about it and Hartge in Germany is not replying to my emails .

The Car is an 850...1992.....Left hand drive.
Was abandoned and I bought as a restoration prospect....

1.How many H2 conversions were done ?
2.are there differences between H2 and the 6.0 valve cover engines ? Or is it the same with different design covers ?

3.was the H2 always married up with 6 speed Manual ?
4. How many known Convertible 850’s exist ? And who did them ? (Mines one)
5. Did all H2 Hartge end up with suspension mods as well ? What was the package ?
6. Wondering if the car is worth restoring .....
7. How many H2 V12s are in existence ?
8. Does a H2 Register exist ? My car has zero paperwork and I playing detective to find out its history.

any info or help greatly appreciated.

Parts needed.

Replace Front nose cone /Bumper (Damaged)
Rear Bumper
Exhaust
Set of 4 appropriately Wide and Kick ass wheels.
Right side headlight
all front and rear indicator lights missing
Seats front and rear.
Speedo cluster. Console and most switches.....
Need to make Hood bows and new Convertible roof........copy a design from some kind person.

[8eights]

I have Hartge Springs/ Same as Eibach with Hartge on them, Also have hartge rear swaybar. Hartge's true V12 Horsepower has yet to be proven. Nice accessories though, I will up a pdf of there items related or you can download it from Wuffers site.

[8eights]

My PDF of Hartge is gone with my old pc, i do have these below and about 7 others but the files are too large to load on this site.

[TheShark850]

Do you happen to have some pictures of your hartge , they are always nice to look at , especially the rear

[cartoonz]

Here's a few more pics of the gold car...
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If yours is a real Hartge H2 car, there's less than 20 of them. And a convertible as well? That's probably the only one. Worth saving? Oh yeah...

[dragon850]

Very interesting design, I like it... but not as much a koenig.

[8eights]

Do you happen to have some pictures of your hartge , they are always nice to look at , especially the rear

Not sure if this is directed to me but if so, I don't own a Hartge car.

[TheShark850]

Not sure if this is directed to me but if so, I don't own a Hartge car.

H2batmobile

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Very interesting design, I like it... but not as much a koenig.

I love the Koenig built in spoiler , truly one of a kind

[H2Batmobile]

Hi 8s
Thanks for the Pics......I’m slowly finding out what I have here.
The Hartge website is still up however no response to emails and no answer when I call the German phone number.

[H2Batmobile]

Yeah , Its a Cabriolet, but I have boot found out its true origins yet......But I was told that there were two of them. No Idea where the other has vanished to.
So far all I know is it has the H2 engine.....I am bringing the car home next week so will be all over it like a Fat kid on a cupcake . Its a mystery machine.

[72tpik5]

It's pictures like these that are going to put Eva in surgery again. I already wanted to build a set of headers before I saw this picture, and that back bumper takes years off the look of the rear. IMHO, of course.

[shogun]

The Hartge website is still up however no response to emails and no answer when I call the German phone number.

Here is the phone number and email address http://www.hartge.de/kontakt.html
office time, German time:
Montag - Donnerstag 08.00 Uhr - 17.00 Uhr
Freitag 08.00 Uhr - 14.30 Uhr

[H2Batmobile]

Agree that’s a wicked ass end ........I need a rear bumper.......mines vanished.....anyone know where , how, and who can help ?

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Many Thanks , I will Call them tomorrow.

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Ah,. SHOGUN, that’s the same email and contact that is not responding.......
Perhaps I will Google translate my email to German.....and see how that goes.

[mbarrett635]

Agree that’s a wicked ass end ........I need a rear bumper.......mines vanished.....anyone know where , how, and who can help ?

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Many Thanks , I will Call them tomorrow.

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Ah,. SHOGUN, that’s the same email and contact that is not responding.......
Perhaps I will Google translate my email to German.....and see how that goes.

I hope Google translate has improved over the years. A while back (it had to be at least 5 years, maybe more) I bought something from German eBay from a seller who said he would only ship to Europe. However, I had a friend in Germany to whom it could be shipped, and he would then take care of shipping to the US. I used Google translate to send an email in German explaining this to the seller. I got back a VERY angry, somewhat profane diatribe accusing me of welshing on the deal, and a contract is a contract, yada yada yada. Quite obviously something had literally gotten lost in translation. At that point I had my friend in Germany explain the situation to the seller, and then all was well.

For the life of me however, I can't recall exactly what it was I purchased. It may have been the euro sideskirts for my old 6er, or maybe the roof rack and luggage box for the 8er . . . getting old sucks. LOL.

Mike Barrett

[H2Batmobile]

Thanks Mike
Haha, Thanks for the warning , Hopfully there are no swear words in the translation....yes well at least you can enjoy your nice toys as you age.....something about he who dies with the most BMWs wins ?

cheers Wayne

[TedBobo]

It's pictures like these that are going to put Eva in surgery again. I already wanted to build a set of headers before I saw this picture, and that back bumper takes years off the look of the rear. IMHO, of course.

Ditto!

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I am bringing the car home next week so will be all over it like a Fat kid on a cupcake.

Where's home?

[H2Batmobile]

Well home is New Zealand, but I am currently living in the UAE. Dubai. Car here .

Will do some pics once I shift it .

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No H2 850 owners popping up ?
Is it true there are only about 20 of them ?
I still don’t know much about them, what mods were done to HARTGE body’s etc ? Wider front / rear guards ?
Did they always go with 6 speed manual ? Or some Auto ?

[cartoonz]

What's the VIN #?
...and There were 17 of them, apparently.

[H2Batmobile]

How do I attach a pic of the VIN sticker on fuse box lid.......pic from my device ? Only seems to give URL option......new here, cant see how.??
I have not had a chance to look for the VIN on the body....under driver seat I believe.?

[spitfire980]

How do I attach a pic of the VIN sticker on fuse box lid.......pic from my device ? Only seems to give URL option......new here, cant see how.??
I have not had a chance to look for the VIN on the body....under driver seat I believe.?

You are in Dubai? Im in Abu Dhabi, PM your number and we can gather up with some other E31 owners
I might have some items on your list

[cartoonz]

VIN is visible at the lower left coner of the winshield, where it is permanently affixed. You could just type it...

[H2Batmobile]

Hi there , will do neighbour .

[H2Batmobile]

I’m really not certain which number it is yet.
Sticker is damaged but looks to be
CB009?8
With a date under it 10-02-92

GM 012122 03. , ???? Damage last few digits.
SA 0000000000000030
VN 0000000000 3

AM FFFFFFFFFF G

I will be able to check the windscreen number in a few days.

Does any of that make sense ?

[Torston]

I’m really not certain which number it is yet.
Sticker is damaged but looks to be
CB009?8
With a date under it 10-02-92

GM 012122 03. , ???? Damage last few digits.
SA 0000000000000030
VN 0000000000 3

AM FFFFFFFFFF G

I will be able to check the windscreen number in a few days.

Does any of that make sense ?

I don't think the euro spec's have a VIN on the lower left hand corner of the windshield. None of my three do, only the NA six speed does. Open the hood and right by the passenger side windshield wiper you will see the VIN stamped on the firewall. Almost all euro spec bmw's from that era locate the VIN there. I don't know if Hartge x'd the original VIN out and built these under a new VIN like Alpina does/did. If it is I am unsure where the new VIN would be located.


We definitely need pics of this rare and mythical beast. Lots of them!

[H2Batmobile]

Will do soon.