Part of it depends on the transmission. The rattling of an LTW flywheel with the Getrag 420g is absolutely intolerable in my experience. The same flywheel in front of a G260 was fine. I don't like the way that the LTW flywheel in the 993TT forces me to shift faster than I would prefer around town, but I really enjoy the noises in *that* car with *that* transmission.
2011 M3 Sedan
2006 GMC Sierra 2500HD LBZ
1999 323i GTS2
1995 M3 - S50B32/S6S420G/3.91
1990 325is
1989 M3 - S54B32/GS6-37BZ
Hers: 1996 Porsche 911 Turbo
Hers: 1989 325iX
I hope that one day I have enough money to buy a Porsche 911 Turbo so I can stop trying to make my 20 year old E36 perform like one. I am a bit ahead in acceleration, a bit behind in handling, and way behind in creature comfort and daily drive ability.
I'm a little confused by all the comments regarding the supercharger. There's something wrong with the charger if it is making an obnoxious noise. Anything up to 10psi on a CF charger, feels exactly like a lazy stock S52 just with more power at any given rpm. There is no sudden rush of power or overwhelming sense like a turbo setup. There is very little to give away the power difference, it just feels "analog".
I think the OP was complaining about noise from the blower at idle, which adds to the rattle from the LTW flywheel. He may need thicker trans oil like MT90, a raised idle speed in the tune, and a blower rebuild.
The 911 R is a race car. It's a GT3 RS minus the roll cage and bonkers wing. AC and stereo are options. Nobody daily drives a 911 R. Well, nobody drives them period due to their scarcity and value, which is sad.
But back to the topic, yes there are certainly a huge variety of different opinions on what level of NVH is tolerable in a road car or daily driver. It's a very personal thing. I'm happy to share my thoughts on why I don't want a lightweight flywheel in my dual-use M3, but I fully understand that there's people out there with completely different opinions who love them on the street. Likewise, there are probably people out there who wouldn't be a fan of my car's suspension or lack of much of my front brake dust shields (it's funny when you hit the brakes in the rain and briefly get nothing as the inside of the rotor dries off). I know what my personal NVH/annoyance threshold is, and I'm getting up as close as I can to it. One day in the future when the car becomes track toy and not something I drive every day I'll certainly re-evaluate that threshold.
1999 M3/2/5 - Titanium Silver - Track/Weekend Toy
I respectfully disagree. It's a road car. So is the GT3 RS, both cars are very high performers obviously and would do well on a race track. Doesn't matter if anybody daily drives it (more due to rarity and price than anything else) it's designed built and certified to meet road car regulations. It's not built to any homologation rules, nor does it have any kind of 'race car' specific items to comply with any sanctioning bodies. That said, I think I get your point in that if the car is of occasional special use, you're intention in driving it is to experience what it offers when you want to. It's not a compromise for the purpose of transportation.
My point was merely to amuse at the fact that refinement is now at a point where designers/engineers are intentionally introducing some NVH in order to appeal to the senses of many enthusiasts who are seeking it. While some others can surely do without it. Different strokes for different folks.
Last edited by propcar; 12-05-2017 at 05:53 PM.
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