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    2017 Mexican GP @ Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez

    I say 2017 is pretty much wrapped up now and Hamy will become the fourth driver to become a four time WDC.

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    Championship Points
    Lewis Hamilton 331
    Sebastian Vettel 265
    Valtteri Bottas 244
    Daniel Ricciardo 192
    Kimi Raikkonen 163
    Max Verstappen 123
    Sergio Perez 86
    Esteban Ocon 73
    Carlos Sainz 54
    Felipe Massa 36
    Nico Hulkenberg 34
    Lance Stroll 32
    Romain Grosjean 28
    Kevin Magnussen 15
    Stoffel Vandoorne 13
    Fernando Alonso 10
    Jolyon Palmer 8
    Pascal Wehrlein 5
    Daniil Kvyat 5
    Marcus Ericsson 0
    Antonio Giovinazzi 0
    Pierre Gasly 0
    Brendon Hartley 0

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    Mercedes 575
    Ferrari 428
    RBR 315
    Force India 159
    Williams 68
    Toro Rosso 53
    Renault 48
    Haas 43
    Mclaren 23
    Sauber 5

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    BU, add 2017 to the title please.



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    The Thug Vettel will come back

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    Quote Originally Posted by burninator View Post
    The Thug Vettel will come back



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    Seb needs to outscore Hamilton by 22 points per race average. If he wins in Mexico and Hammy finishes 6th then it's alive. Then just 2 Merc DNFs (&#129310 and 2 wins from Seb and he wins by a point. The slimmest chance, but stranger things have happened. Forza Ferrari

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    Quote Originally Posted by auaq View Post
    The Thug began digging his grave in Baku and completed it in Singapore. Enter the Legend who administered properly deserved pounding to kill the thugs spirit. The Legend will deliver the final blow in Mexico, nail the coffin and bury the demented Vettel.

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    Mercedes was gracious enough to allow the appearance of a competitive season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badmonkey View Post
    Mercedes was gracious enough to allow the appearance of a competitive season.
    It is noticeable when the mercs run the next harder tire, beat RBR, and the Ferraris battle to match pace.

    They have so much power in reserve that when it's used they can gain .5 second a lap quite effortlessly. Just look at the ease in which Lewis overtook Seb. He ran a higher engine setting, coasted past Seb, and then turned it down again to conserve the PU.

    Ferrari has a similar power setting that is available for maybe 2-4 laps a weekend. But I think they've had to tone back power in general because they are really worried about reliability. If Seb has zero chance of WDC I'm sure Ferrari will up the wick on their engines just to get a win - even if it means they'll probably suffer PU issues.

    Merc, as usual, keep doing a truly fantastic job on their cars. I was really hoping Ferrari had caught up but not quite, not quite.

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    Hamilton can finish 8th in the last 3 GP and still win the chip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badmonkey View Post
    Mercedes was gracious enough to allow the appearance of a competitive season.
    I had a coach when I was playing tennis in college that said, "If you know you can beat someone, don't beat them 6-0 and embarrass them. They will work their ass off to beat you back. If you beat them 6-4 or 6-3 they will feel like they are close and then not put in the work needed"

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    I know that there are a lot of Hamilton haters here, but give him his due. A good part of Mercedes dominance is Hamilton. Bottas is a very good driver and has not come close to Hamilton for a few races now. When it's "hammer time", there is no better hammer. Vettel is also a fantastic driver but overly aggressive and does dumb things sometimes. Next year should be more interesting if Renault can be competitive and reliable. You will have Hamilton, Vettel, Verstappen, Ricciardo, Bottas, and Alonzo all competing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgambini View Post
    I know that there are a lot of Hamilton haters here, but give him his due. A good part of Mercedes dominance is Hamilton. Bottas is a very good driver and has not come close to Hamilton for a few races now. When it's "hammer time", there is no better hammer. Vettel is also a fantastic driver but overly aggressive and does dumb things sometimes. Next year should be more interesting if Renault can be competitive and reliable. You will have Hamilton, Vettel, Verstappen, Ricciardo, Bottas, and Alonzo all competing.
    Oh Lewis is fast - no doubts there whatsoever. It's one of the reasons he's such a great yardstick for the drivers I favor. If my driver can beat Lewis I know they are doing well.

    I guess I go against the flow. I was a Prost fan and didn't like Senna and now I'm a Seb fan and don't like Lewis.

    But since we're being fair here: Lewis has thrown his toys out of the cot far more times than Seb has. On track or off. And if we're going to talk about dumb aggression then you just have to look at any race where Lewis loses positions at the start of any race.

    but yeah, I can see the "faults" in the drivers I don't support but those I do aren't whitewashed. I see them just as clearly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RidgeBack View Post
    Oh Lewis is fast - no doubts there whatsoever. It's one of the reasons he's such a great yardstick for the drivers I favor. If my driver can beat Lewis I know they are doing well.

    I guess I go against the flow. I was a Prost fan and didn't like Senna and now I'm a Seb fan and don't like Lewis.

    But since we're being fair here: Lewis has thrown his toys out of the cot far more times than Seb has. On track or off. And if we're going to talk about dumb aggression then you just have to look at any race where Lewis loses positions at the start of any race.

    but yeah, I can see the "faults" in the drivers I don't support but those I do aren't whitewashed. I see them just as clearly.
    An often overlooked fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgambini View Post
    I know that there are a lot of Hamilton haters here, but give him his due. A good part of Mercedes dominance is Hamilton. Bottas is a very good driver and has not come close to Hamilton for a few races now. When it's "hammer time", there is no better hammer. Vettel is also a fantastic driver but overly aggressive and does dumb things sometimes. Next year should be more interesting if Renault can be competitive and reliable. You will have Hamilton, Vettel, Verstappen, Ricciardo, Bottas, and Alonzo all competing.
    +44, but i think Vettel is a sh*t driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vªmp View Post
    +44, but i think Vettel is a sh*t driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burninator View Post
    An often overlooked fact.
    +5

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    Hartley and Gasly to compete for STR in all remaining 2017 races.

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    After FP1 and 2 it seems RBR has the race pace to match Merc with Ferrari languishing behind.

    RBR/Merc front row and Ferrari 2nd or 3rd row. Ferrari is going to push their PUs hard because it's make or break time. Maybe they'll get front row but they won't keep it unless they seriously risk their PUs.

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    On a side note, Bernie is telling Ferrari has been helped by the FIA, himself, Max Mosley, not by Charlie Whiting, and by Mercedes Benz on their current engine. All teams have been helped one way or another, not just Ferrari. And he also said Ross Brawn was involved in the rules making regarding engines, and took that info from Ferrari to Mercedes....
    Is he just looking to crap on Liberty Media for telling him to go eff somwhere??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yonkers320is View Post
    On a side note, Bernie is telling Ferrari has been helped by the FIA, himself, Max Mosley, not by Charlie Whiting, and by Mercedes Benz on their current engine. All teams have been helped one way or another, not just Ferrari. And he also said Ross Brawn was involved in the rules making regarding engines, and took that info from Ferrari to Mercedes....
    Is he just looking to crap on Liberty Media for telling him to go eff somwhere??
    I think there is definitely truth to his tales but he is definitely miffed at liberty and deliberately stirring the pot. He hates that F1 is going well without him.

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    Fun qualifying, Hamilton is such a sourpuss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badmonkey View Post
    Fun qualifying, Hamilton is such a sourpuss.
    Yep, and Bottas too based on his pace in the practice sessions. I don’t know if I’m happier for Vettel or more disappointed for Verstappen.
    Last edited by m3fuz; 10-28-2017 at 06:59 PM.

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    Disappointed for Verstappen, kid is legit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badmonkey View Post
    Disappointed for Verstappen, kid is legit.
    Same. He's not a flash in the pan.



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    Quote Originally Posted by badmonkey View Post
    Disappointed for Verstappen, kid is legit.
    Bummed Ricciardo is not going to be using the new experimental Renault engine till next year, only Verstappen.

    And awesome Vettel, #ForzaFerrari

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    Fingers crossed Vettel keeps Hamilton behind him after the start, the Merc always builds a brutal gap on the opening gaps.

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