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    Interesting E23 on EBay....are they that rare?

    I came across this eBay listing of a nice e23 in nice color but what cought me is that they mention that only 1085 e23 745i executive edition were made with water buffalo interior. Is this information true and how can we confirm?

    Asking because I have same car, same specs, same Milage but better condition

    Link To The ad:

    https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F323035033506



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    Nice car, good color combo and low miles- It'll bring good money-

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    From what i could quickly confirm is following:

    - 735i Executive 2004 pcs
    - 745i Executive 396 pcs

    E23 745i Highlines were made just 329 pcs. Really nice looking car in the advert but that Panasonic? unit made me die little inside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikoor View Post
    From what i could quickly confirm is following:

    - 735i Executive 2004 pcs
    - 745i Executive 396 pcs

    E23 745i Highlines were made just 329 pcs. Really nice looking car in the advert but that Panasonic? unit made me die little inside.
    These are lower numbers than I expected, makes me slightly happier

    Regarding the interior I believe this car deserves Careful leatherique leather treatment before advertising it at such a price and it should definitely have the front/rear Becker units for Originality....how awesome this system works raising the audio volume automatically as the car accelerates proportionally.

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    Yes, especially when you consider total of 16031 pcs were made (745i). Executive/Highline models were sold towards end production, around 1985-86. That specific car shows 05/1985 by vin.

    745i was true marvel of engineering at introduction. Engine management was way ahead competition, in 1983 Audi 200 turbo was still using decade old K-jetronic.
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    Missing the warning triangle but the storage compartment is there. The fire extinguisher appears to have been removed. Can't see the controls for the aux heater listed on the build sheet and the OBC is not mentioned on that sheet. Intersting the cars BMW puts out when the competition has new models available. Loaded up with all the goods.

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    S209A Differential lock 25%
    S219A Sport leather steering wheel, 380 mm
    S225A Standard suspension
    S301A Alarm system
    S325A Rear spoiler
    S350A Therm. insulat. glass green
    S365A Rear window safety glass
    S403A Glass roof, electrical
    S421 2Kg fire extinguisher
    S427 Warning triangle with storage compartment
    S440A Executive option
    S459A Seat adjuster, electric, with memory
    S460A ELECTR.REAR SEAT ADJUSTMENT
    S494A Seat heating driver/passenger
    S496A Seat heating, rear
    S500A Headlight wipe/wash/Intensive cleaning
    S510A Headlight aim control
    S534A Automatic air conditioning
    S536A Auxiliary heating
    S540A Cruise control
    S979 Floor mats

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    Kieth,

    Where do you retrieve the option codes that are so precise? Rather which site do you use, I"d like to run a cple of vins but latley seem to be struggling with whats available online.

    Thanks

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    just changed from bimmerinfo which did not give me results today to bmwvin.com

    I have updated a few of the codes above as the numbers have been reused and the new description was used or the description was in German.

    My start for SA codes is Holgis' E24 site: http://www.6ercoupe.de/englisch/laufz5.html and I have asked him about a some a few years ago and others I have deduced as to what they mean. for example, he told em that 365 was the laminated rear glass so easy to use a razor blade to remove tint since the fine wire defroster is between the glass. Holler if you don't find out what you need.

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    One of the options on my 1986 745i Highline is:

    S915A - Dummy- SALAPA

    Anyone know what that is?

    Also had Headlight wipe/wash system that was removed and replaced with US Spec lights when the car was federalized. I would like to reinstall them if anyone knows of a post facelift set for sale.

    John M

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    Looks like a nice car overall, hopefully it brings a good price.

    Quote Originally Posted by nikoor View Post
    Engine management was way ahead competition, in 1983 Audi 200 turbo was still using decade old K-jetronic.

    Porsche and GM were using hotwire MAF's at this time, which I'd consider far more advanced than an AFM
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    SA915 is protective coating only on undercarriage

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    Quote Originally Posted by offroadkarter View Post
    Looks like a nice car overall, hopefully it brings a good price.




    Porsche and GM were using hotwire MAF's at this time, which I'd consider far more advanced than an AFM
    I thought turbo Porsches used AFM too in early eighties. Out of curiosity which Porsche model would you see competing with automatic executive car? I was thinking charging air pressure and knock regulation system or 4-speed electric automatic transmission.

    Being european i know very little of old or current american made cars. Actually i don’t know personally a single person who would own any recent models here. I do remember reading USA was first in 70’s with catalysators and engine management advancements followed quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMinNJ View Post
    One of the options on my 1986 745i Highline is:

    S915A - Dummy- SALAPA

    Anyone know what that is?

    Also had Headlight wipe/wash system that was removed and replaced with US Spec lights when the car was federalized. I would like to reinstall them if anyone knows of a post facelift set for sale.

    John M


    Your VIN's last seven begin with 1150xxx? Neat!



    In 05/83, when the Motronic 745i came out, GM had TBI on their Corvettes (yes, no '83 Vette I mean the late C3s and early C4)...you know, the Crossfire. TPI with MAF came out in '85 right then went back to speed density later? Their electric shift trans did not come out until the LT1 best I recall around 1992.

    Porsche had AFMs on the 944s and 911s for a LONG while.
    I make E23 parts.
    09/1983 745i (stolen spring '13 around Houston, TX Achatgruen on nutria buffalo. 8481080)
    10/1984 745i
    11/1984 745i
    11/1984 735i (10:1-265/6)
    Ford, MB, and GM round out the pack.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hit Man X View Post
    Your VIN's last seven begin with 1150xxx? Neat!



    In 05/83, when the Motronic 745i came out, GM had TBI on their Corvettes (yes, no '83 Vette I mean the late C3s and early C4)...you know, the Crossfire. TPI with MAF came out in '85 right then went back to speed density later? Their electric shift trans did not come out until the LT1 best I recall around 1992.

    Porsche had AFMs on the 944s and 911s for a LONG while.
    My 745i last seven digits 8752655. I should have said Executive. I thought Highline and Exectutive were the same.

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    Leather interior in Highline was two-toned cow hide and covered also dashboard and pillars. Here is comparison in german sales brochure: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xrrbxmp44...yccV5ngfa?dl=0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hit Man X View Post
    Your VIN's last seven begin with 1150xxx? Neat!



    In 05/83, when the Motronic 745i came out, GM had TBI on their Corvettes (yes, no '83 Vette I mean the late C3s and early C4)...you know, the Crossfire. TPI with MAF came out in '85 right then went back to speed density later? Their electric shift trans did not come out until the LT1 best I recall around 1992.

    Porsche had AFMs on the 944s and 911s for a LONG while.
    Did some reading on GM and i have to say that TPI looks like really neat system. For old Crossfire system i especially liked commonly used name cease-fire injection.

    Porsche 928 S did have LH-jetronic with MAF at 1984, but this again is with NA engine.
    Last edited by nikoor; 02-05-2018 at 07:19 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8991XJ View Post
    just changed from bimmerinfo which did not give me results today to bmwvin.com

    I have updated a few of the codes above as the numbers have been reused and the new description was used or the description was in German.

    My start for SA codes is Holgis' E24 site: http://www.6ercoupe.de/englisch/laufz5.html and I have asked him about a some a few years ago and others I have deduced as to what they mean. for example, he told em that 365 was the laminated rear glass so easy to use a razor blade to remove tint since the fine wire defroster is between the glass. Holler if you don't find out what you need.
    Thanks, very helpful-

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    And code 440 is Executive. No code 440? No Executive.
    I make E23 parts.
    09/1983 745i (stolen spring '13 around Houston, TX Achatgruen on nutria buffalo. 8481080)
    10/1984 745i
    11/1984 745i
    11/1984 735i (10:1-265/6)
    Ford, MB, and GM round out the pack.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hit Man X View Post
    And code 440 is Executive. No code 440? No Executive.
    Is guess you have etched this in stone after we decided that non-smoker option wasn't a correct name for this one. I haven't gone as far as that but since you did, I'm ok with it. I changed the above listing for the car offered (8751700) to show Executive instead of non-smoker package.

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    I found that by translating a sales brochure here, that I imported from Germany. Power recline and buffalo could have been added to a non executive car same with the dual Becker setup. Wacky stuff.
    I make E23 parts.
    09/1983 745i (stolen spring '13 around Houston, TX Achatgruen on nutria buffalo. 8481080)
    10/1984 745i
    11/1984 745i
    11/1984 735i (10:1-265/6)
    Ford, MB, and GM round out the pack.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hit Man X View Post
    I found that by translating a sales brochure here, that I imported from Germany. Power recline and buffalo could have been added to a non executive car same with the dual Becker setup. Wacky stuff.
    I am attaching the vin decode of my executive showing both option 440 and upholstery (0180). I wonder why BMW premium sound, dual Becker setup is not showing in the options!

    Car vin: 0720902

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