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Thread: NV rods with wisecos??

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    NV rods with wisecos??

    Just curious if it'd be worth it to run a set of NV rods with a set of wisecos on them. Turbo application

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    You know or just spend the remaining 500$ and not worry about it.

    By the time you buy fresh rod bolts your only out of pocket 380$ or something for the real deal.

    people are having success with nv rods and theyll work with wisecos. And maybe theyll hold 1000whp..


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    I was just curious because I have a set of NV rods laying around

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    Quote Originally Posted by boostedbim View Post
    I was just curious because I have a set of NV rods laying around
    Well what turbo? I think this is key


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    S366. Pretty much the same setup I had last year just a bigger fuel system and a different manifold

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    Should be fine. I would recommend a set of ARP rod bolts. The stock non vanos rod bolts have a weird undercut on them.
    Last edited by someguy2800; 11-20-2017 at 02:45 PM.


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    Yeah that was my plan. And acl bearings. Was gonna go for the stock block m50 record but I don't really wanna

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    Quote Originally Posted by someguy2800 View Post
    Should be fine. I would recommend a set of ARP rod bolts. The stock non vanos rod bolts have a weird undercut on them.
    I just may have a set of these. Does anyone have measurements kicking around to determine ? These are 135 ? Or 140mm. ? From center to center ?

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    I have a set of used (once) ARP rod bolts id let go for cheap
    Shameless plug...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butters Stoch View Post
    I just may have a set of these. Does anyone have measurements kicking around to determine ? These are 135 ? Or 140mm. ? From center to center ?
    They are 135mm center to center, same as an m52, s50, or s52. This is what I have in my junk. M50 vanos are 140.

    Quote Originally Posted by rajicase View Post
    I have a set of used (once) ARP rod bolts id let go for cheap
    Shameless plug...
    M50's use a different length bolt than an m52/s52
    Last edited by someguy2800; 11-20-2017 at 06:36 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by someguy2800 View Post
    They are 135mm center to center, same as an m52, s50, or s52. This is what I have in my junk. M50 vanos are 140.



    M50's use a different length bolt than an m52/s52
    The set I have are definitely much more hefty than the M52/S52 rods I've pulled. But I believe without rechecking they are 140mm. Are the m50 vanos 140mm rods also thicker like the NV ones ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by someguy2800 View Post
    They are 135mm center to center, same as an m52, s50, or s52. This is what I have in my junk. M50 vanos are 140.



    M50's use a different length bolt than an m52/s52
    Uh, hit it with the impact???

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    As far as I knew NV rods were a bit thicker. I have a vanos m50 but was gonna beef it up a bit with NV rods I have laying around and wisecos. So do I need the crank from the NVm50 too? It thought the vanos m50 and NV m50 had the same bottom end one just had thicker rods

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    The non vanos and vanos M50 rods look identical but the vanos rods are just 5mm longer.

    Left to right M20, M50, M52, K1, Howards alluminum





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    Hmm interesting. I just always thought the NV rods were thicker from what people have said. Good to know.

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    M50NV rods are significantly heavier than K1 or Eagle. Eagle are a tiny bit heavier than K1.

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