Project IL

[gusdog]

That is hugely disappointing. I'm so sorry. That is such a good looking car with a great interior. Hopefully you can find somebody willing to take on that project. I absolutely would if shipping it here didn't cost as much as the car itself.

[KSEADUB]

Oh wow. Just wow.

I’ll be really curious if you can get to the bottom of a causal factor. So odd that this just decided to happen. I know you are fretting about your cleaning regimen, but to me that still seems a bit far fetched...

Want to rebuild a M62?


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[clarkitect]

Really sorry to hear that - that's more than likely caused by a lump missing from an exhaust valve on cylinder 6 - something Kouks is dealing with in another thread.

Yeah I've seen that thread. At this point I don't think it's a place I want to go, but I might reach out to him for some insight. I mean if I could throw another $500 at the car and know it'd be good for a while, it would be worth it. But I've already thrown money at this unappreciative seductress and it hasn't panned out.

That is hugely disappointing. I'm so sorry. That is such a good looking car with a great interior. Hopefully you can find somebody willing to take on that project. I absolutely would if shipping it here didn't cost as much as the car itself.

It is indeed great looking with a great interior. That was the allure. Don't be fooled by the good looks she's a nasty one!

Oh wow. Just wow.

I’ll be really curious if you can get to the bottom of a causal factor. So odd that this just decided to happen. I know you are fretting about your cleaning regimen, but to me that still seems a bit far fetched...

Want to rebuild a M62?

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Yeah it seems hard to believe that leaving all the gook in there would be any better. I think the only way to truly deal with this engine at this point is completely dismantle it and rebuild. I have way too many house projects I'd like to work on and spring is coming.

Anyone interested in a project car? Doesn't leak any oil! Available cheap. Look for a FS thread coming soon to Interesting Finds on Craigslist. Ima lick my wounds and move on.

EDIT: Further thoughts: I just went back to review Kouks's thread and I see he had zero compression in #8. I have 30 psi (in 6). I am getting at least a LITTLE pressure out of this one. I had planned on changing the oil soon because it has already blackened up from dissolving lots of sludge. Maybe I will just run some engine flush through it to see if it would loosen a stuck lifter. I mean, at this point, what more damage could I do? Worst case I wreck the engine and part it out. It's gotta be worth more in parts than as a whole at this point. I don't know, I have two of these things in my yard, neither of them really driveable, I have to do something. Although the black one runs vastly better than this one at this point.

[purplecty]

Damn bummer! Such a pretty car would be a shame to part it but it is what it is...

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[clarkitect]

damn bummer! Such a pretty car would be a shame to part it but it is what it is...

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s62?

[purplecty]

s62?

That would be awesome! A little expensive but a good candidate if you have some money to blow ha...

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[georgebest]

Really sorry for that!

[Timm]

Anything is worth a go - had a good think about your problem and the 30 psi caught my eye as well - but then I discounted it as a reading error. But, if there really is 30 psi then there is a possibility that something has stopped a valve on cylinder 6 fully closing. And the valves you can get to reasonably easy are the inlet valves which can be seen when the inlet manifold is removed.

Possibly some of the crud you washed out of the OSV travelled into the inlet manifold and then into the valve seat.

It's a hugely long shot but worth a go.

[clarkitect]

Anything is worth a go - had a good think about your problem and the 30 psi caught my eye as well - but then I discounted it as a reading error. But, if there really is 30 psi then there is a possibility that something has stopped a valve on cylinder 6 fully closing. And the valves you can get to reasonably easy are the inlet valves which can be seen when the inlet manifold is removed.

Possibly some of the crud you washed out of the OSV travelled into the inlet manifold and then into the valve seat.

It's a hugely long shot but worth a go.

You are a ray of sunshine! It defintely held 30 psi - I let the air out after both tests. Now I have some things in mind to try before I do something drastic. Thanks!

[RL740IL]

With 30 psi all may not be lost. Here is a method I learned from an old timer when we had to resurrect a frozen slant 6. Disconnect your gauge from cylinder tester , to create a stand pipe, if possible bring cylinder in question to TDC. Fill cylinder with solvent of choice. The stand pipe should be tall enough to allow the solvent to soak valves. Let soak 4 to 24 hours. Keep filling if possible. I think we used Marvel Mystery Oil, but I really do not remember, this was about 1976. My job was to check the level every hour during my shift. We spent a few days doing all 6 cylinder. Worked like magic. I have also done similar on some small engines. Hope you can get it sorted.

[clarkitect]

With 30 psi all may not be lost. Here is a method I learned from an old timer when we had to resurrect a frozen slant 6. Disconnect your gauge from cylinder tester , to create a stand pipe, if possible bring cylinder in question to TDC. Fill cylinder with solvent of choice. The stand pipe should be tall enough to allow the solvent to soak valves. Let soak 4 to 24 hours. Keep filling if possible. I think we used Marvel Mystery Oil, but I really do not remember, this was about 1976. My job was to check the level every hour during my shift. We spent a few days doing all 6 cylinder. Worked like magic. I have also done similar on some small engines. Hope you can get it sorted.

Hah! I was just doing something similar with seafoam. Will see how it goes. I’ll keep tinkering. Wish I had a tiny mirror I could fit in and look up at the valves. Putting off pulling the intake for now but that’s coming soonish.

[951Dreams]

Wish I had a tiny mirror I could fit in and look up at the valves. Putting off pulling the intake for now but that’s coming soonish.

Bore scope for your cell/computer? They can be had fairly cheap. And not a bad thing to have around.

[RL740IL]

Hah! I was just doing something similar with seafoam. Will see how it goes. I’ll keep tinkering. Wish I had a tiny mirror I could fit in and look up at the valves. Putting off pulling the intake for now but that’s coming soonish.

If you decide to go with the borescope be sure to get one with a mirror attachment that screws onto the head the slip ones tend to fall off and you will have it lost in the cylinder. You'll need one with a mirror attachment to look back up at the valves. There are some decent ones available for 30 to $50 and mirror kits usually run 10 to $20 just watch the quality of the mirrors as some are just cheap plastic. PS This flood the cylinder trick works great with stuck piston rings.

[clarkitect]

Bore scope for your cell/computer? They can be had fairly cheap. And not a bad thing to have around.

If you decide to go with the borescope be sure to get one with a mirror attachment that screws onto the head the slip ones tend to fall off and you will have it lost in the cylinder. You'll need one with a mirror attachment to look back up at the valves. There are some decent ones available for 30 to $50 and mirror kits usually run 10 to $20 just watch the quality of the mirrors as some are just cheap plastic. PS This flood the cylinder trick works great with stuck piston rings.

I will see what I can scare up on Amazon for borescope.

And two of my cylinders seem to be a little low when dry, wet, back up to normal, so I think rings. I will try this soak method if I can get number 6 back to some reasonable parameter. With the soaking method I was able to kick it up that one up to 60psi last night, but it went back down to 30. I did the seafoam into the intake and shut off overnight and will see if that makes any difference, thinking there might be something stuck on a valve. Need to wait until the wee hours of the AM to start it up though. No need to make all kinds of conspicuous smoke. Also going to throw some motor flush in and let it idle.

I don't know, basically putting off the inevitable at this point, but nothing to lose. I have turned a $1500 car and $500 in parts into a $0 car. At least I can get $500 or so for these mpars.

That would be awesome! A little expensive but a good candidate if you have some money to blow ha...

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I wonder what an S62 would cost? At least then I might swing back positive? Have not brought that up with the wife. Probably go over like a fart in church would be my guess.

[purplecty]

That would turn the car into a speedboat

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[2001E38Sport]

If ti makes you feel better, I turned a $3500 into a $0 car. I am still trying to make the engine run so I can sell it as a project car or part out. Car has good body, lots of new parts, M-Pars, but bad engine.

[clarkitect]

That would turn the car into a speedboat

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Would it be built for speed? Or comfort? You play the motorboat? Sure would be a sweet ride.

If ti makes you feel better, I turned a $3500 into a $0 car. I am still trying to make the engine run so I can sell it as a project car or part out. Car has good body, lots of new parts, M-Pars, but bad engine.

It's a real heartbreaker when this sort of stuff happens. I did the same with a $3700 shorty sport - guides went after 500 miles of ownership. Ended up knuckling down and doing the guides, and then virtually every other possible replaceable part. Made it over 30k miles before encountering more issues. I may go back to that one if I can resolve some of these issues by replacing the cats. We'll see. I am envious of these guys who buy a nice one and drive it for years with no issues.

What happened to your car?

[purplecty]

Would it be built for speed? Or comfort? You play the motorboat? Sure would be a sweet ride.



It's a real heartbreaker when this sort of stuff happens. I did the same with a $3700 shorty sport - guides went after 500 miles of ownership. Ended up knuckling down and doing the guides, and then virtually every other possible replaceable part. Made it over 30k miles before encountering more issues. I may go back to that one if I can resolve some of these issues by replacing the cats. We'll see. I am envious of these guys who buy a nice one and drive it for years with no issues.

What happened to your car?

Which car my sport?

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[clarkitect]

Which car my sport?
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Was talking to the next poster who said his car died on him. I assume yours is still up and running.

[2001E38Sport]

Would it be built for speed? Or comfort? You play the motorboat? Sure would be a sweet ride.



It's a real heartbreaker when this sort of stuff happens. I did the same with a $3700 shorty sport - guides went after 500 miles of ownership. Ended up knuckling down and doing the guides, and then virtually every other possible replaceable part. Made it over 30k miles before encountering more issues. I may go back to that one if I can resolve some of these issues by replacing the cats. We'll see. I am envious of these guys who buy a nice one and drive it for years with no issues.

What happened to your car?

It's just a case of bad luck and not listening to my conscience. I bought the car for my son. The car is a 2000 740il and it had an engine knocking noise which I thought it was a stuck hydraulic lifter and easy fix....silly me. It ended up being piston slap in cylinder No.4 with low compression (60 psi dry) and score marks in cylinder wall.

I got to enjoy the car for 1 week and 200 miles before the PCV valve failed. While replacing the PCV valve I replaced the intake manifold gaskets, throttle gasket, rebuilt the heater control valve (HCV) and replaced the HCV hoses. After putting everything back together, the engine cranked and did not start. Happens that I was using a key that had no transponder chip (I lost the chip while replacing the rubber buttons). So I used another key, and now the engine refuses to start and run. The car has being sitting in my garage while I solve the engine start/run issue. It's not economical to do any invasive work, and I'm not keeping this car so I don't want to sink any more $$$ than I need to. Hopefully I get manage to get the engine running and sell it or part out to reduce my loss.

[purplecty]

Yeah mine is still going strong...

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[Ruskii]

I just caught up on the posts... Dang it man! I am so sorry to hear about the issues

PS: I can't see any pictures with INPA screenshots

[clarkitect]

I just caught up on the posts... Dang it man! I am so sorry to hear about the issues

PS: I can't see any pictures with INPA screenshots

All the images are broken. I switched to postimages.org for photo hosting but now apparently that has been “locked by registry”. Hacked perhaps?

Anyway, how appropriate. A fitting end. Anyone interested in this car please let me know.

EDIT: I need to update the image links. Something happened an I need to change ".org" to ".cc". That'll take a little time.

[KSEADUB]

Bah. This is such a nice color and clean example!!!

I don’t think it would be too hard to swap in a new motor ehhh? I hear ya on the competing projects front though. There is NEVER enough time.

I really really hope you or someone else finds the time to fix this one up. The S62 would be a hell of an option for this guy.


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[clarkitect]

Yeah, I could swap in a new motor. But heck, this motor only had 94k miles, and I drove it all of 200 miles. I spent numerous weekends working on this thing figuring I would either be able to sell it and make at least a couple bucks, or just keep it and enjoy it. What if I spend countless more hours screwing around and fixing it just to have something else go wrong? At least I can be happy I went with the decision to not jump in and do the guides. Imagine if I had done all that extra work for this to occur? I'd be even more depressed!

It was a gamble to buy the car to begin with, I get it. But I see plenty of people who buy these who don't have them crap out right away.

At this point I am doing seafoam treatments to see if that makes a difference. Took it out last night after doing one and it made no difference. Damn, the car is a JOY to drive. Until you come to a light and have to stop and it shakes like crazy. Maddening!